F-15E Avionics Upgrade [M2_AU], where?

[Hamilton01]

Dear friends,


Thanks to a nice user here that sent me the (only) link to buy the fantastic,marvelous Iris Pro Series F-15E, but unfortunately I can´t get the F-15E Avionics Upgrade [M2_AU]. It seems like: "0 Units in Stock" ?!?


Could anyone please point me a link to buy or sell me (I would pay accordingly,of course), I´m so in love with this product ( I consider (with VRS FA-18) the best military addon ever to FSX/P3D.



I thank you in advance,



Best regards,



Hamilton

[fsafranek]

Are you referring to the F-15E Avionics Upgrade from Metal2Mesh?

http://metal2mesh.com/store/index.ph...hvh5j3emtr72r0

[Hamilton01]

Are you referring to the F-15E Avionics Upgrade from Metal2Mesh?

http://metal2mesh.com/store/index.ph...hvh5j3emtr72r0

Yes Sir, that´s the one, if you look at the botton there´s a "Sold Out" msg for this product... If you know a working link or other option to purchase it I´d be very grateful.

Rgds,

Hamilton

[DaveB]

Hi Hamilton,

I'm not 100% sure about the history behind this but seem to remember a falling out between parties resulting in both the model and Muden Avionics update being withdrawn from sale. Hope I'm wrong for your sake but this rings bells in my old addled brain. The Avionics update has displayed as 'Sold Out' for a very long time.

ATB
DaveB

[Daube]

Metal2Mesh was supposed to produce a new version of the F-15 completely from scratch, that's also (some other reasons might be involved) why they stopped selling the Avionics Upgrade.
However, in the meanwhile they started developping for DCS right after they released the Mirage 2000 for FSX/P3D.
Since then, we never heard about them in the FS world. A sister company (kinf of like Carenado and Alabeo) of Metal2Mesh started working on a Vigilante, but the project is totally quiet since several months (years?).

My guess is the whole M2M team (including smaller groups) wants to forget about FS/P3D and focus on DCS only.

[Hamilton01]

My guess is the whole M2M team (including smaller groups) wants to forget about FS/P3D and focus on DCS only.

The strangest thing is the link beside the F-15E Avionics Upgrade is the WORKING Mirage M2K-C link. I checked and the Mirage is a valid link,so is not dead at all...

[Hamilton01]

Hi Hamilton,

I'm not 100% sure about the history behind this but seem to remember a falling out between parties resulting in both the model and Muden Avionics update being withdrawn from sale. Hope I'm wrong for your sake but this rings bells in my old addled brain. The Avionics update has displayed as 'Sold Out' for a very long time.

ATB
DaveB

Thanks Dave,but as I said to Daube the link beside is working (Mirage M2K-C). Go figure...

Rgds

[Daube]

I'm not saying M2M is dead. I'm saying they stopped developping for FSX

[hae5904]

I'm not saying M2M is dead. I'm saying they stopped developping for FSX

For the time being, nothing is definitive.

Hank

[Hamilton01]

I´d really like to understand how one can sell out of a download product, and with A LOT of of customers wanting to spend money on their product, but there it is...

[strykerpsg]

Hamilton quoted: "I´d really like to understand how one can sell out of a download product, and with A LOT of of customers wanting to spend money on their product, but there it is..."

It's not a matter of running out of a digital product but more to the point of not having to provide support any longer. Also, if there was already potentially bad blood between the other party, makes sense to make the other's product less attractive an offer.

Ultimately, it's their choice to either continue to allow the product to be downloaded and purchased or not.

[Hamilton01]

I respect your opinion strykerpsg, but they quoted: "Sold Out", not me.The link is still there for BOTH products:



http://metal2mesh.com/store/index.ph...hvh5j3emtr72r0



"" it's their choice to either continue to allow the product to be downloaded and purchased or not ""



Yes,it is. But business is business and it´s my choice to complain about took away a winner product without advice and without explanation to their loyal customers.

[strykerpsg]

Have you thought about the Milviz Strike Eagle offering? It's arguably a better product since there's nothing else to add to her and still very much supported.

[Naruto-kun]

We are finding it difficult to keep on supporting the current F-15E though. Not having the source code for the weapons systems is making things difficult.

[Hamilton01]

Have you thought about the Milviz Strike Eagle offering? It's arguably a better product since there's nothing else to add to her and still very much supported.

No Sir,I haven´t. I really LOVE the Iris F-15, in my opinion it´s far better than Milviz one and I hope to get that M2M Avionics upgrade.

[Daube]

We are finding it difficult to keep on supporting the current F-15E though. Not having the source code for the weapons systems is making things difficult.

That seems like a very good reason to build a new one that would use TacPack instead of a custom weapon system
(I mean, when TacPack is available for P3Dv4, that is... )

[DaveB]

Out of interest, where did you buy the Iris model from Hamilton? Iris no longer sell it even though it's listed if you dig hard enough. I have their first release but missed the Mudhen Driver version.

I'm also wondering how it is 'far better' than the Milviz model?
ATB
DaveB

[Hamilton01]

where did you buy the Iris model from

As I said here (up, first post) a kind user sent me a pvt msg (here SOH) with 2 links, the first was OFF and the second is still working. About my Iris F-15 choice, It´s not perfect (that´s because I want the Avionic Upg) but it is still better than Milviz.

Why? Some reasons, I prefer do not to discuss here since my point with this thread is just to get help to find a working link to the M2M Avionic Upgrade or someone that do not use it and want to sell me.


Rgds,

Hamilton

[DaveB]

Fair enough though generally speaking, if something is for sale, it's not to the chosen few via PM so I assume someone has passed you a copy. No problem with that. If you're going to get your hands on the Avionics update.. the only way it's gonna happen is also in private. No problem with that either.

ATB
DaveB

[Hamilton01]

so I assume someone has passed you a copy.

No Sir ! I paid U$ 35,96 for this product last Monday from a major FlightSim company and the link is still there. The reason it was via PM is simply because we guess the company maybe didn´t realize that link is still ON. Another reason if you go to the main page and hit the search button with Iris, the F-15 will not show.And I think if goes public certanly they will take the link off. But if you want I can send you also via PM.

Rgds,

Hamilton

[DaveB]

OK matey.. I see where you're coming from. However.. if folk are still able to buy it from the store in question, surely Iris are getting a percentage from the sales. Perhaps the vendor doesn't list what the payments are for so Iris just receive money and if there are other Iris products on sale at the same price.. then they may not know its for the F15.
As I said above, you can find the F15 at Iris on this link.. http://www.irissimulations.com.au/ha...mulator-planes . Click on the F15 hyperlink off that page and it will take you to the product page. The only thing you can't do is buy the darned thing!!

ATB
DaveB

[Hamilton01]

Click on the F15 hyperlink off that page and it will take you to the product page. The only thing you can't do is buy the darned thing!!

Exactly! I´m sending you the working link via PM.

Rgds

Hamilton

[DaveB]

Cheers Hamilton

If neither party intend selling their products (these particular products), I think it's about time reference to them were removed from both sites. All it does is remind the community of something they don't need a reminder of and winds up simmers who want to buy them!

Come the revolution...
ATB
DaveB

[Mach3DS]

Don't remind them until I buy my copy Dave!

[Hamilton01]

Come the revolution...

Yes indeed.

Cheers

Hamilton