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    Wonder how hard you have to land for this to happen......

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    On Sept. 26, a McDonnell Douglas DC-9-51 operated by Aeropostal landed at Puerto Ordaz, Venezuela, with enough force to crack both engine pylons at the airframe, leaving them dangling at the rear fuselage sides. None of the five crew and 125 passengers were seriously injured and all were evacuated onto the runway after the aircraft was stopped. The jet, registered YV136T, is more than 35 years old. The flight, VH 342, according to the Aviation Safety Network, had operated from Caracas and landed at Puerto Ordaz in a manner that has been described as "very hard." This is one you really have to see to believe. We expect your letters, anyway.



    A passenger told El Nacional that the impact with the runway had been hard and that afterward there was a slight burning smell in the aircraft. Passengers were reassured by the crew and aided with evacuation. The aircraft was later towed from the runway. It was a regularly scheduled domestic flight. No local weather reports were immediately available. According to El Universal of Caracas, the investigation is being initiated by the JIAAC, the civil aviation accident investigation agency of Argentina. The incident aircraft was fitted with Pratt & Whitney JT-8D-17A (HK3) engines. It was first operated commercially by Finnair from October of 1976 through March of 1984 and has since served with Alisarda, Linea Aeropostal Venezolana, and Aeropostal.
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    Can't believe the landing gear is still intact.

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    hard?

    Looks like a pretty standard Ryanair B738 landing!

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    Holy Crap! I thought I did hard landings, but that makes even my worst one look like a greaser!
    Take my love, take my land / Take me where I cannot stand, I don't care, I'm still free / You can't take the sky from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilo delta View Post
    Looks like a pretty standard Ryanair B738 landing!

    ....don't remind me! a car wreck is more gentle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilo delta View Post
    Looks like a pretty standard Ryanair B738 landing!

    Tell me about it!! Only one way to deal with Ryanair landings ........

    That Venezuelan has to be a wannabe naval aviator, it was just a practice carrier landing!
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    So suddenly finding oneself 3" shorter no longer qualifies as a serious injury?

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    I read a rumour somewhere that stated that the altimeter may have been incorrectly set by the crew and the pilot thought that the airport altitude was 25ft lower than it actually was. If that's true then he basically flew it into the ground as there would have been no flare for landing.
    Larry


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    Third World airline, 'nuff said.
    If the engine mounts failed I suspect the landing gear got overstressed as well.

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    I wonder how long that delayed their scheduled departure.

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    Obio could have done better...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuartcox View Post
    Obio could have done better...
    I've just worked on the assumption that the pilot's name was El Pantera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyG43 View Post
    I've just worked on the assumption that the pilot's name was El Pantera.
    Nah Andy...to be a proper "Panther" there needs to be smoke and much fire:icon_twi: Glad that in the real world no souls were lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilo delta View Post
    Looks like a pretty standard Ryanair B738 landing!

    Good one, I was gonna say Easyjet..
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    Not the first time for that. You whack a -9 on hard enough it sets up a standing wave that pops the ass end off- a resonance thing. Ouch though. Not a top gun moment! Watch the wave move back down to the tail...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIsbSz03WdU

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    I've always wondered if anyone had done that. The video is incredible!

    That's really interesting in that similar landings in similar airplanes had different results.

    In the pics, the tail is bent, but not broken off. The engine mounts obviously broke free. However, in the video, the tail separated, but it appears that the engine mounts remained. I suspect that the right main landing gear in the video was badly damaged and might have collapsed.

    Anyone know the results of the airplane in the video?

    I imagine both airplanes are totaled.

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    It was a company prototype on test at Edwards. Landed long, stuffed it down at a high decent rate. I think the F.E. broke a leg and the aircraft ended up as spares.
    Not quite as violent as the DHC-5 demonstrating a VERY short landing. Theres another angle from the front somewhere. Hilarious. The co-jo got the hatch opened and is planting his size 10's on the pilots head going out before the wreck even grinds to a halt. DHC actually sold a few Buffalo's because ot this
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    If I'm not mistaken it's "Plummet Airlines".

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    That Buffalo crash was at Farnborough methinks & it happened in front of the TV cameras as the BBC were televising it! Remember seeing it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dev One View Post
    That Buffalo crash was at Farnborough methinks & it happened in front of the TV cameras as the BBC were televising it! Remember seeing it!
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    Yep..It happened at the Farnborough Airshow in '84
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    Third World airline, 'nuff said.
    If the engine mounts failed I suspect the landing gear got overstressed as well.

    Roger that! with pilots like that I'll stay in the US. :salute:

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilo delta View Post
    Yep..It happened at the Farnborough Airshow in '84
    Thats it! Its one of the case studies in human factors. The CVR tapes are hilarious, the first officer making a number of terse comments while calling out alarming descent rates, and some very pithy comments before evacuating the aircraft. break break Theres no better way to snuff it than flying third world airways. I purly love watching a China Eastern driver rasslin a '47 down in a cross wind. Its only a matter of time before Richmond has room for a new subdivision!

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