XFJ-2B Fury....

[Duckie]

This has probably already been done but I couldn't find one and I wanted one!

Milviz's F-86F-30 disguised as an XFJ-2B Fury. Some obvious visual compromises have to be accepted but I can live with them.

1. The XFJ-2B had 1ea 20mm cannon each side - pretend like you don't notice the 3ea 50 cal gun troughs each side.
2. The XFJ-2B had had the slatted wing - pretend like you don't notice the 6-3 hard wing.
3. NO TAIL HOOK!

My apologies to all the purists out there, which usually includes me.

Anyway, here is a WIP shot with still lots to do. If there's enough interest out there I upload it when its done. Probably a little more that a week from now (out of town the rest of the week).

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b586/Duckie1021/-2015-mar-3-003_zpsxowslvwx.jpg

[gray eagle]

Wow! That's purdy.... You got my interest. :encouragement:

Section 86 has one planned. Maybe it'll be out 2 o'clock next summer for all that I know. :)

http://www.sectionf8.com/variants.html



(http://www.sectionf8.com/variants.html)

I also found this thread.


http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?88491-Milviz-F-86F-30-Sabre-FJ-3-Unit-VF-153-%28VF-154%29-zip


I found a Navy FSX version here.

Part of the readme:

FJ-3 U.S. NAVY

Support a Mercy Flight near you I am a Mercy Flight Volunteer Pilot

This aircraft has a 2D and 3D Panel By Bob Chicilo Do not profit from this Aircraft Pkg.

This aircraft has lots of animated goodies .. Tail Hook actually drops the wing tanks .. Wings fold actually puts the aircraft in parking mode ..


http://www.fs2000.org/2013/03/03/fsx-us-navy-fj-3-fury/

[skyhawka4m]

:applause:

[Craig Taylor]

Love it! :applause:

I will definitely add that one to the hangar deck.

[ejoiner]

This has probably already been done but I couldn't find one and I wanted one!

Milviz's F-86F-30 disguised as an XFJ-2B Fury. Some obvious visual compromises have to be accepted but I can live with them.

1. The XFJ-2B had 1ea 20mm cannon each side - pretend like you don't notice the 3ea 50 cal gun troughs each side.
2. The XFJ-2B had had the slatted wing - pretend like you don't notice the 6-3 hard wing.
3. NO TAIL HOOK!

My apologies to all the purists out there, which usually includes me.

Anyway, here is a WIP shot with still lots to do. If there's enough interest out there I upload it when its done. Probably a little more that a week from now (out of town the rest of the week).

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b586/Duckie1021/-2015-mar-3-003_zpsxowslvwx.jpg

Steve that kicks ass. THere is a navy FJ repaint that is dark blue, and there is a Marine FJ repaint out there as well, gray this time. I have both but dont remember who did the work. However, Please keep up doing these! Looks FANTASTIC. You could edit the AC config to create a virtual tail hook I spose. I have landed an F-86 on a FSX carrier, but most of the time I wind up boltering or running off the end!

[ejoiner]

Wow! That's purdy.... You got my interest. :encouragement:



I also found this thread.


http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?88491-Milviz-F-86F-30-Sabre-FJ-3-Unit-VF-153-%28VF-154%29-zip




Yup. thats the blue one. Here is the Marine one.

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1093x587q90/537/Edmhk6.jpg

[Duckie]

Wow! That's purdy.... You got my interest.

Section 86 has one planned. Maybe it'll be out 2 o'clock next summer for all that I know. :)



Thanks Butch. I may be wrong but I believe the SF8 F-86 is, unfortunately, it for that group.


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:encouragement:


Love it!

I will definitely add that one to the hangar deck.

Glad you like it, Craig.


Steve that kicks ass. There is a navy FJ repaint that is dark blue, and there is a Marine FJ repaint out there as well, gray this time. I have both but dont remember who did the work. However, Please keep up doing these! Looks FANTASTIC. You could edit the AC config to create a virtual tail hook I spose. I have landed an F-86 on a FSX carrier, but most of the time I wind up boltering or running off the end!

Hey Eric, thanks. I may try to "draw" a hook if I can make it look better with it than without it. At least you will be able to see a retracted hook in flight if I can make it look ok.

I chose the XFJ-2 because it was the closest thing to a "navalized" F-86F. If I understand correctly the XFJ-2s were F-86F frames. So, these will probably be the only FJs from me since, to me, the F-86F and the later mark FJs were not visually close.

[ejoiner]

I chose the XFJ-2 because it was the closest thing to a "navalized" F-86F. If I understand correctly the XFJ-2s were F-86F frames. So, these will probably be the only FJs from me since, to me, the F-86F and the later mark FJs were not visually close.

Man, whatever. They look GREAT. Glad to see this bird getting the Bryant treatment. And little bird is well pleased as well and will wait longer for the NAWC QF... :-)

See here is where I also miss green putty. I would have filled in those gun troughs and made the cannon holes... then sprue'd in the arresting hook! :)

[Duckie]

...See here is where I also miss green putty. I would have filled in those gun troughs and made the cannon holes... then sprue'd in the arresting hook! :)

Man, I know how you feel! No green putty here. Cut that whole gun panel out and put in a new piece of plastic with the correct set up with brass tube cut and set for the gun trough. Then, look through the model closet and find something with an adaptable tail hook and well. On, and on, and on, etc. Sometime I do feel kinda helpless as just a painter!

[harrybasset]

I got some Fury paints from I think FlightSim for the Section 86 Sabre. They have alterations to have the 4 cannon nose and look very good. No hooks though.

[Duckie]

I got some Fury paints from I think FlightSim for the Section 86 Sabre. They have alterations to have the 4 cannon nose and look very good. No hooks though.

And very smart looking they are too! The Section 8 bird has the gun troughs painted on rather than modeled in 3D like the Milviz bird. So, it's rather straightforward to paint on the desired gun configuration of the Section 8 bird.

[ejoiner]

These are all cool prototypes. The PAX river NATC birds are particularly interesting.

http://www.ecardmodels.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/18ec795d2f67381cbd97d7e9674535ed/XFJ-2%20title%20page.jpg

[Duckie]

Great graphic, all good candidates.

[delta_lima]

Hello Steve and other like-minded naval nuts ...

I admit to saying over the last few months being tired and bored of our hobby in general, in large part to growing immaturity and a lessening signal:noise ratio here on SOH. It felt good to focus on my other hobbies and family and just forget FSing for a while.

However, between the release of the new Forrestal class boat, and these "naval" F-86s, I felt compelled to at least pop in and say hi - and say how lovely these repaints are. Just as I was unspeakably grateful when Grady did that Marine FJ-4 style VMF-451 paint, I have to go on record and say how thrilled I am with Steve doing these other renditions. My prediction is we'll never see a premium-grade, true FJ-2/3/4 in this sim ever, so these paints are lovely additions to MV's beautifully done model.

So thanks Steve and co., I'll peek in from time to time...

dl

[Craig Taylor]

Ahoy, everyone! I had a semi-related afterthought after reading dl's post. Does anyone know of a way to launch/trap these Sabres (Milviz and Sectionf8)? I'm using FSX/Acceleration. If someone has already posted elsewhere, a kind nudge would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Back to patiently waiting for the paint!

[delta_lima]

Ahoy, everyone! I had a semi-related afterthought after reading dl's post. Does anyone know of a way to launch/trap these Sabres (Milviz and Sectionf8)? I'm using FSX/Acceleration. If someone has already posted elsewhere, a kind nudge would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Back to patiently waiting for the paint!

Naturally, this aircraft model has neither the "physical" attributes (arrestor gear or correct nose landing gear) that the FJ-2 had (to say nothing of the enlarged air intake, different canopy, different engine, wing fold etc. for realistic naval ops - but you can add "virtual" carrier capability by adding the launch assist and arrestor hook entries into the aircraft.cfg.

These are examples only, from the the F/A-18 - so likely way off in terms of remotely realistic handling - but to get the conversation going, here you go:

[launch_assistance]
launch_bar_pivot = 5.0, 0.0, -1.0
launch_bar_lug = 5.0, 0.0, -4.5

[tailhook]
tailhook_length = 4.5
tailhook_position = -49.0, 0, -2.5

Just looking at these entries, I can tell the hook position would likely need to brought further forward and down ... but am not at my sim pc to confirm.

dl

[Craig Taylor]

Thanks, dl. I certainly recognize all those factors, but was just wondering if it were possible for a 'flight of fancy,' so to speak.

[delta_lima]

You're welcome.

With those entries, you can launch/trap anything aboard a moving FSX carrier, regardless of whether they have the visible parts.

I should have added that it's important, esp with the tailhook entries, to make some edits to make sure the aircraft behaves well on deck. Often the runout is too short and abrupt, with violent pitch/roll behavior - so playing with these really makes for a more realistic and enjoyable carrier flying experience. Even on truly naval aircraft, these dynamics are done much better by some developers than others. Ironically, I find (and just my opinion) that some of the best have been the freeware devs - Dino's S-3, and all the Royale French Navy / Restauravia French Aeronavale planes (Fouga Zephyr Trainer, Etendard attack aircraft, etc.) are just superb on deck - better than the Virtavia and some of the Razbam models. The Razbam T-2 is really good, too, though.

If I get some time this weekend, I'll try and adapt those edits to the MV model.

dl

[Duckie]

Hello Steve and other like-minded naval nuts ...

I admit to saying over the last few months being tired and bored of our hobby in general, in large part to growing immaturity and a lessening signal:noise ratio here on SOH. It felt good to focus on my other hobbies and family and just forget FSing for a while.

However, between the release of the new Forrestal class boat, and these "naval" F-86s, I felt compelled to at least pop in and say hi - and say how lovely these repaints are. Just as I was unspeakably grateful when Grady did that Marine FJ-4 style VMF-451 paint, I have to go on record and say how thrilled I am with Steve doing these other renditions. My prediction is we'll never see a premium-grade, true FJ-2/3/4 in this sim ever, so these paints are lovely additions to MV's beautifully done model.

So thanks Steve and co., I'll peek in from time to time...

dl

Hey dl, great to see you back in here. I thought I'd been missing seeing you in here for a while. Can't say I disagree with your stated reason(s) for being away. Sometimes it's all I can manage to keep my opinions to myself. When that happens is when I usually hit the "close current page" button and find something to research and paint.

Glad you like the project and hope to see you around a little more.

Steve

[Craig Taylor]

Can't say I disagree with your stated reason(s) for being away. Sometimes it's all I can manage to keep my opinions to myself.

I know exactly where you guys are coming from, and mostly just lurk myself. Nothing turns me off more than a flame war. I do have a passion for naval aviation, though, and greatly appreciate the work anyone is willing to do in that area. I don't have the skills to paint or tweak, but am thankful for those that do. Props to everyone who helps keep this hobby going! I'm not a rivet-counter or purist, and really get a kick out of "what-ifs." If it floats your boat, go for it, I always say.

I don't care if the hardware is there or not, I'm just happy to see that naval aviation is represented. :ernaehrung004:

dl - really appreciate your effort to find some configs that might work. Thanks! :applause:

Duckie - really appreciate your painting efforts. I already have your Rampant Raiders paints for the Virtavia A-4. Nice! :applause:

[ejoiner]

Hey Duckie, little bird wants to know when that Faux Fury is gonna hit the upload? :biggrin-new:

[DaveSHQ]

Turn over your purist card.... 😄

[Duckie]

...
Duckie - really appreciate your painting efforts. I already have your Rampant Raiders paints for the Virtavia A-4. Nice! :applause:

Thanks Craig. So glad you like 'em.


Hey Duckie, little bird wants to know when that Faux Fury is gonna hit the upload? :biggrin-new:

Eric, tell that little birdie that, while this is no promise, there is a good chance it will be up sometime later in the weekend. Couple of trickie (to me anyway) color match problems I had to spend more time on than I anticipated and still got one more to navigate. But, thanks for asking.



Turn over your purist card.... . :biggrin-new:

[Duckie]

Getting close...looking it over with a magnifying glass looking for errors and omissions. Should be up by sometime late afternoon Sunday, then on to the other 2 XFJ-2s, 754 and 755.

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b586/Duckie1021/XFJ2B-2_zpssvl7lyzt.jpg

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b586/Duckie1021/XFJ2B-4_zps6d3eapyu.jpg

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b586/Duckie1021/XFJ2B-3_zpsbu3mylwo.jpg

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b586/Duckie1021/XFJ2B-5_zpslsleg3td.jpg

[Craig Taylor]

Looking fabulous!!! :ernaehrung004: :applause:

[ejoiner]

Man, that is looking fantastic!!! Cant wait to fly her!

:redfire:

[Duckie]

Now this FAUX FURY has a FAUX Arresting HOOK!

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[ejoiner]

Really looking forward to this one.

[Duckie]

Uploaded to the library. Should be available soon. :wavey:

[SeanTK]

Installing now!

Also wondering if anyone has updated tailhook and launch bar coordinates for carrier operations.

[Duckie]

Hi Sean, I've got a good starting point for hook and launch bar. I'll post 'em in bit.

ALSO....

2nd of 3 will also be up in a day or 2!

This is No. 754, this NAVY "F-86E" had a tail hook and launch hooks, but was still pretty much an F-86.
This model comes with a "FAUX" hook too! :biggrin-new:

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b586/Duckie1021/754-3_zpsf0soqmrh.jpg

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b586/Duckie1021/754-1_zps6mzsyzl8.jpg

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b586/Duckie1021/754-2_zps62fdh2cu.jpg

[Duckie]

Installing now!

Also wondering if anyone has updated tailhook and launch bar coordinates for carrier operations.

Here's what I'm using. It probably needs more tweaking but it works for now. MAKE BACK UP COPIES of your aircraft and FSX. config files!!

Add the following to the bottom of your aircraft config

[TailHook]
tailhook_length= 3.0
tailhook_position = -25, 0, 0
cable_force_adjust= 0.88

[launch_assistance]
launch_bar_pivot = 15.4, 0.0, -2.17
launch_bar_lug = 15.8, 0.0, -2.23

I also added the below entry to the FSX config to the bottom of the [REALISM] section. This will allow the sim to adjust launch speeds based on aircraft weight and payload. This entry really slowed down the launch sequence for me.

[REALISM]
CatapultForceLimiter=0

[nigel richards]

Beautifully detailed work, Steve - a credit to your talent my friend :encouragement:

[ejoiner]

Here's what I'm using. It probably needs more tweaking but it works for now. MAKE BACK UP COPIES of your aircraft and FSX. config files!!

Add the following to the bottom of your aircraft config

[TailHook]
tailhook_length= 3.0
tailhook_position = -25, 0, 0
cable_force_adjust= 0.88

[launch_assistance]
launch_bar_pivot = 15.4, 0.0, -2.17
launch_bar_lug = 15.8, 0.0, -2.23

I also added the below entry to the FSX config to the bottom of the [REALISM] section. This will allow the sim to adjust launch speeds based on aircraft weight and payload. This entry really slowed down the launch sequence for me.

[REALISM]
CatapultForceLimiter=0


Sweet, sweet, sweet. has this new paint been uploaded yet? I cant wait to fly her.

Obviously one has to use the key strokes to lower and raise a virtual tail hook. As I typically use the VC handle in carrier aircraft, I cant remember the key strokes. Can anybody tell me for raising and lowering the arresting gear? (also the cat cat launch bar?)

Steve, I just love your work.

E

[Duckie]

Beautifully detailed work, Steve - a credit to your talent my friend :encouragement:

You are very kind to say, Nigel. Thank you.


Sweet, sweet, sweet. has this new paint been uploaded yet? I cant wait to fly her.

Steve, I just love your work.

E

Thanks very much Eric. It hasn't been uploaded yet. Still some work to do on the landing gear. This one and the next one had mostly sea blue painted wheel and brake assemblies. Looks like at least Tuesday now. Got company today and tomorrow! Happy you like it. :untroubled:

[SeanTK]

Thanks for the updated coordinates! This is a fantastic livery, and I've been enjoying it!

[SeanTK]

http://i.imgur.com/8T12IEI.png

http://i.imgur.com/SYkOZLj.png

http://i.imgur.com/8VZXDgH.png

http://i.imgur.com/hoyzu89.png

[Duckie]

Great screens, Sean! Thanks for posting. :encouragement: :adoration:

[DaveB]

Indeed.. and off Victorious too:very_drunk:

ATB
DaveB:)

[Craig Taylor]

Brilliant job, Duckie! :applause:

My shots are nowhere near as dramatic as Sean's, but I'm already tickled pink (or should I say Navy Blue) about already logging my first trap and cat shot! :ernaehrung004:

I used the Essex-class carrier from the Warbirdsim Mustang Tales package to give myself a bit of realism, with the added bonus of knowing exactly where to find it. :encouragement:

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[Duckie]

Brilliant job, Duckie! :applause:

My shots are nowhere near as dramatic as Sean's, but I'm already tickled pink (or should I say Navy Blue) about already logging my first trap and cat shot! :ernaehrung004:

I used the Essex-class carrier from the Warbirdsim Mustang Tales package to give myself a bit of realism, with the added bonus of knowing exactly where to find it.

Thanks Craig. Great to see the hook and launch assist are working out. It's very gratifying that folks are enjoying the repaints. Of course, the Miviz F-86 makes it easy to enjoy almost any repaint of their outstanding model.

BTW... #754 should be uploaded later tonight. Finally got the bump map mod for the hook as good as I could get it. Will package it up after dinner and send it on its way.

[Duckie]

Just uploaded.

:wink: :playful:

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b586/Duckie1021/BALL_zpswd76095q.jpg

[DaveB]

Smashing paint Steve:encouragement:

One thing mate.. the readme instructs to make a copy of the texture folder texture.175. There IS a texture folder texture.USAF_175 but not texture.175. I used texture.178 (in case it's a typo) for both and they appear to be fine;)
ATB
DaveB:)

[Duckie]

Smashing paint Steve:encouragement:

One thing mate.. the readme instructs to make a copy of the texture folder texture.175. There IS a texture folder texture.USAF_175 but not texture.175. I used texture.178 (in case it's a typo) for both and they appear to be fine;)
ATB
DaveB:)

Thanks very much Dave.

OOPS! You are absolutely correct Dave. Thank you for pointing that out. I will correct it on the next one, N0.755. to be honest, I wasn't even seeing the USAF! Oh, and I don't have a texture.178. The main things I use from USAF_175 are the specular files. They are a tad lighter and give a little bit more shine than most of the other stock textures. But in the case of 754, you're only using 2 of them. The other spec files in use with this repaint have been modded to accommodate a few panel line mods and are included with the repaint.

Thanks again,

Steve

[DaveB]

Hi Steve:wavey:

I think I must have 2 versions of FU178 installed. One is listed as such and the other must be plain old 178!! I'll swap them for USAF175 now as that was their intended set;)

They really are smashing paints and the detail is breath-taking. Looking forward to the 3rd and final paint in the set:encouragement:
ATB
DaveB:)

[Wings of Gold]

Hi Ducky,

I have your new XFJ-2 Fury #754 textyre. Unfortunately I no longer have the base texture files that you specify from texture USAF175. It was deleted, and my backup is corrupted. In the meanwhile I have asked Colin (MV) for a reinstall of my Livery Pack. Can you specify some other base texture other than 175 (I did not keep any of the Korean war USAF textures)?

Bill

[Wings of Gold]

Hi Again Ducky,

I tried a different USAF texture. Everything looks just fine. Ignore my last. Bill

[Duckie]

Hi Ducky,

I have your new XFJ-2 Fury #754 textyre. Unfortunately I no longer have the base texture files that you specify from texture USAF175. It was deleted, and my backup is corrupted. In the meanwhile I have asked Colin (MV) for a reinstall of my Livery Pack. Can you specify some other base texture other than 175 (I did not keep any of the Korean war USAF textures)?

Bill

Hi Bill, instead of making a copy of an existing folder, you can just create a new folder using the name in the read me, then pick up from there. It should work just fine as I've included all but 2 of the necessary files for this particular paint. So, the stock textures in the "texture" folder will be used by default in the absence of a detail texture contained in a specific repaint folder. If you run in to any problems drop me a pm and we'll work it out. I'm not at my home PC or I could have given you a little more detail. Let me know how it works out.

ATB,
Steve

[Duckie]

Hi Again Ducky,

I tried a different USAF texture. Everything looks just fine. Ignore my last. Bill

Great! Glad you got it worked out. You can ignore my last too!:biggrin-new:

[Corvette99]

Where can we find these ? Love the work your doing Duckie ! Are these available for us regular people yet ? :)

[Duckie]

....us regular people yet ? :)

Thanks Corvette99. Both Furies are in the FSX Skins, Korean era downloads section.

BTW, I kinda believe most of US her are regular people! ;-))

[Duckie]

755 is almost ready....

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b586/Duckie1021/Fury-Cat2_zpssekaebkj.jpg

Couldn't resist adding the long nose gear strut to the screen shot!:kilroy:

[Duckie]

Last one (3 of 3) just uploaded.

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b586/Duckie1021/755-1_zps64aykljt.jpg

[DaveB]

Cheers Steve.. I love this one:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)

[DaveB]

Funny how you come across things completely different to the search you've made. I put De Havilland Dragonfly cockpit into Bing and one of the phots that came up was 755.. complete with extended front oleo!! Scroll down the page and you'll come to it;)
http://www.taringa.net/posts/imagenes/8370569/Lindas-fotos-de-aviones-parte-5.html

ATB
DaveB:)

[Duckie]

Thanks Dave. Lots great photos on that link. Thanks for posting it. I happen to have the one of the XFJ-2, which is an good profile shot of that one. :encouragement::encouragement: