INITIAL RELEASE: Grumman Goose G21A Redux II

**Mach3DS** · December 31st, 2020, 16:36

**firerx** · December 31st, 2020, 16:42

man,
I sure like that bare metel one.

**dvj** · December 31st, 2020, 17:22

Originally Posted by 000rick000

That whole set is amazing. Wow. -d

**Mach3DS** · December 31st, 2020, 21:48

Originally Posted by dvj

That whole set is amazing. Wow. -d

Thanks dvj. I also edited the Roughmets in this one as well. Just to my own preference. Nothing too exhaustive. Is there a paint kit for this by any chance? Anyone know?

***jankees*** · January 1st, 2021, 07:39

I just uploaded this paint, here and on flightsim.to.
Could you check it out and see what you think of the shine? Too much/not enough/just right?

jk0029

jk0024

jk0028

jk0026

there's more on the way, but I'll await your comments first

***jankees*** · January 1st, 2021, 07:41

a few that are in the pipeline:

jk0013

jk0019

jk10573

jk10586

**dvj** · January 1st, 2021, 08:49

[QUOTE=jankees;1248386]a few that are in the pipeline:

jk10573 Would it be possible to remove "Texico" from the red one? I never trusted the "man with the star" but I do love the red with white stripe. -d

***stovall*** · January 1st, 2021, 09:17

Originally Posted by jankees

a few that are in the pipeline:

Jan, I use to fly the Goose to Catalina when I was a kid. It will be nice to have that paint scheme to fly back to Catalina. Good work and looking forward to the Catalina livery. Tom

**dvj** · January 1st, 2021, 09:34

Just perfect.

**spatialpro** · January 1st, 2021, 10:56

I've yet to re-download with the latest fixes and I see new repaints are coming online... Has the mirrored wing been fixed (i.e. each wing can be painted independently)?

***jankees*** · January 1st, 2021, 11:05

No, not yet

**Mach3DS** · January 1st, 2021, 14:58

A little more refinement of the Roughmets...around the engines especially.

**firerx** · January 1st, 2021, 15:11

thanks Jankees for the Catalina Livery

**OzWookiee** · January 1st, 2021, 22:32

Originally Posted by 000rick000

A little more refinement of the Roughmets...around the engines especially.

Looking good. Maybe a touch too matte on the exhaust, but only a smidge. Bloody great work and something I was going to do for the next update. But as mentioned, with proper credit could we use your COMP files?

**Mach3DS** · January 1st, 2021, 22:53

Yeah that's no prob. You can use them if you like them!

***jankees*** · January 2nd, 2021, 05:36

been busy uploading, here, avsim and flightsim.to:

jk0040

jk0076

jk0062

jk0054

jk0045

as well as the ones I showed earlier

**jmhelms** · January 2nd, 2021, 08:33

Just downloaded the Goose...flies great in 1.12.13...
....looks great too....I note: using my XBox controller,
there is a lot of "vibration" using my stock setting (22)
under "Accessibility"...of course, this can be turned off; the
water landing effect is not so realistic (at least to me); and,
sometimes the windshield exhibits a lot of reflection (opacity?)
on a bright, sunny day...

Overall, right now probably the best freeware plane for MSFS
hands down!...can't wait for you to get the instruments working...

Congratulations on a great job!

Happy New Year...

John H.

**OzWookiee** · January 2nd, 2021, 11:59

Originally Posted by jmhelms

Just downloaded the Goose...flies great in 1.12.13...
....looks great too....I note: using my XBox controller,
there is a lot of "vibration" using my stock setting (22)
under "Accessibility"...of course, this can be turned off; the
water landing effect is not so realistic (at least to me); and,
sometimes the windshield exhibits a lot of reflection (opacity?)
on a bright, sunny day...

Overall, right now probably the best freeware plane for MSFS
hands down!...can't wait for you to get the instruments working...

Congratulations on a great job!

Happy New Year...

John H.

Thanks for the kind words.

Xbox controller vibration is a known issue and well look at that for release.

There are no effects currently due to Sim limitations.

We've also had reports of the glass reflections so we'll be looking at them also.

Only instruments not working is the Radio Stack.

Happy flying.

***jankees*** · January 3rd, 2021, 01:16

I found another Goose in my hangar:

jk0085

jk0088

you want this one as well?

**LAN** · January 3rd, 2021, 08:58

Ah man, I had heard of a Goose conversion, but I didn't realize it was the OZ one! Never flew it much in FSX but I thought it was a pretty darn excellent upgrade for it the few times I did fly. Glad to see you lot take the time to fix it up, gonna be the first aircraft download I make for this sim since launch.

So thank you!

**dvj** · January 3rd, 2021, 18:00

Against the wind

**OzWookiee** · January 3rd, 2021, 23:33

Originally Posted by dvj

Against the wind

Mmm nice shot.

**Mach3DS** · January 4th, 2021, 08:56

So I restarted from scratch, after I found something that worked...up to this point I was just making destructive adjustments to the .dds files. So this morning I remade them into PSDs using the .dds files and then added adjustment layers etc. to get back to the look I was going for. In the process I discovered that there are significant of what looks like errors in the 3D mesh of the model?? Looks like there may be numerous places where the maybe the vertices are inverted? You can tell this is so, from the way the reflections seem to randomly become inverted to the direction they should be going. It's not readily apparent with non-metallic textured surfaces. Although the dark areas on the inboard trailing edges of the wings is noticeable from most paints. Not sure if this can be fixed? At any rate. It's very noticeable from certain lighting angles and not from others. As would be expected. Outside of that, it's coming along nicely! Below are some screens from various lighting conditions.

**spatialpro** · January 4th, 2021, 10:36

Originally Posted by 000rick000

So I restarted from scratch, after I found something that worked...up to this point I was just making destructive adjustments to the .dds files. So this morning I remade them into PSDs using the .dds files and then added adjustment layers etc. to get back to the look I was going for. In the process I discovered that there are significant of what looks like errors in the 3D mesh of the model?? Looks like there may be numerous places where the maybe the vertices are inverted? You can tell this is so, from the way the reflections seem to randomly become inverted to the direction they should be going. It's not readily apparent with non-metallic textured surfaces. Although the dark areas on the inboard trailing edges of the wings is noticeable from most paints. Not sure if this can be fixed?

Wow, that is quite noticeable! It does indeed seem as if something is up (or down?! LOL) with quite a few vertices. Maybe worth importing into ModelConverterX (and onwards into Blender) to take a closer look at what might be happening?

In fact once pointed out it is very difficult to "unsee" it! For instance I can now also see the same artifacts in Jan's screenshots of his repaints.