JF DeHavilland Dove & Devon Released [Archive]

Javis

January 16th, 2016, 01:13

Well done Gordon and Roger giving this Lovey Dovey a fresh sticky ! :ernaehrung004:

Concerned me particularly because i have a special place in my heart for the Dove. Took me to the skies for the first time ever when my father presented me with a ticket for a sightseeing flight with a Martin's Air Charter Dove for my 10th birthday. Unforgettable !!

Because of that it was the very first FS aircraft model i created too. (MS Aircraft & Scenery Designer, 500 poly's, FS5... ;-)

Thank you so much AH for having chosen the Dove/Devon as a subject and developing it in such an excellent way ! :encouragement:

And thanks too for the included MAC livery !

Former RAF XJ350 was acquired by the dutch aviation museum Aviodome and painted up as MAC PH-MAD. Most of its caged life it hung from the ceiling of the museum. When the museum was moved to Lelystad it could be seen on the platform again:

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/aviodr_mac2.jpg
(photo courtesy of Fred de Ruiter/R.Leeuw)

The real PH-MAD ended up in Cameroon as TJ-ACE. A great story by one of its pilots is here (resembles quite a bit the fantastic ITV series 'Airline' in which Roy Marsden stars as former RAF Flt.Lt Jack Ruskin trying to setup and airline) : http://www.ruudleeuw.com/others-beunk-phmad.htm

@ Repainters : looking for a nice subject ? The included Devon VP981 used to belong to the BBMF flying the maintenance crew to all the display locations before she was replaced by a C-47 (what else...;-). She would often do a little display herself too. During that service she looked like this :

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/bbmfdevon.jpg

A better detailed photo of the livery can be seen here:

http://www.airteamimages.com/de-havilland-dove_VP967_united-kingdom---royal-air-force_173149.html

Btw, if you want to take it all the way, fly in the real VP981 alongside a Spitfire ! :

http://aerolegends.co.uk/spitfire/fly-alongside-a-spitfire

Thanks a million again AH/JF ! A virtual dream come true ! :-))

Cheers,
Jan

Ian Warren

January 16th, 2016, 10:47

It's a wonderful little aircraft, and fun to fly. I was a bit disappointed that the JF textures and skins are not the same as they previewed last fall. I wonder what happened. Anyway, the VC is very nice and the sound set is good.

That is the very aircraft parked in Wigram's Air Force World Museum, I grew up with these Devon's flying around right up to the early 1980s , the sound set is smack on the nose, it is a superb aircraft, getting into the real cockpit is a real squeeze, one thing this has been giving, that feeling ... nice thing I got a flight in one during one getting a twin engine rating ... I was just a sack of spuds but it was a hell off fun two hours.

ColoKent

January 16th, 2016, 23:33

Strange thing...I tried flying the Devon out of Masirah Island, Oman in P3D v2 (I'm partial to it for personal reasons-- Masirah, that is, not the Devon...)...and it was like a slideshow-- 5-7 fps...don't know what the deal was. I didn't see that problem anywhere else in the world with the Devon.

Other than that, a neat little airplane-- for those into "offbeat", one-off British types...

Kent

Anneke

January 17th, 2016, 01:17

In P3Dv31 with FTX Global and Vector: no problems here. Steady 30-31 fps (locked 31).

doublecool

January 17th, 2016, 12:31

Great Pack
6 Models
3 VC's (including a somewhat modern)
Fine sound
Fine Paints

Reminds me a litttle of LH Piper Pacer with all the little goodies :applause::applause::applause:

Thanks JF and AH Very Happy with this purchase

Roger

January 19th, 2016, 12:16

Anyone with the talent that I don't have, thinking of doing some repaints?

DaveB

January 19th, 2016, 13:32

Have a go Roger and you'll find neither the model nor paintkit are as 'friendly' as they could be! Peter Watkins has said he'll do a few so after I've finished the one I'm doing.. I'll be putting my paints to bed in anticipation of his work;)

ATB
DaveB:)

monk1

January 19th, 2016, 18:35

Any of you talented repainters considering Apache Airlines?

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5008/5336458595_6339ea7b01_z.jpg

http://airliner.narod.ru/airliners1942-48/dh104/dh104-apache.jpg

Wild Bill Kelso

January 20th, 2016, 07:29

I'm currently on this one (early WIP status):

http://abload.de/img/amyo1y6sn7.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=amyo1y6sn7.jpg)

http://abload.de/img/amyo2b6ssh.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=amyo2b6ssh.jpg)

Here's the real thing:
http://www.gatwickaviationsociety.org.uk/displayfullimage.asp?pimg=G-AMYO&ptitle=G-AMYO%A0De%20Havilland%20DH104%20Dove%201B%A0Morton %20Air%20Services%A0c/n%A004086%A0&pcopy=

Still lots of fiddling needed on the nose section...

Cheers,
Markus.

Ian Warren

January 20th, 2016, 10:51

Brilliant Piece of Work Markus :encouragement:

monk1

January 20th, 2016, 12:46

I'm currently on this one (early WIP status):

Beautiful!!

Roger

January 20th, 2016, 14:25

Thanks Markus:applause:

Wild Bill Kelso

January 22nd, 2016, 02:14

Thanks, guys!

Dave is absolutely right about the "not-so-friendlyness" of the texture mapping and the paintkit provided - although I could recall some models which drove me "more crazy" than this one (Aerosoft's Twotter, just to name one...).

After ironing out the worst distorsions around the Dove's nose (ornithologists may excuse this inappropriate designation), I took her for a short hop across the Irish Sea:

http://abload.de/img/amyo1jdky9.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=amyo1jdky9.jpg)

Escaping the harsh Welsh winter, she's sitting at EGCK Caernarfon (scenery by SIM720).

http://abload.de/img/amyo2mnjs9.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=amyo2mnjs9.jpg)

Boarding is completed, the mighty Gypsy Queens still need some time to warm up.

http://abload.de/img/amyo3znj9n.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=amyo3znj9n.jpg)

Unlike her more lumbering bigger sister Heron, taking her upwards is not fighting for each foot in altitude...

http://abload.de/img/amyo4a1kgr.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=amyo4a1kgr.jpg)
To be continued...

Wild Bill Kelso

January 22nd, 2016, 02:17

http://abload.de/img/amyo5efj2h.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=amyo5efj2h.jpg)

http://abload.de/img/amyo687ktl.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=amyo687ktl.jpg)

http://abload.de/img/amyo7epkcd.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=amyo7epkcd.jpg)

After arrival at EGPK Prestwick (UK2000).

http://abload.de/img/amyo9obj4r.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=amyo9obj4r.jpg)

More Reference:
http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1416286/

I think she's ready to get packed...

Cheers,
Markus.

wombat666

January 22nd, 2016, 04:02

"mighty Gypsy Queens"??????
:biggrin-new:
Would not pull the dick off a Chocolate Mouse on a warm day.
Markus, that was my late Father's favourite description of that entire De Havilland 'family' of engines.
:triumphant:

DaveB

January 22nd, 2016, 04:47

Nice job Markus:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)

Wild Bill Kelso

January 22nd, 2016, 06:15

Well, those Gypsy Queens don't turn her into a speedy podracer, on the other hand this Dove is nimble enough to negotiate through some nasty 24 kn crosswinds while nailing her down to EGEO Oban (by SIM720) at the rough Scottish western coast, applying some advanced Chinese landing techniques ("wan wing daun"):

http://abload.de/img/amyo10ewut2.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=amyo10ewut2.jpg)

http://abload.de/img/amyo119zus7.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=amyo119zus7.jpg)

Note: According to the refernce pic mentioned above, the Dove's rump (don't know how to name this rear fuselage part below the rudder) now has received a grey shade instead of white.

Cheers,
Markus.

DaveB

January 22nd, 2016, 07:50

Markus..

I've a feeling the spinners should be blue on this paint mate but I'll check:encouragement:

EDIT: Yup.. definitely blue;)
ATB
DaveB:)

Wild Bill Kelso

January 22nd, 2016, 08:25

Thanks for this hint, Dave!

Nice coincidence, since I've found another reference image of AMYO myself, taken at my 'home port' Berlin-Tempelhof, clearly confirming the blue spinners:
http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1242650/

http://abload.de/img/amyo1218ufp.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=amyo1218ufp.jpg)

Seems like AMYO with the slightly bigger "MORTON" lettering didn't sport the additional smaller letters just above the pax exit, although the Heron G-ASVA did:
http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1158501/

So I have to remove them, although it's a shame, since the large fuselage textures allow such fine letters without blurring.

In exchange, the upper wing registration letters, as seen here
http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1244717/ (note the earlier small "MORTON" lettering, fitting between the cabin vents)
had to be added:

http://abload.de/img/amyo13f8uu8.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=amyo13f8uu8.jpg)

Any further suggestions welcome - as always...

Cheers,
Markus.

DaveB

January 22nd, 2016, 09:51

That particular 'version' from Morton had LONDON in smaller lettering after Morton Air Services. I've only seen YO painted like this. Other Dove's (with the slightly different titles) did have Morton Air Services in small lettering above the pax door as did the Herons.

ATB
DaveB:)

peterwatkins2

January 22nd, 2016, 11:48

Just to keep the CAFU Chipmunk, DH125's and Pembroke company, Dove G-ANUT!

http://1.t.imgbox.com/eIqY5Lnh.jpg (http://imgbox.com/eIqY5Lnh)

:ernaehrung004: Peter W

Roger

January 22nd, 2016, 12:08

Thanks Peter - just downloaded from Britsim:applause:

http://i.imgbox.com/ZJa2uNEQ.jpg (http://imgbox.com/ZJa2uNEQ)

Roger

January 22nd, 2016, 12:10

Thanks Markus for your efforts on the Morton Air Services:applause:

doublecool

January 22nd, 2016, 16:08

Very Nice Wild Bill and Peter :applause::applause::applause:

Looking forward to them:wavey:

Wild Bill Kelso

January 23rd, 2016, 06:13

Upload of the Morton's AMYO is done.
Some 'last minute corrections' were applied with the help of DaveB - thanks, mate!

Enjoy!

Cheers,
Markus.

Ikewe

January 23rd, 2016, 06:54

Already available for repaint here at SOH this depiction of a Dove in Royal Jordanian Air Force Historic Flight livery. I fell in love with this livery first time I saw it and had to do it. Also to add in some variety and exoticness.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=34231&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=34232&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=34233&stc=1

Roger

January 23rd, 2016, 09:21

Many thanks Ikewe:ernaehrung004:

and thanks to Markus:ernaehrung004:

Just downloaded both from our library.

bazzar

January 23rd, 2016, 13:31

Ex-Belgian Devons were used as bombers in the Katangan conflict in 1961. Might make an interesting subject for a paint.:engel016::engel016:

DaveB

January 23rd, 2016, 14:55

Don't say that Bazzar.. they'll be asking for a TacPack version next!:biggrin-new:

ATB
DaveB:)

DaveWG

January 24th, 2016, 08:36

British Eagle G-AROI "Eaglet" coming soon. :adoration:

http://daveg.cbfsim.org/screens/BEDove3.jpg

http://daveg.cbfsim.org/screens/BEDove4.jpg

Nice model, but a cow to paint!:dizzy:

Roger

January 24th, 2016, 13:11

British Eagle G-AROI "Eaglet" coming soon. :adoration:

http://daveg.cbfsim.org/screens/BEDove3.jpg

http://daveg.cbfsim.org/screens/BEDove4.jpg

Nice model, but a cow to paint!:dizzy:

Looking forward to this Dave!

chet twowolves

January 25th, 2016, 18:38

I'm was woundering if one of you great repainter's . Do a repaint of the dove with American reg.

DaveWG

January 26th, 2016, 09:39

I've uploaded the British Eagle repaint to the library. Should be available soon. :adoration:

Cees Donker

January 26th, 2016, 10:57

Don't say that Bazzar.. they'll be asking for a TacPack version next!:biggrin-new:

ATB
DaveB:)

What a good idea!

:biggrin-new:

Cees

Roger

January 26th, 2016, 11:58

I've uploaded the British Eagle repaint to the library. Should be available soon. :adoration:

Excellent! Thanks Dave:ernaehrung004:

http://i.imgbox.com/U5LxGQpu.jpg (http://imgbox.com/U5LxGQpu)

monk1

January 26th, 2016, 17:49

I'm was woundering if one of you great repainter's . Do a repaint of the dove with American reg.

WIP...

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd382/prtscrn/Apache1a_2.jpg

mgchrist5

January 27th, 2016, 04:46

That looks great! It'll be a nice companion for the FR Heron in Apache colors.

I'm not a painter, but I understand that the PK is a bit tedious for the Dove....so everyone's repaints are all the more appreciated!

Fingers crossed for a Reading Airlines (Pennsylvania) repaint someday...

DaveB

January 27th, 2016, 05:32

Not one for me.. I'll not be pulling any US liveries for the Dove but that said.. it's a lovely job thus far. Should I ever venture outside the confines of UK airspace.. I'll be looking it up:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)

chet twowolves

January 27th, 2016, 06:52

WIP...

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd382/prtscrn/Apache1a_2.jpgA
Apache airlines repaint looks outstanding. I live in the south west . Looking forward to this repaint . Great work.

BendyFlyer

January 27th, 2016, 15:46

Curious as to what folk think of this model I have not bought it for reasons various but I have a lot of others from JF which while OK for price, have been disappointing and what seemed like good work was somehow unfinished, so reluctant to dive in on this one, for that reason. (For example really looked forward to the DC-8, great textures, graphics but bugs in the handling and performance which made it quite unpleasant to sim with.

I have always had a fond spot for the Dove and actually nearly bought one for real once but there were significant maintenance issues with respect to the spar and epennage (Major rebuild required), that was the same for all of them, short shelf-life. Been in a real Dove (Solomon Islands Airways had one for a goodly while) but never got to pilot one myself. Sturdy and nimble performer for the engines (a good turbine would have made all the difference). Cabin was spacious and comfortable but cockpit was a squeeze and all that glass in hot areas made them hard work. They had a real pocket airliner feel. Good Navigation trainer for the military.

So what do you all think so far?

Footnote: If someone does a Flying Doctor or NT Medical Service or MacRobertson Miller paint then I guess I would have to get it no matter what. :icon30:

marijn

January 27th, 2016, 22:53

I do have this beauty and really enjoy it despite it's faults. Most of those are easily corrected though. At the moment it's a hard choice, either fly this one or the Flight-Replicas Heron....:biggrin-new:

johnwillimas2

January 27th, 2016, 23:19

..... Cabin was spacious and comfortable but cockpit was a squeeze and all that glass in hot areas made them hard work.

The issues with the trim and sounds have been discussed variously and fixes found (plus, I understand JF is working on a service pack) otherwise I'm really enjoying this. The thing I like about it is the "feel" of the cockpit. BendyFlyer - you said it was a squeeze and somehow the designers of this model seem to have created that sensation in the model, at least that's how it feels for me. I'd like a DME read-out on the traditional panel but that's really the only deficiency in the traditional navaids (you can dial in the 0.5MHz frequencies we have for some NDB's in the UK, a fact that many other models seem to overlook). Haven't tried the "up to date" panel yet.

Ground handling is very good indeed, especially with two throttle levers and toe brakes. (again some models seem to overlook this).

I'm enjoying it.

Cirrus N210MS

January 28th, 2016, 08:33

its a great plane i like it so far too bad it does not have mixture controls so its limited in alt :dizzy:

and the lack of a cabin too which is a easy fix

peterwatkins2

January 28th, 2016, 12:28

Another small donation to the Dove repaint population!

http://4.t.imgbox.com/acAWDNG9.jpg (http://imgbox.com/acAWDNG9)

:ernaehrung004:

DaveB

January 28th, 2016, 13:01

Nice one Peter:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)

Roger

January 28th, 2016, 14:04

WIP...

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd382/prtscrn/Apache1a_2.jpg

Please let us know when it's released!

Roger

January 28th, 2016, 14:05

Another small donation to the Dove repaint population!

http://4.t.imgbox.com/acAWDNG9.jpg (http://imgbox.com/acAWDNG9)

:ernaehrung004:

Many thanks Peter!

BendyFlyer

January 29th, 2016, 00:03

Thanks for the feedback. I thought there would be no cabin, but I don't really miss cabins in most models so that is not an issue. I would agree re the Heron which is very good indeed. Interesting or curious that there are no mixture controls. Well when I am finished flogging around in the Mallard might be time to do the Dove.

DaveB

January 29th, 2016, 01:47

The Dove didn't need mixture controls, the engines being supercharged and fuel injected;)

Atb
DaveB:)

chet twowolves

February 5th, 2016, 02:18

Just checking to see If there is any in repaints being done. For the Dove&Devon.

peterwatkins2

February 5th, 2016, 12:36

Currently working on a Sea Devon - XK895 when painted as a Admiral's barge, based at HMS Daedalus(RNAS Lee-on-Solent).

http://7.t.imgbox.com/FtSEunHD.jpg (http://imgbox.com/FtSEunHD)

http://2.t.imgbox.com/D6BgFkn0.jpg (http://imgbox.com/D6BgFkn0)
http://4.t.imgbox.com/D9EhHjqi.jpg (http://imgbox.com/D9EhHjqi)

Apologies for the green roof aerial on the right of the canopy but the aerial is texture mapped to the right upper wing root so there is a choice, either a green aerial or a white bar across the wing root! You would perhaps be forgiven for thinking that the texture mapping was done deliberately to p*ss off painters but personally I believe it is lack of attention to detail as the Sea Devon paint include in the JF package has one white aerial and one grey aerial!
Oh well, carry on regardless.

:ernaehrung004: Peter W

bazzar

February 5th, 2016, 12:46

There is a patch coming which addresses a few minor bugs and customer comments. This "lack of attention to detail"will be addressed in that.:engel016:

DaveB

February 5th, 2016, 12:49

Don't forget the missing AE under the LH wing!

Hats off for sticking with it Peter. It'll be welcome despite the glitches;)
ATB
DaveB;)

wombat666

February 7th, 2016, 08:37

Several of the posts re the discussion of repaints have been moved over to the dedicated 'Dove Repainters' thread at the request of a responsible person (aka 'Pat') to focus on that subject.
:encouragement:
Do not be alarmed, just a little housekeeping!

DaveWG

February 7th, 2016, 09:41

I see my post went AWOL along the way.

peterwatkins2

February 7th, 2016, 16:04

I see my post went AWOL along the way.

Yes Dave, I noticed that!
Still, I guess we should not complain as we do not want to be covered by the 'See? Painters getting hot and bothered are their own worst enemy....' syndrome. That has to be one of the most non-value adding comments I have seen on this site.
The painters who have commented on the Dove paintkit / texture mapping have and continue to spend a lot of time and effort producing free additions for the flightsim community and unlike some others, do not merely contribute opinion and criticism.
I have to say that the Dove is a superb model and I will continue to paint it. The paintkit could be more user-friendly but so what - at least there is a paintkit. Other than double texture mapping there has so far been no issue I cannot get around - I have worked with a lot worse paint kits(BTW Bazzar, please do not see this as a challenge when you get to the paintkit for the forthcoming Mosquito! - looks an excellent model once again!).
Note to Aussieman, Dave, Markus and others - do NOT give up on the Dove.

:ernaehrung004: Peter W

DaveB

February 7th, 2016, 16:33

I see my post went AWOL along the way.

I noticed that too. For those who missed it, Dave responded that the rudder could still have been on the same map as the fin and he's quite right. The material settings are in the mdl:)

You continue to chip away Peter:encouragement: I've moved on to the RA Spit for now. Had the model for years but have only recently downloaded the PK. I'll return to the Dove/Devon at some point but I'm hoping you'll have done all the paints I want by then!!:biggrin-new:
ATB
DaveB:)

AussieMan

February 7th, 2016, 16:46

You will find them here: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?98799-One-for-the-Dove-repainters

I created the thread and got any posts referring to painting problems moved here. I was a little concerned that the release thread was being hijacked. Nothing has been lost, just in a different thread.

And Peter I haven't given up on the Dove repainting yet.

Jafo

February 7th, 2016, 17:48

Yes Dave, I noticed that!
Still, I guess we should not complain as we do not want to be covered by the 'See? Painters getting hot and bothered are their own worst enemy....' syndrome. That has to be one of the most non-value adding comments I have seen on this site.
The painters who have commented on the Dove paintkit / texture mapping have and continue to spend a lot of time and effort producing free additions for the flightsim community and unlike some others, do not merely contribute opinion and criticism.
I have to say that the Dove is a superb model and I will continue to paint it. The paintkit could be more user-friendly but so what - at least there is a paintkit. Other than double texture mapping there has so far been no issue I cannot get around - I have worked with a lot worse paint kits(BTW Bazzar, please do not see this as a challenge when you get to the paintkit for the forthcoming Mosquito! - looks an excellent model once again!).
Note to Aussieman, Dave, Markus and others - do NOT give up on the Dove.

:ernaehrung004: Peter W

Sorry...I HAVE to respond.
My comment was/is humour...as I too am a painter. I, too have to grumble about idiosyncrasies of 'annoying' model texture mapping.
So far I've also managed to survive creating two High resolution paintkits, correcting per-pixel anomalies....and both essentially from scratch [no paintkit existed].
So please don't include me in 'like some others'.

peterwatkins2

February 8th, 2016, 00:08

Sorry...I HAVE to respond.
My comment was/is humour...as I too am a painter. I, too have to grumble about idiosyncrasies of 'annoying' model texture mapping.
So far I've also managed to survive creating two High resolution paintkits, correcting per-pixel anomalies....and both essentially from scratch [no paintkit existed].
So please don't include me in 'like some others'.

Fair play Jafo and point taken. I guess the humour in the comment escaped me, perhaps I need to lighten up a bit! With your experience and capabilities it would be great if you could tackle the Dove as well - there are far too many schemes to be done! I also have had to create paintkits from scratch, the Avro Anson being the biggest challenge I came across although the texture mapping of that model is excellent.

regards, Peter W

peterwatkins2

February 9th, 2016, 14:02

Just a HU, received a email from JustFlight today stating that the new Service Pack software is now available.

http://2.t.imgbox.com/7bPxD3LY.jpg (http://imgbox.com/7bPxD3LY)

Continuing with the Royal Navy Devons, and thanks Bazzar for sorting out the roof aerial issue - much appreciated!

:ernaehrung004: Peter W

bazzar

February 9th, 2016, 15:06

Looking very smart Peter.:engel016:

Ian Warren

February 9th, 2016, 16:08

Great paint Peter, It is a gorgeous aircraft to go ripping around New Zealand in :adoration:

AussieMan

February 9th, 2016, 16:57

Great work Peter. Will grab this when it hits the library as I like to fly in a region with aircraft registered to that region. Occasionally I do break that rule.

monk1

February 9th, 2016, 17:03

Some great paints out for this bird. New service pack is out as well.

I got interrupted by work, but the Apache is almost done.

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd382/prtscrn/pspache.jpg

-Bob

AussieMan

February 9th, 2016, 18:16

A good stable mate for the Heron.

Martyn

February 10th, 2016, 00:09

We've just updated the installer again to add a new version of the paint kit. The changes are listed here - http://www.justflight.com/support/dove-devon/631b4d2

monk1

February 10th, 2016, 00:36

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd382/prtscrn/Zpatch5.jpg

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd382/prtscrn/Zpatch6.jpg

DaveWG

February 10th, 2016, 01:06

I see there's some new liveries in the SP too. :encouragement:

alpine

February 10th, 2016, 01:38

Hi,
scusi, but everytime I see that bird, I have to think at this...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00pRy14DNDA

take it easy, Thilo

Timmy74

February 10th, 2016, 02:17

I see there's some new liveries in the SP too. :encouragement:

Hello Dave. Which one's are the new paints? I did not notice any new paints? Or is the "Extra paint" package needed to be re-downloaded too?:dizzy:

Cheers,
Tim.

Martyn

February 10th, 2016, 03:17

Hello Dave. Which one's are the new paints? I did not notice any new paints? Or is the "Extra paint" package needed to be re-downloaded too?:dizzy:

Cheers,
Tim.

A mistake in a version of the base pack installer meant that a lucky few customers got access to the livery pack without purchasing it. Unfortunately for the rest of you that has now been fixed :encouragement:

DaveWG

February 10th, 2016, 03:35

Opps! I do have the addon pack anyway as I had pre-ordered the Dove, but hadn't downloaded the updated version.

dvj

February 10th, 2016, 07:55

A mistake in a version of the base pack installer meant that a lucky few customers got access to the livery pack without purchasing it. Unfortunately for the rest of you that has now been fixed :encouragement:

Well that means by international flight sim law, you have to offer the livery pack for free to everyone else. :encouragement:

gaab

February 10th, 2016, 08:20

As long as I understand this thread and it's fellow "special repainter's", all the free repaints uploaded so far will not fit with this update...

Right ?

DaveWG

February 10th, 2016, 09:09

As long as I understand this thread and it's fellow "special repainter's", all the free repaints uploaded so far will not fit with this update...

Right ?

No, they seem to fit fine, but I haven't checked every tiny detail.

Roger

February 10th, 2016, 14:25

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd382/prtscrn/Zpatch5.jpg

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd382/prtscrn/Zpatch6.jpg

Let us know where and when it's uploaded please:encouragement:

peterwatkins2

February 12th, 2016, 07:36

Sea Devon XK895 now available at Flightsim.com.

http://2.t.imgbox.com/XbE88ZKi.jpg (http://imgbox.com/XbE88ZKi)

:ernaehrung004: Peter W

Roger

February 12th, 2016, 08:03

Many thanks Peter!

monk1

February 13th, 2016, 08:37

Apache Airlines textures are up at Avsim. http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=194110

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd382/prtscrn/SEZDove.jpg

Roger

February 13th, 2016, 09:40

Apache Airlines textures are up at Avsim. http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=194110

Many thanks! Downloading now.

Roger

February 13th, 2016, 14:22

We seem to be missing quite a few textures, for wings etc.

doublecool

February 13th, 2016, 15:06

We seem to be missing quite a few textures, for wings etc.

add a texture CFG to your texture.Apache folder

[fltsim]

fallback.1=..\texture
fallback.2=..\texture.SAAT_MOD
fallback.3=..\..\..\..\Scenery\Global\texture
fallback.4=..\..\..\..\..\..\Scenery\Global\textur e

I named the SAAT_MOD because I want the Modern Cockpit
It should do the trick untill monk takes a look... :ernaehrung004:

Roger

February 13th, 2016, 15:27

We think along similar lines:ernaehrung004:

I checked the texture file for a cfg and there was none so I added these:

[fltsim]
fallback.1=..\texture
fallback.2=..\texture.SAAT
fallback.3=..\..\..\..\Scenery\Global\texture
fallback.4=..\..\..\..\..\..\Scenery\Global\textur e

I prefer the old style panel:engel016:

http://i.imgbox.com/wAx80xph.jpg (http://imgbox.com/wAx80xph)

monk1

February 13th, 2016, 16:30

We seem to be missing quite a few textures, for wings etc.

Sorry if anything went amiss with the textures. I haven't uploaded any work in eons. The instructions stated to copy all files from the texture.SAAT into the texture.Apache folder without overwriting anything in that folder. That should have provided all the remaining textures along with the texture.cfg. I didn't feel comfortable uploading default payware textures so the texture.Apache folder only contains the textures I did. Thus the copying routine. Different panels can of course be accomplished as mentioned above.

Roger

February 13th, 2016, 16:37

Sorry if anything went amiss with the textures. I haven't uploaded any work in eons. The instructions stated to copy all files from the texture.SAAT into the texture.Apache folder without overwriting anything in that folder. That should have provided all the remaining textures along with the texture.cfg. I didn't feel comfortable uploading default payware textures so the texture.Apache folder only contains the textures I did. Thus the copying routine. Different panels can of course be accomplished as mentioned above.

You're dead right Bob. I missed that part of the install instructions...my bad:applause:

monk1

February 13th, 2016, 16:47

You're dead right Bob. I missed that part of the install instructions...my bad:applause:

LOL, no harm no foul. Want to know how many times I've done that? :mixed-smiley-010:

chet twowolves

February 14th, 2016, 02:24

Outstanding work . Downloaded and in joying flying in the south west.

peterwatkins2

February 14th, 2016, 03:29

Another Admiral's Barge! Nearly ready.

http://0.t.imgbox.com/JCrPeT0p.jpg (http://imgbox.com/WPT9qidd)
:ernaehrung004: Peter W

DaveB

February 14th, 2016, 13:17

love the blue scheme Peter;)
Atb
DaveB:)

AussieMan

February 14th, 2016, 15:42

Need some help. Regardless of what I am painting I cannot fix this problem. Need someone to point me in the right direction to the correct template.

monk1

February 14th, 2016, 17:17

love the blue scheme Peter;)
Atb
DaveB:)

Same here. Looking forward to this one.

peterwatkins2

February 15th, 2016, 01:14

Need some help. Regardless of what I am painting I cannot fix this problem. Need someone to point me in the right direction to the correct template.

Pat, both these areas are located on the Dove_ExteriorD_t texture. I have noted on the attached screenshots where they are. Beware that the texture mapping for the Dove 8 underside rear differs from the earlier Doves, as I found out when transferring the Hawker Siddeley scheme from G-ANMJ to Dove 8 G-ARHW! Hope this helps.

http://7.t.imgbox.com/DNvZi9kd.jpg (http://imgbox.com/DNvZi9kd)

http://0.t.imgbox.com/NFGxXpfu.jpg (http://imgbox.com/NFGxXpfu)

:ernaehrung004: Peter W

AussieMan

February 15th, 2016, 02:28

Thanks Peter that is very helpful. But I notice from your screenshots that your paintkit is different to the one that came with the Dove package. Or is it the paint programme you use?

Martyn

February 15th, 2016, 02:34

But I notice from your screenshots that your paintkit is different to the one that came with the Dove package

The service pack contained an updated paint kit (the service pack installer was updated shortly after the initial release to add the revised paint kit): http://www.justflight.com/support/dove-devon/631b4d2

peterwatkins2

February 16th, 2016, 06:54

OK. 2nd Admiral's Barge now finished and available at Flightsim.com

http://6.t.imgbox.com/d81y4zSL.jpg (http://imgbox.com/d81y4zSL)

:ernaehrung004: Peter W

DaveB

February 16th, 2016, 07:07

Excellent'e:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB;)

Roger

February 16th, 2016, 10:53

Many thanks Peter:ernaehrung004:

jeansy

February 17th, 2016, 00:25

Bummer,

looks like I wont be doing polished metal paints or is there something im missing with this model....

Bazz is this intentional for the alpha shine?

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bazzar

February 17th, 2016, 13:16

The materials are set up for polished finishes. Just adjust/paint the alphas and spec files to suit your style.:engel016:

jeansy

February 17th, 2016, 14:20

The materials are set up for polished finishes. Just adjust/paint the alphas and spec files to suit your style.:engel016:

using latest version of the paintkit and model has it coming somewhat short of polished, using both CS6 and DXTbmp give me the same result in P3D

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even with a plain black alpha on each of the psd, its not producing the highly polished bare metal alpha shine,

Another thing ive noticed, several parts of the aircraft react differently to the alpha, the only 3 uniform sections are mid and rear sections along with the main tail.

Im more than happy to send you the files, that have been generated my the paintkit so you can scrutinize them

bazzar

February 18th, 2016, 00:08

Sorry mate but you need to go through JF. I was not responsible for the paintkit. :engel016:

jeansy

February 18th, 2016, 03:46

Ok i thought i would double check since i used dxtbmp before to make sure its not the paintkit

I just created a 1024x1024 black bmp and used the same as an alpha

And got exactly the same results without the paint kit, to me thats a model issue

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bazzar

February 18th, 2016, 14:07

No, you will not achieve a highly polished, mirror finish. It was not designed for that. It was designed for a more natural aluminium finish.:engel016:

AussieMan

February 18th, 2016, 17:33

Matt, not sure if this is will help you any but I am doing a repaint of the MacRobertson Miller Dove VH-MMO. It is mostly bare metal and I am using this combination:

Red: 173
Green: 174
Blue: 181

Alpha: Black 10 but working on adjustment for more shine.

I am using Paintshop Pro X5 to create the BMP and them in DXTBmp I use the BMP to import it into the Alpha window and then using PSP I create the Alpha.

I'll try to show a screenshot later today.

jeansy

February 18th, 2016, 17:35

Matt, not sure if this is will help you any but I am doing a repaint of the MacRobertson Miller Dove VH-MOO. It is mostly bare metal and I am using this combination:

Red: 173
Green: 174
Blue: 181

Alpha: Black 10 but working on adjustment for more shine.

I am using Paintshop Pro X5 to create the BMP and them in DXTBmp I use the BMP to import it into the Alpha window and then using PSP I create the Alpha.

I'll try to show a screenshot later today.

thanks but I was aiming on doing a highly polished bare metal scheme, since its not going to happen, i'm not going to waste anymore time on it

peterwatkins2

February 19th, 2016, 04:22

Current work in progress. Devon VP967. I flew in this aircraft in July 1966 from RAF Bovingdon to RAF Chivenor and back as a passenger when I was a ATC Flight Sergeant. Amazed that she still exists in a museum!

http://8.t.imgbox.com/vCHo8Dpm.jpg (http://imgbox.com/vCHo8Dpm)

Currently working on stencils, etc.
:ernaehrung004: Peter W

peterwatkins2

February 21st, 2016, 12:20

Devon VP967 now completed and uploaded to Flightsim.com. Hopefully available tomorrow.
:ernaehrung004:

http://1.t.imgbox.com/g8EQhvwN.jpg (http://imgbox.com/g8EQhvwN)

DaveB

February 21st, 2016, 13:09

Cheers Mon Ami:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)

AussieMan

February 22nd, 2016, 23:48

Not sure whether to post this here or on the JF Forum. I am trying to do a repaint of an MMA Dove and am wondering about the shine. I get an excellent bare metal finish on the engine nacelles but the fuselage is a different matter. I have read somewhere that shine an be set in the model and I am wondering if this is the case with the Dove. Attached is a screenshot of what I have achieved so far.