The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

**lefty** · October 2nd, 2021, 04:57

Thanks Robert, but I have nothing lined up, so let's have an OH, please......

Postscript to the last one - couldn't find the C.51 in Aviafrance, checked elsewhere and found that it changed its designation to C.125 ! Vive la France......

**pomme homme** · October 2nd, 2021, 05:41

I even checked out the prices of Les Avions Caudron, by Hauet. Vol 1 £260, Vol 2 a staggering £860. Silly prices - and not for me !

Mike, I assume that you have seen this.

**lefty** · October 2nd, 2021, 07:21

Very familiar with that site, Mike, but you can't actually purchase from it. I use Amazon, Amazon France, Abebooks, for a guide to prices, which I think are driven up by Americans.

***Moses03*** · October 2nd, 2021, 07:37

Trying to do this all by phone.

See if this works. Not a difficult mystery.

**giruXX** · October 2nd, 2021, 11:09

The first Savoia-Marchetti SM.85

***Moses03*** · October 2nd, 2021, 12:30

Correct on the Italian stallion.

**giruXX** · October 2nd, 2021, 22:16

out of the (hopefully) never ending floater theme

**giruXX** · October 3rd, 2021, 11:51

From a well-known, old company.

**giruXX** · October 3rd, 2021, 22:46

France, 1924!

**dan_pub** · October 4th, 2021, 00:34

Franco British Aviation FBA 17 HE 2 Hydravion Ecole ?

**giruXX** · October 4th, 2021, 01:48

negative!

**lefty** · October 4th, 2021, 05:55

Had to have a look at this one, being a floater !

No answer - the wing float shape looks CAMS, but can't find a suitable model, Prototype or one-off ?

**pomme homme** · October 4th, 2021, 06:46

Is that a radiator mounted on the central leading edge of the upper mainplane?

**giruXX** · October 4th, 2021, 08:39

it is a one-off in the best sense:
Interestingly, this company never built any other flying boat after this one (nor did they before)

I would also interpret that cage on the leading edge as a a radiator, but historic confirmation is lacking

**giruXX** · October 4th, 2021, 22:03

The famous company produced more than 100 different models from 1909 to 1944

**giruXX** · October 5th, 2021, 03:56

the penny refused to drop

Look for Caudron C-87 (F-ESAC)!

Open House please

**pomme homme** · October 5th, 2021, 04:24

According to Pascal Brugier ('Registre France 1920-1991') F-ESAC initially was a Caudron C.27 and subsequently a Caudron C.92, which became F-AICY. Neither of these Caudrons was a flying boat. However the Secret Projects website (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/thr...gnations.9745/) says that the Caudron C.87 was a '1924 experimental single engine pusher floatplane, F-ESAC'. Thus one must assume that the registration F-ESAC was used at least thrice on different aeroplanes!

**fabulousfour** · October 5th, 2021, 06:50

The Caudron C.87 was a tough nut.
No mention at all of that plane at aviafrance. It is listed at airwar.ru, however, I tried a search with Uli's clues like

"Страна: Франция" "Первый полет: 1924" "1 ПД" site:airwar.ru

which should have shown each French aircraft first flown in 1924 with a single engine on that site.
The C.87 resisted to appear in the result, no idea why.

To keep things going here is a biplane that should be much easier.

**cthornburg** · October 5th, 2021, 14:40

LACAB Gr.8 Doryphore

Chris

**fabulousfour** · October 5th, 2021, 21:25

It is the LACAB Doryphore from

Over to Chris.

**cthornburg** · October 6th, 2021, 07:49

Not from the usual suspect countries.

Chris

**Sopwith Chameleon** · October 6th, 2021, 09:03

Kunang Nu 35

**cthornburg** · October 6th, 2021, 11:03

close not exact

Chris

**cthornburg** · October 6th, 2021, 16:20

Sorry your right just double checked. I had it as NU-50 which I find out is a 2 seater so I had it wrong and you were right.

Chris

**Sopwith Chameleon** · October 7th, 2021, 08:24

No need for an apology - how about this chunky fighter ......?

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