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  1. #1

    Paul,need some advice

    Hello Paul,after my system died a few days ago,i got some new hardware.
    MB:MSI Z87-G43
    CPU:I5-4760K
    RAM:8GB CorsairVeng.9-9-9-24
    CPU Cooler:Scythe MUGEN 4
    Use my old GTX580

    Not exactly what i wanted,but it`s okay.
    Now i use these settings for DX10:
    In Steve`s Fixer:AA 4x
    In FSX:Anisotrop and AA ticked.
    In Nvidia inspector your "common" settings with 4xSGSS.

    Myx fsx.cfg:
    [Graphics]
    HIGHMEMFIX=1
    D3D10=1
    MultiSamplesPerPixel=4
    MultiSampleQuality=0
    SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED_10=1693500672
    TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=1024
    NUM_LIGHTS=7
    AIRCRAFT_SHADOWS=1
    AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1
    COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1
    LANDING_LIGHTS=0
    AC_SELF_SHADOW=1
    EFFECTS_QUALITY=2
    GROUND_SHADOWS=0
    TEXTURE_QUALITY=3
    IMAGE_QUALITY=0
    See_Self=1
    Text_Scroll=1
    [DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580.0.0]
    AntiAlias=1
    Mode=2560x1080x32
    Anisotropic=1
    [SOUND]
    AmbientUIMusicVolume=-6.000000
    SOUND_FADER1=1.000000
    SOUND_FADER2=1.000000
    SOUND_FADER3=1.000000
    SOUND_FADER4=0.500000
    AmbientUIMusic=FSX01
    PrimaryDevice={DEF00000-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
    VoiceDevice={DEF00002-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
    SOUND=1
    SOUND_QUALITY=2
    SOUND_LOD=0
    UISound=1
    AmbientUI=0
    [Display]
    ChangeTime=4.000000
    TransitionTime=4.000000
    ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
    ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64
    NonActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
    NonActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=24,33,87,64
    InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0
    InfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0
    InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255
    InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
    InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255
    InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
    InfoBrakesEnable=True
    InfoParkingBrakesEnable=True
    InfoPauseEnable=True
    InfoSlewEnable=True
    InfoStallEnable=True
    InfoOverspeedEnable=True
    BLOOM_EFFECTS=1
    SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1
    TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=40
    UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=0
    WideViewAspect=True
    [Main]
    User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter
    SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\Airplanes
    SimObjectPaths.1=SimObjects\Rotorcraft
    SimObjectPaths.2=SimObjects\GroundVehicles
    SimObjectPaths.3=SimObjects\Boats
    SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Animals
    SimObjectPaths.5=SimObjects\Misc
    SimObjectPaths.6=MyTraffic\Aircraft
    ProcSpeed=16525
    PerfBucket=7
    HideMenuNormal=0
    HideMenuFullscreen=1
    Location=760,151,1800,929,\\.\DISPLAY1
    Maximized=2
    DisablePreload=1
    [PANELS]
    IMAGE_QUALITY=1
    DEFAULT_VIEW=0
    QUICKTIPS=1
    PANEL_OPACITY=100
    PANEL_MASKING=1
    PANEL_STRETCHING=1
    UNITS_OF_MEASURE=0
    [Weather]
    WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1
    MinGustTime=10
    MaxGustTime=500
    MinGustRampSpeed=1
    MaxGustRampSpeed=200
    MinVarTime=5
    MaxVarTime=50
    MinVarRampSpeed=10
    MaxVarRampSpeed=75
    TurbulenceScale=1.000000
    WeatherServerAddress=fs2k.zone.com
    WeatherServerPort=80
    WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0
    AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1
    DynamicWeather=2
    DownloadWindsAloft=0
    DisableTurbulence=0
    CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=3
    DETAILED_CLOUDS=1
    CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=6
    THERMAL_VISUALS=0
    [AccelerationPack]
    ControlsFirstRun=0
    HomePageFirstRun=0
    [CONTROLS]
    Controls_Default=Standard
    Controls_Current=Standard
    KBDAIL=64
    KBDELEV=64
    KBDRUD=64
    [TextInfo.1]
    Latitude=1,1
    Longitude=1,2
    Altitude=1,3
    Heading=1,4
    AirSpeed=1,5
    WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
    [TextInfo.2]
    FrameRate=1,1
    LockedFrameRate=1,2
    GForce=1,3
    FuelPercentage=1,4
    [TextInfo.3]
    Latitude=1,1
    Longitude=1,2
    Altitude=1,3
    Heading=1,4
    AirSpeed=1,5
    WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
    FrameRate=2,1
    LockedFrameRate=2,2
    GForce=2,3
    FuelPercentage=2,4
    [SlewTextInfo.1]
    Latitude=1,1
    Longitude=1,2
    Altitude=1,3
    Heading=1,4
    AirSpeed=1,5
    [SlewTextInfo.2]
    FrameRate=1,1
    LockedFrameRate=1,2
    [SlewTextInfo.3]
    Latitude=1,1
    Longitude=1,2
    Altitude=1,3
    Heading=1,4
    AirSpeed=1,5
    FrameRate=2,1
    LockedFrameRate=2,2
    [DynamicHeadMovement]
    LonAccelOnHeadLon=-0.020000
    LonAccelOnHeadPitch=-0.010000
    RollAccelOnHeadLat=0.010000
    YawAccelOnHeadLat=-0.100000
    RollAccelOnHeadRoll=0.100000
    MaxHeadAngle=5.000000
    MaxHeadOffset=0.300000
    HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000
    [VirtualCopilot]
    VirtualCopilotActive=0
    [USERINTERFACE]
    PageID=1
    OpenATCOnCreate=0
    SHOW_MISSION_CAPTIONS=0
    PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=0
    PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1
    SITUATION=FLIGHTS\OTHER\FLTSIM
    Map_Orientation=2
    ShowAllACPaintSchemes=1
    SelectAircraftManufacturer=Alle
    SelectAircraftPublisher=Alle
    SelectAircraftType=Alle
    [ATC]
    ShowATCText=1
    COMM_MSG_NONE_COLOR=FFFFFFFF
    COMM_MSG_ATC_USER_COLOR=FFB6FFB6
    COMM_MSG_USER_ATC_COLOR=FFFFD21B
    COMM_MSG_ATC_AI_COLOR=FF00FF00
    COMM_MSG_AI_ATC_COLOR=FFFF7840
    AutoOpenAirTrafficWindow=1
    UsePilotVoice=1
    PilotVoice=0
    [PointOfInterestSystem]
    CycleSetting=0
    [SCENERY]
    LENSFLARE=0
    DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1
    IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=5
    [TrafficManager]
    AirlineDensity=20
    GADensity=20
    FreewayDensity=0
    ShipsAndFerriesDensity=100
    LeisureBoatsDensity=0
    IFROnly=0
    AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=1
    [TERRAIN]
    LOD_RADIUS=4.500000
    MESH_COMPLEXITY=100
    MESH_RESOLUTION=25
    TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=28
    AUTOGEN_DENSITY=5
    DETAIL_TEXTURE=1
    WATER_EFFECTS=5
    [AContain]
    ShowLabels=1
    ShowUserLabel=0
    ShowLabelManufacturer=1
    ShowLabelModel=1
    ShowLabelTailNumber=0
    ShowLabelDistance=1
    ShowLabelAltitude=1
    ShowLabelAirline=0
    ShowLabelAirlineAndFlightNumber=0
    ShowLabelFlightPlan=0
    ShowLabelContainerId=0
    ShowLabelAirspeed=0
    ShowLabelHeading=0
    LabelDelay=1000
    LabelColor=FFFF0000
    [INTERNATIONAL]
    ASLAT=2
    ASLON=1
    MEASURE=0
    [REALISM]
    PFactor=0.000000
    Torque=0.000000
    GyroEffect=0.000000
    CrashTolerance=0.000000
    General=0.000000
    UnlimitedFuel=True
    AllowEngineDamage=False
    TrueAirspeed=False
    AutoCoord=False
    RealMixture=True
    StressDamage=False
    GEffect=False
    ManualLights=False
    GyroDrift=False
    CrashWithDyn=False
    CrashDetection=False
    AutoTrim=False
    [SIM]
    SYSCLOCK=1
    [STARTUP]
    DEMO=0
    SHOW_OPENING_SCREEN=1
    STARTUP_DEMO=
    LoadWindow=1
    [FACILITIES]
    COUNTRY=
    STATE=
    CITY=
    GTL_BUTTON=1232
    [Misc]
    Com_Rate=7
    [BUFFERPOOLS]
    UsePools=0
    [JOBSCHEDULER]

    AffinityMask=14
    [MULTIPLAYER]
    condAccoutPassword=0

    Do you think,this is okay?
    And where can i find some help for oc?
    Thank you
    Mike




  2. #2
    Here's your fsx.cfg, Mike:

    This will change as you get into the overclock. You might try your memory at C8 timings for a bit more speed.

    Looks ok. For 4760 oc info - look for the MSI's guide for overclocking that proc with their bios. I use ASUS, and MSI is sufficiently different as to be confusing. It's one thing to do it in the comfort of your workshop with the pc in front of you, but it's a whole other thing to do it blind and without manual!
    There are also lots of oc websites for more info - it will take a day or two to find one you like, and then just tag along. It's not too difficult once you get some confidence - ok!

    All the Best,

    pj



    i7-4790K@4.8 gig, using EK-Supreme HF waterblock, LG 43" 4K; MSI 2060; 32 gig G.Skill Trident GTX @2400; Win 10-64; Homebuilt cockpit; MD-80-style throttle quadrant; TrackIR5

  3. #3
    Paul,i thank you very much!
    Mike




  4. #4
    Paul,your corrected fsx.cfg is working very fine,thanks again.
    Another question i have is----with my new MB and CPU am i still good to go with the 580GTX,or could the card become a bottleneck?
    Mike




  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by big-mike View Post
    Paul,your corrected fsx.cfg is working very fine,thanks again.
    Another question i have is----with my new MB and CPU am i still good to go with the 580GTX,or could the card become a bottleneck?
    Mike
    Well, Mike - if you overclock the 4760 to 4.5 you can UsePools=0: at 4.6 you can UsePools=0: at 4.7 you can UsePools=0, but at 4.8 - you will need to experiment with UsePools=1 and a small RejectThreshold, and as you move higher you will need to increase the Reject Threshold size again.

    My feeling is that, at the point where you need to go to UsePools=1 - that's the time for the 780 - ok!

    All the Best,

    pj



    i7-4790K@4.8 gig, using EK-Supreme HF waterblock, LG 43" 4K; MSI 2060; 32 gig G.Skill Trident GTX @2400; Win 10-64; Homebuilt cockpit; MD-80-style throttle quadrant; TrackIR5

  6. #6
    Thank you,Paul.
    Mike




  7. #7
    Paul,my CPU is now at 4,4gHz and that`s okay for me.
    Is it necessary to let FSX rebuild a fresh fsx.cfg after oc?
    Mike




  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by big-mike View Post
    Paul,my CPU is now at 4,4gHz and that`s okay for me.
    Is it necessary to let FSX rebuild a fresh fsx.cfg after oc?
    Mike
    Great! Nope: for a 4.4 gig proc - UsePools=0, (because of the 580's superb performance): TBM should equal 80:fps set to 30, and FFTF=0.12.

    Then - play with:-

    Cloud coverage=4, Density=7:Autogen 3, but try 4: water=4: Image Complexity=4. There are other notes in your cfg, too, so check them and "play" as you like.

    This should still give good performance, Mike, and you can play with these up or down, but always remembering that when all added together - they will reduce your fps, and can still cause stuttering - and this may not be apparent until you get near a large city or scenery with a complex aircraft and some bad weather.. The best thing is to make a list of what you can do without (like boats) and leave it at zero - ok! What you're looking for is a fairly constant 30 fps regardless of area or aircraft. This is not always possible - even at 5 and with a 780 I still have to "moderate" my own expectations.
    Others have to as well.

    All the Best,

    pj



    i7-4790K@4.8 gig, using EK-Supreme HF waterblock, LG 43" 4K; MSI 2060; 32 gig G.Skill Trident GTX @2400; Win 10-64; Homebuilt cockpit; MD-80-style throttle quadrant; TrackIR5

  9. #9
    Thank you,Paul----appreciate the time,you`ve spent with me.
    I`m sure, i will find my sweet spot.
    Mike




  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul J View Post
    The best thing is to make a list of what you can do without (like boats)
    One of the first things I always do with a new FSX install is to remove the dreaded "seagulls from hell" (ie. Monster shadowed framerate killers):

    User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter
    SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\Airplanes
    SimObjectPaths.1=SimObjects\Rotorcraft
    SimObjectPaths.2=SimObjects\GroundVehicles
    SimObjectPaths.3=SimObjects\Boats
    SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Animals
    SimObjectPaths.5=SimObjects\Misc
    SimObjectPaths.6=MyTraffic\Aircraft

    Becomes:

    User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter
    SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\Airplanes
    SimObjectPaths.1=SimObjects\Rotorcraft
    SimObjectPaths.2=SimObjects\GroundVehicles
    SimObjectPaths.3=SimObjects\Boats
    //SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Animals
    SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Misc
    SimObjectPaths.5=MyTraffic\Aircraft

    This also removes dolphins, whales etc. but I don't think Greenpeace would object too much - it's only a flight sim!

    Adam.
    XP11.50 | MSFS 2020
    Intel Core i7 2600K @ 3.40-4.69GHz | 8GB DDR3 | nVidia RTX2060 8GB | Win10 2004 64-bit 24Gb RAM



  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Adamski_NZ View Post
    One of the first things I always do with a new FSX install is to remove the dreaded "seagulls from hell" (ie. Monster shadowed framerate killers):

    User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter
    SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\Airplanes
    SimObjectPaths.1=SimObjects\Rotorcraft
    SimObjectPaths.2=SimObjects\GroundVehicles
    SimObjectPaths.3=SimObjects\Boats
    //SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Animals
    SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Misc
    SimObjectPaths.5=MyTraffic\Aircraft

    This also removes dolphins, whales etc. but I don't think Greenpeace would object too much - it's only a flight sim!

    Adam.
    Hmmm.. Never thought of that Adam. Interesting what others do. Taking out the seagulls and birdie-things will add a frame or two to the Orbx scenery's as each airfield has millions of the blasted things.

    Cheers,

    pj



    i7-4790K@4.8 gig, using EK-Supreme HF waterblock, LG 43" 4K; MSI 2060; 32 gig G.Skill Trident GTX @2400; Win 10-64; Homebuilt cockpit; MD-80-style throttle quadrant; TrackIR5

  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul J View Post
    Hmmm.. Never thought of that Adam. Interesting what others do. Taking out the seagulls and birdie-things will add a frame or two to the Orbx scenery's as each airfield has millions of the blasted things.
    I'm rather proud of this tweak ... I actually worked it out myself! Of all the hundreds of FSX tweaks out there ... to think one of them is all mine LOL!

    On my systems (usually pretty low-end) those blasted things used to *crucify* my framerates.

    Adam.
    XP11.50 | MSFS 2020
    Intel Core i7 2600K @ 3.40-4.69GHz | 8GB DDR3 | nVidia RTX2060 8GB | Win10 2004 64-bit 24Gb RAM



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