My first repaint

[gray eagle]

My first repaint is VP-4 Skinny Dragons -High Viz for the KBT V3 P-3C.

You can view more info over here http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...ntinued/page18

go thru post #435 - #437. (I added more detail to the tail section.)




After completion, I wanted to add a little more detail to the top of the tail section.

[JensOle]

Looking great!

You might want to remake the US roundel to get the right dimensions on the bars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ro...f_the_USAF.svg

[gray eagle]

Looking great!

You might want to remake the US roundel to get the right dimensions on the bars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ro...f_the_USAF.svg

Thanks, I used the paint kit and they were already painted.

[mirage3]

Very well! My first repaint was of the BSMP Saab 2000 in the Etihad Regional Colours.
Can we exchange our experience via PM?
Thanks

[fsafranek]

Off to a good start.

Thanks, I used the paint kit and they were already painted.

Research, research, research.

[JensOle]

Thanks, I used the paint kit and they were already painted.

Yes, the paintkit has a us roundel which should be replaced/reworked. This error is also on most of the other P -3 repaints. Easy to fix though!

[gray eagle]

Yes, the paintkit has a us roundel which should be replaced/reworked. This error is also on most of the other P -3 repaints. Easy to fix though!

Oh well, I'm happy with it for now. I just wanted to see what I could do and how far I can go with it.

[jmbiii]

Sorry, I just noticed that I did not change the roundel on the wing when I made the paint kit. The one on the fuselage of the paint kit had been changed and is correct.

[gray eagle]

Sorry, I just noticed that I did not change the roundel on the wing when I made the paint kit. The one on the fuselage of the paint kit had been changed and is correct.

JMBiii,

Could you please send me a PM with what is corrected so I can make the changes. Thanks.

GE

Edit: or send me the corrected paint kit with info as to what was corrected.

[gray eagle]

I've done some research research research and also noticed that their stock US Navy textures do not have any wing bmps included in there texture folders, yet when you choose say
VP-5 (one of KBT's own), the wings appear when you select and fly it. Where are those wings coming from? Also, their (KBT) wings roundels do not measure up to the same as
the US Military standard of what a roundel should look like




Now both left and right start tips are touching the white bars on their respective sides.

Now hold that thought..... and look what KBT uses.....

This is KBT's VP-5 texture

[JensOle]

Thats why It might be a good investment of time to change the roundels on the textures as it will improve the accuracy compared to the real world orion schemes. Roundels are on most aircraft among the first details the eyes focus in on and getting them right is a good start for any repaint :-)

if the wing textures is not in the spesific paint folder, there is probably a shared texture folder which holds all common textures.

[jmbiii]

GE;

Jens is correct. Also check your PM. I'll upload a revised .psd file of the wing textures with a correct version of the roundel in a bit.

Joe

[fsafranek]

Thats why It might be a good investment of time to change the roundels on the textures as it will improve the accuracy compared to the real world orion schemes. Roundels are on most aircraft among the first details the eyes focus in on and getting them right is a good start for any repaint :-)

That's exactly right!

[jmbiii]

Here's the two wing .psd files for the P-3 paint kit for those who have it.
The roundels have been corrected. The roundel layer on the wing bottom can be copied and pasted on a fuselage layer wherever needed.
I did not include one in the paint kit on the fuselage as the position varies on the different (hi-viz, lo-viz, gray/white, orange/white) paint schemes.

Joe

[mirage3]

Is this P-3 For FSX? :beer: lol very amazing! You are very good!!!!

[jmbiii]

Here's a site with downloads of many templates of national markings and such for use in repainting.

http://www.simmerspaintshop.com/foru...hp?do=cat&id=3

Cheers;

Joe

[jmbiii]

Is this P-3 For FSX? :beer: lol very amazing! You are very good!!!!

Yes for FSX. see this thread for availability - http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...read-continued

I also think it's on AVsim or Flightsim recently.

[mirage3]

Uao! Then i can add this to my future fleet of my MilVA. infonavyvirtual.wix.com/home
Are you a member of FS KBT?
Can i add you to my friends list?

[gray eagle]

As you can see I fixed the wing top/bottom roundels. I did not use Joe's corrected PSD as I made the changes before the corrected PSD was released. I used Paint.net and added the correct roundel as a layer and resized it on top and bottom best I could. The sides - fuselage is a PITA as the roundels for the fuselage are applied over two different bmp files. Part of the roundel in on one and the remainder is on other bmp file. Wish I knew how to make the fix easier.

Attachment 5649

Attachment 5650

This one is a bit hard for me to fix:

Attachment 5651

[JensOle]

Good to hear!

there are no easy fix for that, only try and error to you get it right..

[jmbiii]

Use the full body file of the paint kit first to place the roundel and other features of the fuselage then select and paste the portion that fits the rear and middle part of the fuselage onto the other .bmp. I believe I had reference marks on the full body to line up on the front and back fuselage .bgl. Sort of hard for to me to explain zackley how to. I'm not conversant with paint but if it does layers, make a new one, line up the ref marks and then merge the layers.

Joe

ps: just got back from work sorry I'm a bit late answering.

Red wine with meat, right ? Then "Ripple" and hot dogs is okay ?

[gray eagle]

I have submitted a the replacement files that will correct the display of the US roundels on the upper/lower wings. Should be out soon.

Joe, I am really really trying to get my arms around what you are 'splaining to me about the fully monty repaint. I was so hoping that there was an easier way without going
thru so much minutia.

Essentially we have one roundel (Both sides of fuselage) that is split between two bmp's


Attachment 5677
Attachment 5678
As you can see The KBT guys engineered the roundel so that about 75% of it is in one section and the remainder on the other. So it is Russian roulette getting the the
two sides to dovetail together. Gotta be easier way to do this then do a complete repaint. If the correct roundel were plastered on the two halves in the first place.
Bummer......

[jankees]

trial and error, but of course here you can use the original wrong roundels to position the new one correctly

[gray eagle]

trial and error, but of course here you can use the original wrong roundels to position the new one correctly

Not sure I follow, I keep reading and re reading what you say and nothing clicks. Only thing I get from what you say is to reposition the wrong roundel
and then, layer correct one over it. But to do so, would have original roundel located in area that is not true to real plane.

I was wondering if roundel that I want to layer could be modified where both sections would align correctly with guide marking (On fuselage or roundel) to help.
That's the whole issue here with one image that is split over two bmp files.

[JensOle]

trial and error, but of course here you can use the original wrong roundels to position the new one correctly

Of course :-) But even so it will probably be a bit of trial and error to get all the pixels aligned.