Milviz F86 -- Aluminum work started

[Mach3DS]

**sorry my other poat got lost in the F86A thread and I didnt want to highjack yhat one...

The spit shine has started....still tweaking alphas ..metal effects...here we come! you can see the difference between the drop tanks (previous metal look) and the ability to use alpha and specular together....what a difference it makes on this sweet paint scheme... Specs are too bright...noted already...in fact I've changed much since these scenes already...but she's almost here!

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[TuFun]

Just bought the F-86 few days ago, looking forward to the shiny stuff!

[findus]

Awesome....another one of your masterpieces !

[noddy]

A great jet has just become even greater.

Well done

[DagR]

Excellent !


Best regards Dag

[Ian Warren]

Looking superb Rick ... the metal master :encouragement:

[Mach3DS]

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[Stickshaker]

Very nice indeed!

[DagR]

Just out of curiosity, is the model recompiled with the alpha values added etc ?


Best regards Dag

[Katoun]

Hi,

We are in the process of getting the MV F-86F-30 tested for full Tacpack compatibility. While doing that, the decision was made to "redo" the materials such that a super shine could be had. We are, when the shine is ready, going to send out a version for existing customers as well as the vendors. No other changes will be made.

As soon as testing is complete on the Tacpack, we will be releasing that as an upgrade for our existing customer base. The cost of said upgrade will be $9.99. The Tacpack version will have the shine built in.

Thank you.

Kat.

[hairyspin]

Dash it all, might have to go for TacPack. Cheers!

[Ian Warren]

Hi,

We are in the process of getting the MV F-86F-30 tested for full Tacpack compatibility. While doing that, the decision was made to "redo" the materials such that a super shine could be had. We are, when the shine is ready, going to send out a version for existing customers as well as the vendors. No other changes will be made.

As soon as testing is complete on the Tacpack, we will be releasing that as an upgrade for our existing customer base. The cost of said upgrade will be $9.99. The Tacpack version will have the shine built in.

Thank you.

Kat.

I'll have to wait till I die ..... that's how artist's make their millions :biggrin-new: then buy the upgrade .... 'GAWD I'm good' .... 6.00AM NZ and still think off the crazy jokes, there are a few that TACPAC is really starting to shine .. Chrissy prezz I thinks .

[DaveB]

We are, when the shine is ready, going to send out a version for existing customers as well as the vendors. No other changes will be made.

Reading that hairyspin.. you won't have to buy the TP version to get the shine:encouragement:
ATB
DaveB:)

[joe bob]

I hope the shine is an option in the tacpac. The chrome look is good for airshow birds but it doesn't give the feel of an operational bird.

[Montie]

Can not wait! Love this aircraft:applause: This will be the first aircraft I jump into when I can use me right arm again.

[Mach3DS]

I hope the shine is an option in the tacpac. The chrome look is good for airshow birds but it doesn't give the feel of an operational bird.

The new materials won't change any of the currently available repaints. It simply adds the ability to produce dynamically lighted surfaces via the gfx engine and the appropriate texture functionality. So any of the previous paints or repaints won't change at all since non of them have an alpha channel called out. This model will also use fresnel. So the birds you want to be reflective will be; while the ones you want to have dull and used looks yet still have certain surfaces or panels remain reflective can be. Should please everyone.

[joe bob]

Rrrright on

[Bomber_12th]

This image by Max Haynes popped-up on Facebook yesterday, and made me think of this project.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th116/12132441_905121669524538_1011069355957386151_o_zps grta6xfh.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th116/12132441_905121669524538_1011069355957386151_o_zps grta6xfh.jpg.html)

And some more inspiration...

(As I'm sure you guys are very well aware, most of the wing surface (and often times horizontal tail surfaces as well) are painted silver on these aircraft, despite the bare/polished metal of the fuselage/tail, which always provides for a unique contrast/study between the look of silver paint and the look of bare polished metal.)

(Photos by Paul Carter)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th117/sabre1_zpsiqzahfwu.jpg~original (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th117/sabre1_zpsiqzahfwu.jpg.html)

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[Bomber_12th]

A couple more photos for inspirational purposes, by Mach Point One Aviation Photography:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th117/10712434_998786143483173_2211989598964355036_o_zps jlg6kqaj.jpg~original (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th117/10712434_998786143483173_2211989598964355036_o_zps jlg6kqaj.jpg.html)

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[hairyspin]

... you won't have to buy the TP version to get the shine

Indeed old boy, but a miserable ten dollars to make my Sabre TacPacked (as well as shiny) is indeed tempting. :jump:

[DaveB]

Yup.. but you've gotta add the price of TP to that!! :biggrin-new:

ATB
DaveB:)

[hairyspin]

My dear fellow, that is clearly understood; plain as the nose on my rather plain face! :pop4:

[DaveB]

I remain confused.. and not for the first time:mixed-smiley-027: But fear not.. I'm sure you'll be more than happy with whatever you end up with:very_drunk: I'll certainly be happy with the non-TP shiny version:encouragement:
ATB
DaveB:)

[hairyspin]

And I shall continue to confuse and obfuscate at will... :dizzy: Rather a lovely model, isn't it?

[DaveB]

Good golly yes:encouragement: Very probably my fave US jet model. A classic.. a good looker and with few (if any) vices:very_drunk:

ATB
DaveB:)

[Ian Warren]

JIMMY JILLICKERS ! you would not need to fire your guns during Korea .. just tilt the 86 and blind the Mig with the shine ... Kweul ! :untroubled:

[Mach3DS]

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[stovall]

Really nice Rick. She is definitely a beauty.

[Peg o my heart]

This is the best repaint I've ever seen, ever

[ejoiner]

Rick, I think you are the current reigning metal master. Great stuff. However, I think that Sabre for now is still a bit too shiny. I suppose this comes down to your PC and personal taste, but that still looks a little "over gunned" IMHO. Perhaps it will look less so when you put some markings on her.

Again, premium work here mate.

[falcon409]

I understand these are all WIP shots and you obviously know the ins and outs of painting. . .great job. I did notice something that caught my eye, "if" this aircraft, in polished aluminum was owned by an individual (or group) and it flew on a regular basis (or even if it was relegated to a static display somewhere), you would never. . .ever. . .see oil dripping out of an access door. No self respecting aircraft owner who paid what a person would pay for an aircraft like this would allow the airplane to roll out of the hangar with oil or fuel stains drooling down the polished aluminum skin. Other than that. . . .looks awesome.

[mike_cyul]

Stunningly good set of screenshots there. :applause:

Mike

[Mach3DS]

Rick, I think you are the current reigning metal master. Great stuff. However, I think that Sabre for now is still a bit too shiny. I suppose this comes down to your PC and personal taste, but that still looks a little "over gunned" IMHO. Perhaps it will look less so when you put some markings on her.

Again, premium work here mate.

Yeah I'm working on the alpha...I've been having a terrible time trying to eliminate a texture seam. I'm not trying to go for the super polished look with this one anyway. As John pointed out, those jets are actually painted with silver and polished to achieve the high reflection. At any rate the ability to make the textures more lifelike is the goal of the material change. I'm actually not going to put any other markings on this one. this could serve as a base if someone wished or you can still use the paint kit...which you'd have to add custom alphas too anyway.

[Mach3DS]

I understand these are all WIP shots and you obviously know the ins and outs of painting. . .great job. I did notice something that caught my eye, "if" this aircraft, in polished aluminum was owned by an individual (or group) and it flew on a regular basis (or even if it was relegated to a static display somewhere), you would never. . .ever. . .see oil dripping out of an access door. No self respecting aircraft owner who paid what a person would pay for an aircraft like this would allow the airplane to roll out of the hangar with oil or fuel stains drooling down the polished aluminum skin. Other than that. . . .looks awesome.

Maybe the owner got in a little over his head and is now having trouble making payments on his mortgage...so he said...I'll clean her tomorrow! ;) No worries good catch...oil removed.

[Mach3DS]

Stunningly good set of screenshots there. :applause:

Mike

Thanks Mike. I like the angle of the close up...I'll have to use it again sometime.

[noddy]

Cracking shine.

[Mach3DS]

I started from scratch a second time...which yielded 2 variations...used metal and polished aluminum....still working on the high polish warbird version. The used version should yield some good paints with a splash of color.

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[stovall]

Great work Rick, I especially like the bottom picture with the head on view. :adoration:

[Daube]

WOW !! The "used metal" has to be one of the most realistic-looking repaint I've ever seen :dizzy:

[Mach3DS]

Thanks gentlemen. I'm pleased with the results as well. I really want to see a particular paint on the used version...so I may try and do that one as well. We shall see if time permits.

[Mach3DS]

I've completed the well used look. I've added a yellow stripe in from the paint kit just to have some color for the screens, but it won't be present in the release. But this is it. Some shots are stock FSXA, and a few have ENB active. But nothing is post processed or edited. The way it looks is how it looked when I captured the images.


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[Mach3DS]

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[Mach3DS]

Almost finished with this one...got the color corrected now...

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[Sundog]

Those look amazing.

[trucker17]

That skin is really looking awesome.:very_drunk:

[Mach3DS]

Thanks guys! It's very satisfying being able to see the metal shine through on the eighty-six. It's been a long time coming and it's a great bird. If you haven't picked it up already...I ***highly*** recommend saving some money for the updated version. Metal shine capability is only one new feature. ;)

[flaviossa]

Hello, what updated version is this?

[findus]

Thanks guys! It's very satisfying being able to see the metal shine through on the eighty-six. It's been a long time coming and it's a great bird. If you haven't picked it up already...I ***highly*** recommend saving some money for the updated version. Metal shine capability is only one new feature. ;)

Thx a lot for your awesome work or should i say art!;-)
Perhaps you have a little spare time for the SSW 104-G template......

[Mach3DS]

Thx a lot for your awesome work or should i say art!;-)
Perhaps you have a little spare time for the SSW 104-G template......

Unfortunately I don't have that one! Thanks for the kind words!

[DaveB]

Any idea how far away the updated version is Rick?
ATB
DaveB:)

[Mach3DS]

Dave, I'm not privy to the time line on this one. However, even if I was, I generally do not comment on release questions (even if Colin has suggested in public previously) because sometimes things change behind the scenes and I don't want to.imply anything that isn't meant to be implied! With that said...I will still say save some room in your FS budget. You're going to like this update. Will bring the meaning of "saber rattling" true to form.

[DaveB]

Cheers Rick. I thought it unlikely you'd be able to say anything even if you did know:encouragement:
ATB
DaveB:)

[ejoiner]

Almost finished with this one...got the color corrected now...

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Holy Ish. Thats right up there with your F-100 Im still waiting for...

[jeansy]

Looking good Rick

[Ian Warren]

As above .. looking very smart indeed :adoration:

[Mach3DS]

Thanks guys. Appreciate the nice words.