Dornier Do24 T3 flying boat - Released!

[Shessi]

Hi Folks,
This is the next one I'm working on. I've taken Wim Regeers's (many thanks wim!) old Dutch Do24K made in 2004 for Fs9, and been cobbling it into a Luftwaffe Seenotdiesnst 24T3.

Wim didn't do a VC, so I've taken the GC Do24N VC, re-built and animated it, and shoved it into the new 24. New BMW engines, spinners, crew, EDL mid turret, wires and loads more, re-mapped textures with a new texture. Found some great new sounds....loads still to do.....oh and another bit of atmospheric fun scenery to go with it....;).

Mod Edit:
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?linkid=21042&catid=205

Cheers

Shessi

[ftl818]

Hi Shessi,

Looking forward to the Do24, perhaps these pics will help with the VC.

http://www.dornierdo24k.nl/?page_id=484

Paul



Hi Folks,
This is the next one I'm working on. I've taken Wim Regeers's (many thanks wim!) old Dutch Do24K made in 2004 for Fs9, and been cobbling it into a Luftwaffe Seenotdiesnst 24T3.

Wim didn't do a VC, so I've taken the GC Do24N VC, re-built and animated it, and shoved it into the new 24. New BMW engines, spinners, crew, EDL mid turret, wires and loads more, re-mapped textures with a new texture. Found some great new sounds....loads still to do.....oh and another bit of atmospheric fun scenery to go with it....;).

Cheers

Shessi

[huub vink]

Thanks Shessi, that's a really nice surprise! Always liked the Do24, as its a sort of the German predecessor of the Catelina and funny enough many were built in the Netherlands by Fokker before the war.

Definitely looking forward to this one!

Huub

[Shessi]

Thanks Paul,
Interesting article, great to see the museum opening up the exhibits for the 'old boys'.

Huub,
Yes, one of the oddest built/used ac. Built by Dornier for the Dutch military, then built by the Dutch for themselves, then built by the Dutch and the Germans for the Germans, and the Spanish. Used by the Dutch against the Germans and Japanese; by the Germans against all, by the Spanish for all, and by the Australians against the Japanese???!! ha!

Cheers

Shessi

[Blackbird686]

Looks like you're putting a lot into this "restoration", Shessi... You surely picked a worthy candidate, the Do-24 was a very graceful bird... clean and smooth, IMO. Looking forward to watching this one come full circle, mate.

BB686:US-flag:

[Tom Clayton]

Man, would I love to see a that converted to a Do24ATT Amphibian!

Has anyone ever done that one for FS?

[TARPSBird]

Tom, I was thinkin' the same thing. :encouragement:

[Shessi]

Hi Folks,
just about finished, just going out to the eagled-eyed ones, to check over, and then hopefully good to go!

Cheers

Shessi

[Rami]

Mark,

If you've done one for CFS2, I'd love to include her in the Balkans project. :jump:

Outstanding job, you have a knack for producing timely additions!

[huub vink]

She looks great Shessi, thank you! :encouragement:

Huub

[Shessi]

Hi Folks
Just uploaded the Do24 for Fs9.

There's also some rescue scenery as well uploaded separately.

Cheers

Shessi

[lemonadedrinker]

Hi,
Beautiful machine..Thank you, Shessi.:applause:

Andy.

[Blackbird686]

Very nicely executed, Shessi. The 2D and VC have very readable, clear, period specific gauges and all of it matches up. A very easy plane to fly, as was the real Do-24. You did a superb job on Wim's classic model.


Thanks for all of your efforts, mate.


BB686:US-flag:

[lemonadedrinker]

Hi
The Do24ATT would be fantastic. It still has a classic, timeless look, even with wheels !
Andy.

[darrenvox]

That would be cool, and btw have you thought about uploading each version to Flightsim.com can't find it there but just came back from search at Flightsim and wanted to check here on the file library...its ok

[Wim]

Shessi,

Very nice work, great job. :applause:


Wim

[Shessi]

Glad you like it folks.

Wim,
Many thanks to you, as it wouldn't be here without your initial building skills and generosity!

Darren,
I could, but I want to encourage people to visit and support SOH. So by making ac exclusive to SOH, it makes them have to join, and eventually (hopefully!) chuck some money here!

Thanks BB/TARPS for your eyes.

Cheers

Shessi

ps. A Turbo Do24 would be nice, but a huge amount of work to achieve, if anyone is volunteering! ;)

[Navtech]

Thank you ... nice looking aircraft
I have a question of upmost importance :adoration:
How I can set it on the water ?
I make the smootest possible water touch ... but the plane jump immediately in the sky ... and will continue it's "yoyo" sequence :redfire:
I remember have also the problem with another hydroplane age ago and it was a contact point prob ....

[Shessi]

Hi Nav,
Hmmm, don't have the same prob, and I don't think many seem to, as I'm sure people would shout about it.

It may be that you have a different terrain mesh, or scenery add-on that is affecting the sea level, which in turn causes the ac to think it's 'crashing' (due to height differences) and therefore put you back into the air, when you try to land. Try turning off the sim setting that allows detecting crashes, not really a deal breaker here as is not that realistic how it works.

I've just tried it with detecting crashes activated, and starting or flying onto water does not cause any crashes.

Other than that, I can't really say, possibly you have a joystick problem? That although you think it's a smooth landing the controller causes a glitch??

Also try flying in different parts of the world, funnily M$ did not make all the worlds water the same level!! See if that makes a difference.

Cheers

Shessi

[Navtech]

I don't think it's a mesh or sea level problem
On the same place .. no problems with many hydroplanes (Alphasim Catalina .... Wildcat with floats .. Alphasim Arado ... many Cessna's .. Kawanishi ... etc )

Edit
Solution found (for me at least)
In contact points I modified this
static_pitch =0
To
static_pitch =2.0// 0
No more bouncing

[Wim]

Nine out of ten times when you are thrown back in the air when landing on the water ii is your vertical speed which is too high in combination with the airspeed.
It happens to me now and then , but do it nice and slow and your landing will be perfect.

Wim

[gaucho_59]

Hi Folks
Just uploaded the Do24 for Fs9.

There's also some rescue scenery as well uploaded separately.

Cheers

Shessi


A most needed addition! btw... don't forget the He 115! Excellent paint job...
It inspired me to do a little work on the extant panel... I think you might like it...

To wit:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1509/25865498396_6d8901ff92_o.jpg

Cheers,
G.

[Shessi]

G,
That is very nice!

I may take you up on this one (again!)..

And no I haven't forgotten the He115..;)

Cheers

Shessi

[huub vink]

Great work thanks! :encouragement:

Huub

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/20160318_1a_zpsbzxmqnka.jpg~original (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/20160318_1a_zpsbzxmqnka.jpg.html)

[Navtech]

Work fine :very_drunk:

http://i.imgur.com/KVzJFuk.jpg

[Shessi]

Cheers guys!

Really like that water Huub, and BTW have you toned down the shine on the Do? I've been flying out of the Cees's Schellingwoude seaplane base scenery, which was used by both the Dutch and German Do24's.

Nice Nav, a light cruiser? Hipper class or?


Shessi

[Navtech]

Ship

JMK_Karlsruhe
LIGHT CRUISER "Karlsruhe" OF THE GERMAN NAVY
Copyright:
Usio no Ibuki. All rights reserved.

[huub vink]

Really like that water Huub, and BTW have you toned down the shine on the Do? I've been flying out of the Cees's Schellingwoude seaplane base scenery, which was used by both the Dutch and German Do24's.

The water is Bill Lyons's GW3 water (at least that's what I think). I haven't changed anything on the model. It has a nice satin shine. And yes, Schellingwoude is the place to be with this model, Mok at Texel island by Cees is an alternative.
I have one small issue; the wake looks a bit odd. But I have a look at it later.

Cheers,
Huub

[gaucho_59]

The water is Bill Lyons's GW3 water (at least that's what I think). I haven't changed anything on the model. It has a nice satin shine. And yes, Schellingwoude is the place to be with this model, Mok at Texel island by Cees is an alternative.
I have one small issue; the wake looks a bit odd. But I have a look at it later.

Cheers,
Huub

I am equally impressed by the water texture... very realistic!!!
If you have the URL, can you please list it here? Thanks in advance!

G.

[Shessi]

Hi Huub,
Hmmm, possibly not FSGW3, I only fly Fs9 as FSGW3 and mine doesn't look that good, so would be interesting to find out if it's someone else's??

Shessi

[huub vink]

I have checked but the "water" textures files are definitely from GW3 and all dated 2003.The environment maps are from 2007, due to which I think they might be done by Joao Paz/JazZ Art ( File jzwater.zip at Flightsim.com). The OceanHeightField texture is from February 2004, so definitely not from Joao Paz, but I really don't know the source.

To answer the question from Gaucho_59/Carlos ; Golden Wings 3 should be available at The Old hangar see: http://mainescenery.proboards.com/ )
I'm sorry I can't be more specific, but this is the problem you get when you keep modifying your installs....... :dizzy:

Cheers,
Huub

[Shessi]

Thanks for checking Huub,
I'll have a look at my install, I may have changed something in mine......??

Cheers

Shessi

[michaelvader]

Hallo friends,

I tried to repaint the Do-24 in french navy paint.
But encountered a big problem concerning the right rudder.
Perhaps some one can correct this issue or redo a better repaint?
The 2D panel is well progressing due to Gaucho's kind help.

Yours
Papi

[gaucho_59]

Hallo friends,

I tried to repaint the Do-24 in french navy paint.
But encountered a big problem concerning the right rudder.
Perhaps some one can correct this issue or redo a better repaint?
The 2D panel is well progressing due to Gaucho's kind help.

Yours
Papi

WHAT IS THE BIG PROBLEM YOU ENCOUNTERED?
I might try to correct it if you tell me what the problem is...

G.

[michaelvader]

Good evening gaucho,

when you compare the jpeg furnished in the zip with what I did the rudder are not showing the paint as they should have. Especially on the right side. Than the inner right rudder side should show any color markings, but on mine there are also the "bleu blanc rouge" which should not be there.
I believe that a complete redo by an expert as you will be fine. Sadly I have no better pic than the jpeg joined in the zip
Yours
Papi

[napamule]

There is NO rudder so it won't turn - that is the problem. Try these cnt pts I modified. I gave it gear so it can taxi on land (you won't get 'stuck' in the mud). But you can comment out the gear if you're a 'purist' (ie: use 'slew'-ha).
Hans Wuhrmann uploaded a 'fix' at FltSimCom (Name: do24_config.zip: Size: 989 Date: 03-25-2016 . ''FS2004 Update For Dornier Do24 (DO24T3_FSX.ZIP). With this change the Do 24 by Shessi/Erwin Welker water lands, stops and takes off without crashing''). But he forgot the water rudder. I like my cnt pts better. Enjoy.
Chuck B
Napamule
Edit: Here is a short video of DO-24: Link: https://youtu.be/gMCQOdLzuJE :(3:42)

[contact_points] //cb mods
//Floats
point.0=4, 18.60, -0.56, -1.12, 2600, 0, 0.45, 0.00, 0.100, 4.5, 1.000, 0.0, 0.0, 4, 0.0, 0.0
point.1=4, 18.60, 0.56, -1.12, 2600, 0, 0.45, 0.00, 0.100, 4.5, 1.000, 0.0, 0.0, 4, 0.0, 0.0
point.2=4, -12.00, -4.00, -1.22, 2600, 0, 0.45, 0.00, 0.100, 4.5, 1.000, 0.0, 0.0, 4, 0.0, 0.0
point.3=4, -12.00, 4.00, -1.22, 2600, 0, 0.45, 0.00, 0.100, 4.5, 1.000, 0.0, 0.0, 4, 0.0, 0.0
point.4=5, -16.65, 0.00, -1.30, 2600, 0, 0.65,40.00, 0.100, 4.5, 1.000, 0.0, 0.0, 4, 3.0, 3.0
//Gear
point.5=1, 18.80, -1.00, -2.42, 2600, 0, 1.45,60.00, 0.200, 2.5, 0.900, 2.0, 2.0, 0, 0.0, 0.0
point.6=1, 18.80, 1.00, -2.42, 2600, 0, 1.45,60.00, 0.200, 2.5, 0.900, 2.0, 2.0, 0, 0.0, 0.0
point.7=1, -11.00, -4.30, -2.42, 2600, 1, 1.45, 0.00, 0.400, 2.5, 0.800, 2.0, 2.0, 1, 0.0, 0.0
point.8=1, -11.00, 4.30, -2.42, 2600, 2, 1.45, 0.00, 0.400, 2.5, 0.800, 2.0, 2.0, 2, 0.0, 0.0
//
max_number_of_points= 11
static_pitch= 1.0
static_cg_height= 1.400 //o=1.0
//tailwheel_lock= 0 //Do Not Use
//gear_system_type= 4 //DO NOT USE
//always_use_avg_surface= 1 //Do Not Use - Unknown (?) source/spec

[Motormouse]

Thanks for checking Huub,
I'll have a look at my install, I may have changed something in mine......??

Cheers

Shessi

Could also be Peter Wildings water.
Available at Avsim, search using author.

http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=peter+wilding&CatID=root&Go=Search

Ttfn

Pete

[Shessi]

Thanks Pete,
Yes his environmental water effects are good, I use his one for European water which gives it a much more realistic hue for this area.

Cheers

Shessi

[michaelvader]

Hello friends,

can some one give me informations about the instruments used in the dutch Do-24 versions?
For the engine gauges as they used US-engines the gauges should also be american I presume.
But what for the flight instruments? german, metric or used them american gauges for the navigation and
airspeed, altimeter and vsi? The radios have been also furnished by us equipment I believe.
Any advice and information will be welcome.
Yours
Papi

[UncleTgt]

Papi,

This site http://www.goodall.com.au/australian-aviation/dornier-24/dornierDo24.html mentions instruments still being in german "Not only were the instruments and controls different from those we had been accustomed to in British aircraft, but they were still labelled in German."
Of course this quote could also mean the instuments were labelled in Dutch...

[michaelvader]

good evening UncleTgt,
oh thank you for this link.
Realy very interesting!
So for an eventual dutch cockpit there are just the engine gauges and the radios to change.
Would be nice also if some one will make an australian paint sheme for the ship.
Yours
Papi

[gaucho_59]

Papi,

This site http://www.goodall.com.au/australian-aviation/dornier-24/dornierDo24.html mentions instruments still being in german "Not only were the instruments and controls different from those we had been accustomed to in British aircraft, but they were still labelled in German."
Of course this quote could also mean the instuments were labelled in Dutch...

A very good source of close up pics (good ones at that) to correct or "accurize" repaint details... especially the forward turret interface...
Thanks

G.

[michaelvader]

Hallo Friends,

the site mentionned in the tread before inspired me to do an australien repaint of the Do-24 as I reworked the panel corresponding to the dutch Aviolanda Do-24, with german primary flight instruments and us engine and radio enhancements
here how the ship looks
Yours
Papi