The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

**lefty** · July 26th, 2012, 21:32

You got it, John.

**DHC2Pilot** · July 27th, 2012, 14:54

For the love of trimotors.....

**lefty** · July 27th, 2012, 15:52

S.A.B.C.A. S11 OO-AMO. Mussels and fries, please, with a duvel to wash them down......

**DHC2Pilot** · July 27th, 2012, 17:26

A frothy pint of St.Pauli for Mike as I'm all out of duvel, whatever that may be. Her reg was actually OO-AMD.

**lefty** · July 28th, 2012, 05:22

Should have been a capital 'D' - the most popular Belgian ale (after the dreaded Stella, of course).

Here's a nice easy one..

(Sorry about the reg mistake - too many Duvels :isadizzy

**wout** · July 28th, 2012, 08:17

Hi Mike :salute:
Just a guess. The Sud Aviation SE-1210 ?

**Dev One** · July 28th, 2012, 11:13

It certainly looks like it having Googled it! What interested me though was the 'handed' air intakes on each wing for the engines - unusual methinks if all the engines were the same variety! ( Mind you nothing surprises me in French design anymore!)
Keith

**lefty** · July 28th, 2012, 11:48

It may be something to do with the fact that (I think) the inner and outer engines were of opposite rotations ?? My schoolboy French is inadequate - 'moteurs supraconvergents' - maybe Walter can oblige whilst quaffing his ale

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**wout** · July 28th, 2012, 12:50

Hi Mike, Hi Keith :salute:
Keith, thanks for bringing the different intakes under our attention. I never noticed this before. Learning every day!
One explanation I could give is as follows: The Nord 1001/1002 and Nord 1100 were built with Renault 6Q-10 and 6Q-11 engines, the difference being a r/h turning prop (N-1001/N-1101 with 6Q-10) or a l/h prop (N-1002/N-1102 with 6Q-11). I reckon the location of the air inlet was therefore adjusted for optimum cooling.
In the SE-1210 engines the are reported as Renault 6Q-20 and -21. My assumption is that this was for the same reason.

Next challenge will follow a.s.a.p.

**wout** · July 28th, 2012, 13:12

A light plane with "familiar"" lines. Did not enter production.

**Dev One** · July 28th, 2012, 23:47

Walter, thanks for the extra info on the engines. Looking in my Larousse there is no entry for supraconvergent, so maybe its another of those alternative descriptions that occur in french when they cannot invent another word because the Acedemie Francaise forbid it!!!
Keith

**wout** · July 29th, 2012, 04:31

The designer was well known for other aircraft. I am sure he was a Rudyard Kipling fan

**Dev One** · July 29th, 2012, 09:05

In which case my guess is Bagheera!!!
If so its the SITAR GY-100 Bagheera by Yves Gardan - Wiki says two made & the first broke up in flight - if its not then dunno!
Keith

**wout** · July 29th, 2012, 10:20

Hi Keith :salute:
The GY-100 Bagheera it is

Other Jungle Book aircraft Mr. Gardan worked on were the GY-90 Mowgli and GY-110 Sher Kan, but these remained projects.

**lefty** · July 29th, 2012, 12:44

It never ceases to amaze me how many worthy chaps were prepared to expend so much time, energy, and cash, producing Piper and Cessna clones, which can hardly ever have shown a return on their endeavours... It's a strange obsession !

You got me on the Kipling reference though, Walter. I spent ages looking for a designer called Kim...............

**Dev One** · July 29th, 2012, 23:12

This ones a bit more ancient, but with you lot I suspect easy to recognize!
Keith

**lefty** · July 30th, 2012, 10:04

No takers yet ? This is a wee Brit - the Boulton & Paul P.41 Phoenix I.

**Dev One** · July 30th, 2012, 11:02

I didn't think it would last long or fox the experts!
Another wee dram for the Scot - Talisker or Snow Grouse?
Keith

**lefty** · July 30th, 2012, 13:07

Highland Park, please, Keith.

Here's a very easy one - quite an elegant machine, though, I feel. But make sure you get the model designation right !

**wout** · July 30th, 2012, 13:46

Hi Mike :salute:
Why a very easy one, if you require the exact model designation ?
I`ve seen the pictured aircraft called the AISA AVD-12 (by manufacturer AISA), L-10 (Spanish AF), I-18 (Iberavia which company started on the design), D-750-1 and D-750-2 (D for Dewoitine, the French designer Emil Dewoitine, though D-750-1 and -2 for the first and second aircraft seems unofficial and highly doubtful).
AVD-12/L-10/I-18/D-750-1 for the first example and AVD-12C/L-10/D-750-2 (the one in your pic) for the second machine.

Question in return. Do you know what AVD stands for :ques:. I donot, but very anxious to learn

**DHC2Pilot** · July 30th, 2012, 14:28

WOUT, your knowledge on such matters astounds me. You could probably tell us how many rivets are in the blasted thing. :mixedsmi:

**lefty** · July 30th, 2012, 21:36

I'm always getting into trouble - what is very easy for Wout is certainly not necessarily easy for the remaining 99.9999% of the population !

I was looking for for the designation AVD-12C, this being generally accepted as one applied to the second prototype with Continental engine.

I saw that it had already been the subject of an in-depth discussion on another forum, but didn't want to go there !!!

Anyway, over to the maestro

PS no idea about what AVD means........