Douglas X-3 Stiletto FSX Native

**Milton Shupe** · May 3rd, 2018, 12:12

Originally Posted by warchild

I'm loving these gauges, and the seal around the widows is first rate

loving it all really..

Could you ask Mr. Thomas if he would be so kind as to extend the Mach speed indicater gauge out to Mach 2.5 Please?? My logic is the the plane was always intended to be a Mach 2 plane, and would have been designed as such, with gauges to support it.. Thanks in advance.

More soon

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Pam

Scott and I talked about the Mach meter going to 2.1 but the original panel gauge, as all gauges we have now, are just like the real world panel. So, we decided to stay authentic instead.

With that said, the tool tip does read past the gauge markings to give actual Mach in a dive. I believe I got it to M1.1 on one dive.

**warchild** · May 3rd, 2018, 20:05

well, if it follows the standard path for an eliptical wing then the lower pressure wave moves back to about 25% MAC while the upper pressure wave moves back to a little over 50% mac. the other phenomena observed during this time is that the pressure cone gets narrower/smaller (??)

**Milton Shupe** · May 4th, 2018, 05:10

Okay, correction on the Mach meter - the museum piece in Ohio has a Mach 1 meter.

As Pam has pointed out from the manual, the graphics show a Mach 3 meter. So, we will in fact upgrade our Mach meter to one that is "more authentic". :-)

**warchild** · May 4th, 2018, 11:58

Originally Posted by Milton Shupe

Okay, correction on the Mach meter - the museum piece in Ohio has a Mach 1 meter.

As Pam has pointed out from the manual, the graphics show a Mach 3 meter. So, we will in fact upgrade our Mach meter to one that is "more authentic". :-)

Thanks Milton.. That will be awesome.. Theoretically i actually have someone coming to visit me today.

. So i'll be waiting till tomorrow to jump back on the fde..

Theresanother curiosity i wnt to play with at some point in the future.. The bottom of this plane is flat, in a way that almost mimics and F-14, Now, Nasa hadnt even thought of their first lifting body at that point, so they wouldnt have taken into account, the amount of lift generated by that flat space, like the engineers at Grumman did twenty years later. But that lift would be there. it'll be intreresting to see how it plays into the behavior of the plane..

**Milton Shupe** · May 5th, 2018, 04:58

Time available has been limited but some progress to report.

Found the sweet spot for hi-res gauges for the vc panels, and Scott continues evolving the 2D panel and pop-ups. Scott also added a Mach 3 meter as an option.

Did some tweaking of the main gear to stiffen suspension while ensuring proper ride height, tweaked yoke animations, and yoke handles appearance.

Working to map the VC panels and gauges now.

EDIT: adding a gmax view of the VC panel and gauges construction just for interest

**Milton Shupe** · May 5th, 2018, 09:05

Thanks Bob; no problem; we are having too much fun :-)

Just wrapping up exterior work so I can get started with exterior texture mapping, and hopefully get some textures started while work continues in the other phases of the project.

**Mach3DS** · May 5th, 2018, 10:14

Milton this project is looking excellent!

***Jafo*** · May 5th, 2018, 16:21

Originally Posted by 000rick000

Milton this project is looking excellent!

Minor understatement...

**Milton Shupe** · May 5th, 2018, 16:49

LOL Thanks for the comments. I do find it exhilarating to fly too.

Now working on the tedious task of selecting some 5376 polys of the fuselage and engines by hand to map for texture application.

Because of the fuselage and engines being one big complex part, it makes mapping a real challenge. I am now through the bulk of the poly selections with only another 276 polys left to assign to one of the channel groups. Once that is done and verified, I can begin the mapping process selecting one channel at a time, applying the map view, generating the texture template, then applying the template texture to the mapped areas. It's all part of the fun. :-)

**fliger747** · May 5th, 2018, 17:01

Think of how much fun making the sheet metal was!

T

**Milton Shupe** · May 6th, 2018, 04:26

Originally Posted by Jafo

Minor understatement...

LOL 000Rick000 strives for perfection in every way.

So much so, I am happy to announce the Rick has joined the X-3 team to take responsibility for textures.

Welcome aboard Rick, and thanks.

**Milton Shupe** · May 6th, 2018, 04:29

Originally Posted by fliger747

Think of how much fun making the sheet metal was!

T

I cannot even imagine the skills and time required to hand shape the sheet metal.

Oh my aching hands! Not another piece ...

***Jafo*** · May 6th, 2018, 05:08

Originally Posted by Milton Shupe

LOL 000Rick000 strives for perfection in every way.

So much so, I am happy to announce the Rick has joined the X-3 team to take responsibility for textures.

Welcome aboard Rick, and thanks.

Gonna need my sunnies, I think....lots of alphas and specs....wall to wall metal...

**warchild** · May 6th, 2018, 09:31

Nahhh. Mines only gonna have metal wings, with mighty mouse painted on the nose below the cocpit

**Josh Patterson** · May 6th, 2018, 13:23

Originally Posted by Milton Shupe

LOL Thanks for the comments. I do find it exhilarating to fly too.

Now working on the tedious task of selecting some 5376 polys of the fuselage and engines by hand to map for texture application.

Because of the fuselage and engines being one big complex part, it makes mapping a real challenge. I am now through the bulk of the poly selections with only another 276 polys left to assign to one of the channel groups. Once that is done and verified, I can begin the mapping process selecting one channel at a time, applying the map view, generating the texture template, then applying the template texture to the mapped areas. It's all part of the fun. :-)

Seeing these pics I do believe the X-3 would wear the color red nicely! (Maybe some white accents with black trim like a Pitts but in a style to suit the shape! Perhaps the entire vertical being white with that tapering down to become a cheat line and terminating at a point at the tip of the nose and a Pitts style burst pattern on the wing.)

**warchild** · May 7th, 2018, 05:57

Welll, keep in mind this lady isntyour normal prom date. More like "Janeys got a gun". its latterally unstable below .85 mach and requires a steady hand and a lot more skill than any other plane youve flown to fly. and then of course theres the fact that at mack 1.05 its quite possible if will try to kill you.

**warchild** · May 7th, 2018, 10:14

Terribly sorry. Couldn't resist

**Milton Shupe** · May 8th, 2018, 15:31

Just sent the X-3 to Rick's Paint Shop

**Mach3DS** · May 8th, 2018, 18:02

When 1940's and 50's aircraft come to the paint shop, they are bare metal. They leave with paint.

**Mach3DS** · May 8th, 2018, 19:08

It starts....

**Mach3DS** · May 8th, 2018, 21:05

Materials Test passed! Let the creative process begin!

**centuryseries** · May 9th, 2018, 10:03

What a pointy looking beast!

Looking good Milton!

**Milton Shupe** · May 9th, 2018, 16:04

Originally Posted by centuryseries

What a pointy looking beast!

Looking good Milton!

Thanks! I like it 'cause its got dual exhausts! :-)

***Sundog*** · May 9th, 2018, 16:23

That is looking great, unsurprisingly. You know it deserves to be painted like a bird with that long beak and scowl of a cockpit.

**warchild** · May 9th, 2018, 22:06

ok, my miondis sufficiently blown..

i remember that fiberboard looking back panel from modern laundry rooms in the fifties..The headliner is amazing..

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