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Timmy74
March 27th, 2015, 23:34
Hello Gentlemen,

I was just wondering if anyone would know how to change the excessive body rolling (tipping) of this aircraft while taxing? Also during take off the left wing dips quite a bit too? I have had a play with some "contact_points" (9 and 11) in the aircraft.cfg file but to no avail...? A very helpful chap at another forum gave me some advice but this has not helped so I thought I would ask here at SOH being primary a Military based forum, someone here may find the same problem very annoying and have a solution?

Am I the only one whom thinks its a little over animated and could be toned down a bit?

Cheers,
Tim...

DaveWG
March 28th, 2015, 01:28
Hi Tim, do you have Accu-feel installed? I find that makes some aircraft roll like that. If you do use it, try turning down the "side forces" in the "Land" settings.

expat
March 28th, 2015, 01:33
I don't have Accu feel and YES Fat Albert is a bit rolly polly turning on taxi.

johndetrick
March 28th, 2015, 02:16
In real life they are a bit rolly polly as well.

airattackimages
March 28th, 2015, 04:40
Realistic. It's a huge plane with the main landing gear only 20 feet apart :p

simulloyd
March 28th, 2015, 06:32
How about your fuel load? My C-130 seems to never have equal fuel distribution and tilts while sitting on the ground.

Cirrus N210MS
March 28th, 2015, 07:21
it likes to roll lol thats for sure :a1310:

Timmy74
March 28th, 2015, 14:55
Hi Tim, do you have Accu-feel installed? I find that makes some aircraft roll like that. If you do use it, try turning down the "side forces" in the "Land" settings.

Hello Dave. My Accu-feel does not have that option, only "shock absorpbtion" which I have maxed out but still tips. As for fuel load (simulloyd) the tanks are all equal. I am at a loss?

Cheers,
Tim..

thefrog
March 28th, 2015, 15:54
Accufeel has a "Side Forces" slider under 'Land' - I have found that if I put this to zero, body roll reduces dramatically while taxying.

DaveB
March 28th, 2015, 16:01
Tim..

Side Forces is the last of the 5 options in 'LAND'.. Cabin Integrity.. Shock Absorbtion.. Brake Squeal.. Tire Screech.. Side Forces. I have version 2, not sure what the differences between this and v1 are. Rather than crank the sliders up, try backing them off.. effectively reducing the effect of Accu-Feel. Alternatively.. turn land off completely and have another look. Some models do work better as the developer intended.. that is, without Accu-Feel;)

ATB
DaveB:)

Timmy74
March 28th, 2015, 23:46
Tim..

Side Forces is the last of the 5 options in 'LAND'.. Cabin Integrity.. Shock Absorbtion.. Brake Squeal.. Tire Screech.. Side Forces. I have version 2, not sure what the differences between this and v1 are. Rather than crank the sliders up, try backing them off.. effectively reducing the effect of Accu-Feel. Alternatively.. turn land off completely and have another look. Some models do work better as the developer intended.. that is, without Accu-Feel;)

ATB
DaveB:)

Hello DaveB and thefrog. Due to not having version 2 of accu-feel, I have opted to turn off accu-feel for this aircraft and in doing so has helped my issue a little... I guess I will just have to live with this annoyance!?! I just though someone here with "contact_points" knowledge could have piped up and given some insight?

Thank you all for your constructive contributions to my plight.

Regards,
Tim...

Double J
March 29th, 2015, 04:49
Hello DaveB and thefrog. Due to not having version 2 of accu-feel, I have opted to turn off accu-feel for this aircraft and in doing so has helped my issue a little... I guess I will just have to live with this annoyance!?! I just though someone here with "contact_points" knowledge could have piped up and given some insight?

Thank you all for your constructive contributions to my plight.

Regards,
Tim...


Go to the A2A website and run the update.

ncooper
March 29th, 2015, 06:25
Try this

[contact_points]
static_pitch=-0.4
static_cg_height=17.3
max_number_of_points=14
point.0=1, 38.00, 0.0, -17.30, 1500, 0, 1.46, 65, 0.30, 1.20, 1.0, 9, 8, 0, 250, 300
point.1=1, -10.00, -7.2, -18.05, 2000, 1, 2.25, 0, 1.60, 0.80, 1.0, 11, 9, 2, 220, 250
point.2=1, -10.00, 7.2, -18.05, 2000, 2, 2.25, 0, 1.60, 0.80, 1.0, 11, 9, 3, 220, 250

ratty
March 29th, 2015, 09:03
. . . or you could try just taxiing more slowly. The Herc is NOT built for cornering!

srgalahad
March 29th, 2015, 09:51
1. The gear is "soft" as it needs to be to absorb loads on rough fields and high-rate landings, so it will be 'rolly'.

2. It may be accentuated in the sim - I remember when the upgraded FS9 POSKY 747 came out with enhanced suspension and it could be a bear, even to the point of being overly sensitive when loading in with a severe crosswind.

3. Make sure you use proper crosswind technique when taxiing - apply (varying) aileron into the wind as airflow under the upwind wing will cause it to lift. If you want realism then it needs to be handled realistically.

Mostly a fun video of extreme flying in airshow conditions but watch the body roll on landing at about 6:10-6:30 in split-screen and if you watch closely you'll even see it in the take-off run


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBaSOva0Yyo

manfredc3
March 29th, 2015, 22:10
Try this

[contact_points]
static_pitch=-0.4
static_cg_height=17.3
max_number_of_points=14
point.0=1, 38.00, 0.0, -17.30, 1500, 0, 1.46, 65, 0.30, 1.20, 1.0, 9, 8, 0, 250, 300
point.1=1, -10.00, -7.2, -18.05, 2000, 1, 2.25, 0, 1.60, 0.80, 1.0, 11, 9, 2, 220, 250
point.2=1, -10.00, 7.2, -18.05, 2000, 2, 2.25, 0, 1.60, 0.80, 1.0, 11, 9, 3, 220, 250

That's the one I have been searching my hard drives for, for months now.

ColoKent
March 30th, 2015, 16:37
And Manfred...it works beautifully!

Thanks!

Kent

ncooper
March 31st, 2015, 01:00
Don't mention it.

Regards,
Nick

ColoKent
March 31st, 2015, 02:58
Sorry ncooper...I stand corrected-- forgot to acknowledge you. Thank you.

Kent

Timmy74
March 31st, 2015, 03:05
Try this

[contact_points]
static_pitch=-0.4
static_cg_height=17.3
max_number_of_points=14
point.0=1, 38.00, 0.0, -17.30, 1500, 0, 1.46, 65, 0.30, 1.20, 1.0, 9, 8, 0, 250, 300
point.1=1, -10.00, -7.2, -18.05, 2000, 1, 2.25, 0, 1.60, 0.80, 1.0, 11, 9, 2, 220, 250
point.2=1, -10.00, 7.2, -18.05, 2000, 2, 2.25, 0, 1.60, 0.80, 1.0, 11, 9, 3, 220, 250

Thank you very much ncooper it has helped a lot. :wiggle:

ncooper
March 31st, 2015, 04:07
You can still tune the number a little.
Decreasing the value by 0.01 down to 0.95 or so
will introduce a modest amount of lean in stages.


Regards,
Nick