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Thread: The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

  1. #11701
    Found this photo of a XBTD-2 but it is not a very good one.
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  2. #11702
    Don't usually like partial shots of aircraft. This one I knew I knew so found it fairly quickly. Like the whole aircraft shots never seen before. Always like to see the one's I've never seen. Anyway will be jetting around in the next few days so will call Open House.
    Moses thanks for the pix the only one I had found was of it under construction. Thanks for the link to the project on the aircraft.

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    Was completely thrown off course by the angle of this photo, which looks like a (very) swept-wing effort !

    Also don't think I have seen any photos of this craft with hardware being attached at those points. Fascinating !

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    Maybe breaking the forfum rules as this one did not take the air. The designer left us before he could fly this (his second) aircraft. I think a very interesting craft. Country of origin is visible in the picture.
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  5. #11705
    That Sir, is the Zuck Plane-Mobile 2.

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    That Sir, is entirely correct
    I think that registration N142DZ was allocated to the number 2.
    Kevin, keep us on our toes!

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    Okay, this is aimed at a certain Dutchman. Doubt it will cause much fuss.


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    Hi Kevin
    Is this one of several gyroplanes/gyrocopters by Mr. Arliss Riggs (USA)?

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    It might be. Do you have a model number or year or reg? (For the accounting dept.)

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    Hi Kevin
    I have an old Popular Rotorcraft Magazine with an article on the Riggs gyros. He built quite a few and also modified several (from tail to tri-gear etc.). I never found out whether he gave official Model numbers to his creations.
    I think your picture shows N3343G single-seater (the magazine is in the attcick and probably on the bottom of the pile, so I cannot check).
    N3348G is rather similar, but that is a two-seater.
    I hope I can stay on as member of the forum with this generalistic and avoiding answer.

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    I hope I can stay on as member of the forum
    Not so sure about that Walter - there will have to be a Court of Inquiry at the very least........

    Was checking out Mr Riggs' efforts on the net, and came across your other pal, Mr Eich - their machines look very similar, n'est-çe pas ?

  12. #11712
    Walter deserves a cold one. Part of the Riggs family of gyros for sure.

    For the record, this is the Gyro C of 1970, N9163.
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    Thank you Kevin.
    Will dig up the Popular Rotorcraft Magazine for the Riggs designs. He was a very productive designer/builder.
    The Eich JE-2 can indeed have been influenced by the Riggs designs. Maybe interesting to know that an example of the JE-2 was built in Holland. The photo shows the craft still without the the rotor. PH-GYR was built by Carel Verlaan (in the cockpit).
    Mike, do you per chance know whether the chairman of the Board of Enquiry is open for bribes? A PM will do
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    Walter, you going to have a new one for us?

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    Sorry for the delay!
    A neat high wing. Am pretty certain that the type did not enter mass production.
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    Go East (from where I live).
    If it helps, I donot have many details either.

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    This boxy two-seater is the KhAI-60 by the Kharkov Aviation Institute
    Herev is the pic with numbers etc.

    OH PLease
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  18. #11718
    Gunston has a reference to the 60-Iet KhAI 3-seat trainer , with forward-swept wings (?) and a 115-hp M3 motor, built to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the Institiute in 1990. Would that be it ?

    Anyway, OH, so we'll try this nicely-turned out reverse staggerer - doubtless straight back to the Netherlands !
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    Hi Mike
    Thank you for the info on the KhAI-60. You must be on the correct track. See attached 3-view of the KhAI-60, albeit with the planned Walter M332 engine. Indeed with forward swept wings. The M3 engine Bill Gunstgon mentions is a 110-115hp radial engine and in the pics I posted the top helmet can clearlty be seen. So 1+1 is 11 again! Am still trying to figure out the familiy relationship (if any) with other designs such as the A-211/ SL-39/SL-90 (Interavia/MiG MAPO), LVZ I-1 (Bulgaria).

  20. #11720
    My wee biplane originated about 100 miles from where one of our regular contributors resides...........

  21. #11721
    OK, time to put this one (and me) to bed. It's the Hoefelmann CH-1 Schatzie from Mineral Springs, Tx.

    Walter knew this one, and its subsequent identity crisis, so over to him......

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    Thank you Mike
    Viewing the tall/narrow undercariage on this one, the designers may have looked at the Spitfire/Bf-109 for ideas. (that is not a clue)
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    Europe, around 1939ish. Striped colour scheme on the fuselage could be a clue (?)

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    Final clous. Country of origin overrun in year of manufacture and using British engine.

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    Well you dragged us there screaming and kicking - it's the Medwecki M9. Perhaps if I hadn't convinced myself it was Italian......

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