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    Need help, choosing what DRAM to buy for my desktop

    Ok, currently I have the following RAM installed in my desktop. The brand installed is XPG ADATA . My head is spinning, trying to figure out exactly what to buy to upgrade; not only brand, but specific model, etc.... I would really appreciate some advice! NC

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    Memory Type DDR4
    Memory Size 16 GBytes
    Channels Dual
    Memory Frequency 1332.1 MHz (1:20)
    CAS# latency (CL) 19.0
    RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 19
    RAS# Precharge (tRP) 19
    Cycle Time (tRAS) 43
    Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 467
    Command Rate (CR) 2T
    Uncore Frequency 4199.0 MHz
    Host Bridge 0x3EC2




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    Selecting the brand and type of RAM to buy is directly related to your CPU and motherboard Chief.

    Could you tell us:


    • The motherboard you want to install it on
    • brand and type of your CPU
    • The amount of RAM you want to install


    Cheers,

    Priller
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    Also make sure you get the EXACTsame timings :


    Channels Dual
    Memory Frequency 1332.1 MHz (1:20)
    CAS# latency (CL) 19.0
    RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 19
    RAS# Precharge (tRP) 19
    Cycle Time (tRAS) 43
    Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 467
    Command Rate (CR) 2T
    Uncore Frequency

    Make sure you put the new RAM in a "paired" slot that is paired to your current one.

    If it is 16GB in a single slot; buy a 'nutter 16 GB and put it into the correct "paired" slot.

    If you've got (2) 8 GB in (2) slots; get (2) 8 GB and put into the other (2) slots

    This is a weird format; how did I do that... all I did was copy& paste !
    4199.0 MHz






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    First step, determine the manufacturer, model number, and revision of your motherboard. With that information, go to the motherboard manufacturer's website and look for a list or table of RAM that is certified to work with your motherboard. The speed of the RAM is not always the determining factor in how well it will perform. Tight latency timings sometimes makes slightly slower RAM respond and operate faster than fast RAM with high latency.
    My computer: ABS Gladiator Gaming PC featuring an Intel 10700F CPU, EVGA CLC-240 AIO cooler (dead fans replaced with Noctua fans), Asus Tuf Gaming B460M Plus motherboard, 16GB DDR4-3000 RAM, 1 TB NVMe SSD, EVGA RTX3070 FTW3 video card, dead EVGA 750 watt power supply replaced with Antec 900 watt PSU.

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    Thanks all!

    Motherboard is a:

    https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z370-A-PRO/Specification

    CPU is a:

    Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz, 3696 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)

    Memory is:

    16GB, and I would like to replace the existing DRAM and add additional memory for a total of 64GB (max for the motherboard)

    Memory Type DDR4
    Memory Size 16 GBytes
    Channels Dual
    Memory Frequency 1332.1 MHz (1:20)
    CAS# latency (CL) 19.0
    RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 19
    RAS# Precharge (tRP) 19
    Cycle Time (tRAS) 43
    Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 467
    Command Rate (CR) 2T
    Uncore Frequency 4199.0 MHz
    Host Bridge 0x3EC2

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    Hi Chief,

    I would go for this one. It's the fastes quality RAM that your MoBo will take:

    https://www.corsair.com/ww/en/Catego...4GX4M2K4000C18

    It's two sticks of 32 Gb. Should you need 4 sticks of 16 Gb, then it is this one:

    https://www.corsair.com/ww/en/Catego...4GX4M4C3200C16 (but it is slower)

    Cheers,

    Priller
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    Western Digital 2TB WD Black Data drive
    be quiet! Straight Power CM1000W PSU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Priller View Post
    Hi Chief,

    I would go for this one. It's the fastes quality RAM that your MoBo will take:

    https://www.corsair.com/ww/en/Catego...4GX4M2K4000C18

    It's two sticks of 32 Gb. Should you need 4 sticks of 16 Gb, then it is this one:

    https://www.corsair.com/ww/en/Catego...4GX4M4C3200C16 (but it is slower)

    Cheers,

    Priller
    Thank you so much, Priller. I really appreciate your efforts to find that information. Now I need to decide which one! NC

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    My pleasure chief. The reason why I proposed the two is that I couldn't find out whether your motherboard would take sticks of 32 Gb. Sometimes there's not only the total capacity limit, but sometimes a limit to what every slot will take.

    Intuitively though, I would go for the 2x32 GB solution as it is the fastest RAM of the two.

    Any chance you could ask the guy who built your rig?

    Cheers,

    Priller
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    32Gb Corsair Vengeance Pro DDR4 3200MHz
    Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E Motherboard
    EVGA RTX 3080 TI Graphics Card
    Samsung 1TB 970 EVO PCIe M.2 C: drive
    Western Digital 2TB WD Black Data drive
    be quiet! Straight Power CM1000W PSU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Priller View Post
    My pleasure chief. The reason why I proposed the two is that I couldn't find out whether your motherboard would take sticks of 32 Gb. Sometimes there's not only the total capacity limit, but sometimes a limit to what every slot will take.

    Intuitively though, I would go for the 2x32 GB solution as it is the fastest RAM of the two.

    Any chance you could ask the guy who built your rig?

    Cheers,

    Priller
    It is a company called IBUYPOWER, and from experience with having called them some time ago, they don't handle parts; just the entire system. My thought is to contact MSI (Micro-Star International) tomorrow, as they are the maker of the MB, along with Corsair, as I am sure they could provide answers? NC

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    Whoa! No one that I can find has the memory I want in stock! Crap! NC

    This is crazy.

    Would this work? Not what I really want, but am thinking perhaps it would be faster than what I have now?
    https://www.crucial.com/memory/ddr4/bl2k8g36c16u4rl

    or maybe this?

    https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Venge..._t2_B07TC4TPCN

    At this point, I am just throwing "darts", and hope something hits!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Chief View Post
    Whoa! No one that I can find has the memory I want in stock! Crap! NC

    This is crazy.
    Welcome to the post-Covid world. Global semi-conductor shortage means things like memory are in short supply and when you find it, expect to pay more.
    By the way, on many motherboards, 2 sticks of RAM is faster and more efficient than 4, but some motherboards are equally fast and efficient regardless of configuration.
    My computer: ABS Gladiator Gaming PC featuring an Intel 10700F CPU, EVGA CLC-240 AIO cooler (dead fans replaced with Noctua fans), Asus Tuf Gaming B460M Plus motherboard, 16GB DDR4-3000 RAM, 1 TB NVMe SSD, EVGA RTX3070 FTW3 video card, dead EVGA 750 watt power supply replaced with Antec 900 watt PSU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Chief View Post
    Whoa! No one that I can find has the memory I want in stock! Crap! NC
    Would this work? Not what I really want, but am thinking perhaps it would be faster than what I have now?

    https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Venge..._t2_B07TC4TPCN
    You might as well go with Corsair Chief, pretty hard to go wrong and as pointed out above, everything is hard to buy thanks to COVID.
    "Illegitimum non carborundum".

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat666 View Post
    You might as well go with Corsair Chief, pretty hard to go wrong and as pointed out above, everything is hard to buy thanks to COVID.

    I went ahead and got this for now. Last night, it was on Best Buy for $199.00. This morning, it went up to $224! It is NOT the fastest of drives, but is one heckuva deal for the price!
    https://www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-blue...?skuId=6450175

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    " The SATA1 port will be unavailable when an M.2 SATA SSD module has been installed
    in the M.2 slot." E7B48v1.0.zip Your motherboard manual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penzoil3 View Post
    " The SATA1 port will be unavailable when an M.2 SATA SSD module has been installed
    in the M.2 slot." E7B48v1.0.zip Your motherboard manual.
    Thanks for that info! I had read that earlier, and ordered this from Amazon:
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WQ447MN...ing=UTF8&psc=1

    It will fit into my one remaining PCI-E slot, and allow me to use the ssd card. I plan to back up my C:, then install another ssd card in the dedicated M.2. Slot, and install files back to that. NC

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