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  1. #22976
    I didn't know that Texas is a part of France now.

  2. #22977
    The wee laddie clearly is having a difficult day!

  3. #22978
    I wouldn't mind a little Parisian influence in these parts.

  4. #22979
    But you've got Paris, Texas, in Lamar County. Is it not influential enough? It even gave its name to a film!

  5. #22980
    Great film, too, Ry Cooder soundtrack. Sorry, fellows, distracted again.

    Having a battle with a mail order company. The Boss's phone blew up,and I ordered a replacement for 24 hr delivery. Package arrived, obviously not a phone - it was a steam cleaner.
    Hours of phoning later, they agree to uplift the item. Forms to fill in - why was I disappointed with the phone ? 'Stuck the nozzle in my ear but still couldn't get a signal'

    24 hours later, still no sign of a phone on its way. Grrrrr.....

    Carry on, chaps, please, while I wait for sanity to re-emerge...I am still wondering why in my local pub, I can have a meal inside, but no alcohol. Outside, I can have a drink, but no meal. Aaaaaaargh

  6. #22981
    I won't ask if, when you applied the nozzle to one ear, the steam came out the other ..... !

    I'll take it that the initial reference to Texas was a product of mail order frustration, rather than any antipathy to France, and just keep calm and carry on.

    Here's something of an oddity that was not, by any measure, a success. It didn't last long - as, I suspect, will prove to be the case here.

  7. #22982
    Ugly bug is the Pickering-Pearson KP.2.

  8. #22983
    Exactly. A flying machine without a fin or rudder. It did have ailerons, but not as we know them, Jim. Thus it was hardly surprising that it was not a runaway success.
    This time it really is over to Texas!

  9. #22984
    Staying with the pusher theme.

  10. #22985
    This is the second version. One source reports that the engine was an Argus.

    From a well-known designer.

  11. #22986
    Flown in 1912. Three years later started a company that lasted until the early 1980's.

  12. #22987
    Alessandro Marchetti built the La Chimera. Later of Savoia-Marchetti.

    Open board then.

  13. #22988
    Since no one is jumping in. Just found this VSTOL don't know if it flew can't seem to find more about it. circa 1962
    This pix was taken in 1993.

    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails WOTMay18.jpg  
    Last edited by cthornburg; May 19th, 2021 at 23:00.

  14. #22989
    Interesting airframe. Is that a partial rotor stem in the middle perhaps?

  15. #22990
    Its single turbojet engine powered dual sets of wooden propellers mounted on a rotating arm on the center fuselage. The operating propellers would lie flush with the upper fuselage providing VTOL capability via controlled louvers at the bottom of the fuselage. For forward flight, the propellers would be pivoted up and forward to a vertical position. Dual vertical tails were located just inboard of the wingtips.

  16. #22991
    While looking for info about Canadair CL-84 found this on secret projects site. It's the LeBel experimental VSTOL of Dec. 1962 seen in 1993 at Chino Airport CA. I assume it's canadian as it has Canada Patent No.654,548 appeared on the nose.

    That's all I could find on this. Was hoping to see a picture when it was "able" to fly.



  17. #22992
    Thought that design looked vaguely familiar. I have some info on the Le Bel but never knew it advanced that far.

    I believe I posted it as a mystery here a long time ago but as we know now in a simple mockup stage.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Le Bel Covertible.jpg   Le Bel Covertible Patents.pdf  

  18. #22993
    Ok, here is an easy one.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails A671856D-C0F0-4F46-9252-1F052744D21A.jpg  

  19. #22994
    Too easy or more difficult as expected?

    First flight end of the 1940ies.

  20. #22995
    Might be the MS.700 Pétrel ?

  21. #22996
    It is the Morane-Saulnier MS.700 Petrel.

    The first solved mystery in more than a week.

    Over to you, Mike

  22. #22997
    Thank you, Robert. My pics show a slightly different undercarriage arrangement..

    Here's a little fellow with an exuberantly large fin and rudder !
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails tinytot.jpg  

  23. #22998
    So large a fin and rudder that for subsequent models they replaced it with a pair of smaller ones! I believe that this is SNCAC NC.851, F-WDVX (failing which I suspect that it will be the NC.850 F-WCZM - of which I can't find a photograph at present)

  24. #22999
    Absolutely correct with the NC.851, Mike, and, for the record, here is her older sister...
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails oldsis.jpg  

  25. #23000
    Thank you, Mike, for confirmation and for the supplementary picture.

    Moving on, here's an innovator that doesn't seem to have put in an appearance here before.

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