Coral and dirt runway textures

**shphawk** · February 27th, 2016, 03:03

Hi Everyone.

The stock runway textures have been driving me crazy for as long as I remember. I'm not much of a painter, but I decided to give it a shot. So far, I am pleased with the results, but I'm looking for some no BS feedback.. Once I'm satisfied I will gladly upload them for everyone else. I had to increase the size of the textures to get more detail. Unfortunately, they don't look much better from the ground, but the texture would have to be 10,000 pixels squared to accomplish that. Lol. The coral needs more detail, but it's a start. Thanks for taking a look and for the feedback.

ShpHawK
Chuck

***Worthless*** · February 27th, 2016, 07:35

shphawk.....I like both, but especially the dirt field. The coral in CFS2 has always seemed too bright to me, but then I've never actually seen a coral strip. It's just that some of the color pictures seem to reflect a grayish/white tint. For all I know there may be a number of color variations at the numerous airfields around the south Pacific.

**baldy** · February 27th, 2016, 07:47

Looking good -- I'd certainly take them -- now if someone could just do a halfway decent tex for a psp ( pierced steel plate ) runway

baldy

**Captain Kurt** · February 27th, 2016, 08:25

Both are improvements, especially the dirt. I would suggest making the worn track down the center of the dirt wider, like 75%-80% of the runway but otherwise, very nice. Like Baldy said, the psp texture is the worst of all of the stock runways, but that one will be a real bear to get looking right.

**Allen** · February 27th, 2016, 15:33

Not likeing the dirt. The coral looks too ruff.

**shphawk** · February 27th, 2016, 15:50

Originally Posted by Worthless

shphawk.....I like both, but especially the dirt field. The coral in CFS2 has always seemed too bright to me, but then I've never actually seen a coral strip. It's just that some of the color pictures seem to reflect a grayish/white tint. For all I know there may be a number of color variations at the numerous airfields around the south Pacific.

Thanks Worthless. I agree that they seem very bright. It's difficult to find pics of a coral runway. When I search I found Honolulu which has a coral threshold, or able runway which looks gray. None of the pictures show enough detail. If you or anyone else has better pics, I'll see what I can do. Thanks again.

Chuck

**gaucho_59** · February 27th, 2016, 16:11

Originally Posted by shphawk

Thanks Worthless. I agree that they seem very bright. It's difficult to find pics of a coral runway. When I search I found Honolulu which has a coral threshold, or able runway which looks gray. None of the pictures show enough detail. If you or anyone else has better pics, I'll see what I can do. Thanks again.

Chuck

I know I can do it... I did it before for someone in CFS 3...

G.

**shphawk** · February 27th, 2016, 16:45

Originally Posted by baldy

Looking good -- I'd certainly take them -- now if someone could just do a halfway decent tex for a psp ( pierced steel plate ) runway

baldy

I just might give it a shot. There is plenty of pics to go from. Thanks Baldy.

Chuck

**shphawk** · February 27th, 2016, 16:51

Originally Posted by Captain Kurt

Both are improvements, especially the dirt. I would suggest making the worn track down the center of the dirt wider, like 75%-80% of the runway but otherwise, very nice. Like Baldy said, the psp texture is the worst of all of the stock runways, but that one will be a real bear to get looking right.

Thanks Capt. I appreciate the feedback. I'll see what happens. What do you guys think the absolute max texture size should be? I had to go 1024 x 1024 just to get the detail that I have. For the psp to look right, I may have to double that.

Chuck

**gaucho_59** · February 27th, 2016, 17:31

Originally Posted by shphawk

Thanks Capt. I appreciate the feedback. I'll see what happens. What do you guys think the absolute max texture size should be? I had to go 1024 x 1024 just to get the detail that I have. For the psp to look right, I may have to double that.

Chuck

Like I said... if you post the tile... I can make the texture...

to wit:

This shows the PSP superimposed on a grass background... the texture is without grass...

G.

**shphawk** · February 27th, 2016, 22:34

Originally Posted by Allen

Not likeing the dirt. The coral looks too ruff.

Hi Allen. Thanks for the feedback. It's difficult to get decent detail The runway is such a big object even with a 1024x1024 texture, I am right on the verge of everything looking pixelated. I'm still working on the coral. I will post more pics soon.

Chuck

**shphawk** · February 27th, 2016, 22:40

Originally Posted by gaucho_59

Like I said... if you post the tile... I can make the texture...

to wit:

This shows the PSP superimposed on a grass background... the texture is without grass...

G.

Sorry for taking so long to reply. Thanks to a drunk driver, I spent most of the evening without power. Here you go.

Chuck

**Allen** · February 27th, 2016, 23:18

Originally Posted by shphawk

Hi Allen. Thanks for the feedback. It's difficult to get decent detail The runway is such a big object even with a 1024x1024 texture, I am right on the verge of everything looking pixelated. I'm still working on the coral. I will post more pics soon.

Chuck

Your never going to get the ground/runway to look good at ground level. It is just too large. If you get it looking okay at ground level it will look bad at Altitude.

**shphawk** · February 27th, 2016, 23:57

Originally Posted by Allen

Your never going to get the ground/runway to look good at ground level. It is just too large. If you get it looking okay at ground level it will look bad at Altitude.

True that. I'm uploading another coral pic. I haven't softened it yet, but I added some detail. It helps, I need to work on the color. I'm attaching a pic of North Field on Tinian. It looks almost gray. After doing this, my hats off to the guys at MS for accomplishing what they did with the PSP texture being only 256x256.

**gaucho_59** · February 28th, 2016, 04:40

Originally Posted by shphawk

Sorry for taking so long to reply. Thanks to a drunk driver, I spent most of the evening without power. Here you go.

Chuck

Your attachment, I am afraid I am too dumb to kow how to download it...
can you make a zip file of it and place like you did the picture? As it is,
I cannot even see it full size... The detail in my version would still be
the same or nearly the same at 256 colors... it really does not use too many colors at all...

I am really interested in producing something nice... the stock PSP textures in the sim suck!
BTW... your coral job really looks good!

Thanks in advance...
G.

P.S.: also, please mark somehow what each of those perforated looking represent... I see a long longitudinal and 2 small horizontal...
what are they.. also.. the grey background... what does it do? I can produce a relatively, HIGHLY detailed 256 color tile...
am pretty good with PSP x8 and Photoshop...

**shphawk** · February 28th, 2016, 06:59

Originally Posted by gaucho_59

Your attachment, I am afraid I am too dumb to kow how to download it...
can you make a zip file of it and place like you did the picture? As it is,
I cannot even see it full size... The detail in my version would still be
the same or nearly the same at 256 colors... it really does not use too many colors at all...

I am really interested in producing something nice... the stock PSP textures in the sim suck!
BTW... your coral job really looks good!

Thanks in advance...
G.

P.S.: also, please mark somehow what each of those perforated looking represent... I see a long longitudinal and 2 small horizontal...
what are they.. also.. the grey background... what does it do? I can produce a relatively, HIGHLY detailed 256 color tile...
am pretty good with PSP x8 and Photoshop...

Thanks Gaucho. I will zip it and post it as soon as I am on my computer again. That might be this evening. I can't wait to see what you come up with. I'll explain everything in a text inside the zip.

ShpHawK
Chuck

***Worthless*** · February 28th, 2016, 16:28

Here you go shphawk. This is the best I could find.

**No Dice** · February 28th, 2016, 17:26

Looking great guys,

I attempted many years back and gave up, The steal mesh
will be something that is much needed.

Thumbs up to all of you helping with this project.

Dave

**shphawk** · February 29th, 2016, 00:38

Originally Posted by Worthless

Here you go shphawk. This is the best I could find.

Thanks again Worthless. The first time I saw the color, I thought people would complain if I went that dark. I think I'm going to make a couple of different versions. I actually thought that replacing some of the runways wouldn't be that hard. Then I could add a few more different textures. I'll keep posting screens. Thanks again for the photo.

Chuck

**shphawk** · February 29th, 2016, 00:39

Originally Posted by No Dice

Looking great guys,

I attempted many years back and gave up, The steal mesh
will be something that is much needed.

Thumbs up to all of you helping with this project.

Dave

Thanks Mr. No Dice.

**shphawk** · February 29th, 2016, 00:46

Originally Posted by gaucho_59

Your attachment, I am afraid I am too dumb to kow how to download it...
can you make a zip file of it and place like you did the picture? As it is,
I cannot even see it full size... The detail in my version would still be
the same or nearly the same at 256 colors... it really does not use too many colors at all...

I am really interested in producing something nice... the stock PSP textures in the sim suck!
BTW... your coral job really looks good!

Thanks in advance...
G.

P.S.: also, please mark somehow what each of those perforated looking represent... I see a long longitudinal and 2 small horizontal...
what are they.. also.. the grey background... what does it do? I can produce a relatively, HIGHLY detailed 256 color tile...
am pretty good with PSP x8 and Photoshop...

Better late than never. Here you go man. I cant wait to see. Anything else I can do, let me know.

Chuck

**gaucho_59** · February 29th, 2016, 10:17

Originally Posted by shphawk

Better late than never. Here you go man. I cant wait to see. Anything else I can do, let me know.

Chuck

here it is superimposed on the bmp you sent...

Let me know what you think... I can attach the file if you want to test it...

G.

To wit:

**shphawk** · February 29th, 2016, 12:14

Originally Posted by gaucho_59

here it is superimposed on the bmp you sent...

Let me know what you think... I can attach the file if you want to test it...

G.

To wit:

It looks great. I would love to test it and play with the alpha channel. We may need a couple variations. I'm going to try to modify a couple of the default runways to take a different texture so that we can add a few extra textures. Thanks again Gaucho. Really nice work.

Chuck

**gaucho_59** · February 29th, 2016, 12:23

Originally Posted by shphawk

It looks great. I would love to test it and play with the alpha channel. We may need a couple variations. I'm going to try to modify a couple of the default runways to take a different texture so that we can add a few extra textures. Thanks again Gaucho. Really nice work.

Chuck

No problem... will post
G.