GA_C46_v2 conversion

[braveheart77521]

I recently downloaded and converted Tom Gibson's 2004 Curtiss Commando (GA_C46_v2) to CFS2. I used a DP from Sopwith Cameleon"s C-46. It works except for the wheels. It also has problems with the auto pilot. SC's C-46 doesn't have a vcpanel. That's what I was looking for when I converted the 2004 c-46. Does anyone have a conversion or vc panel or both for these planes?

Braveheart

[hairyspin]

I think the CFS2 guys will be of more help here, moving the thread there now. :mixed-smiley-010:

[braveheart77521]

I would like a panel with a vcpanel for sopwith chameleon's c-46, if someone has one? The GA c46 needs an aircraft folder that corrects the wheels down problem, SC uses a different type of gear.

Braveheart

[braveheart77521]

I have completed adapting a c-47 air and DP file to the GA_C-46 conversion (It is in the library under FS2004 military). However, I am having some problems with the gear, primarily the main gear. It is tilting at about a 45 degree angle (main shaft). I need to move it vertical. I need to know what each contact point controls or does. Can anyone explain this to me or has some literature that explains it?

Braveheart

[UncleTgt]

Braveheart,

A few aircraft.cfg files have the notation as follows (taken from Shessi's Whitley GRVII):

[contact_points]
//0 Class
//1 Longitudinal Position (feet) FRONT +ive, BACK -ive
//2 Lateral Position (feet) PORT -ive, STBD +ive
//3 Vertical Position (feet) UP +ive, DOWN -ive
//4 Impact Damage Threshold (Feet Per Minute)
//5 Brake Map (0=None, 1=Left, 2=Right)
//6 Wheel Radius (feet)
//7 Steer Angle (degrees)
//8 Static Compression (feet) (0 if rigid)
//9 Max/Static Compression Ratio
//10 Damping Ratio (0=Undamped, 1=Critically Damped)
//11 Extension Time (seconds)
//12 Retraction Time (seconds)
//13 Sound Type


point.0= 1, -37.380, 0.000, -5.500, 1200, 0, 0.600, 45.000, 0.420, 2.500, 0.870, 0.000, 0.000, 0
point.1= 1, 2.700, -9.400, -8.400, 1600, 1, 2.100, 0.000, 0.500, 2.500, 0.850, 4.200, 5.200, 2, 152.0, 200.0
point.2= 1, 2.700, 9.400, -8.400, 1600, 2, 2.100, 0.000, 0.500, 2.500, 0.850, 4.500, 5.800, 3, 152.0, 200.0
point.3= 2, 22.200, 0.000, -1.900, 800, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4
point.4= 2, -50.900, 0.000, 0.500, 800, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 9
point.5= 2, 0.000, -42.000, 2.700, 800, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 5
point.6= 2, 0.000, 42.000, 2.700, 800, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 6
point.7= 2, 13.700, -9.300, -5.600, 800, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 9
point.8= 2, 13.700, -9.300, -5.600, 800, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 9
point.9= 2, -44.300, -7.500, 9.800, 800, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 7
point.10= 2, -44.300, 7.500, 9.800, 800, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 8

static_pitch = 4.000
static_cg_height = 7.500
gear_system_type=1
tailwheel_lock =0
max_number_of_points=11

As I understand it class 1 is undercarriage wheel contact, class 2 is a scrape/crashcheck point.

I normally only fiddle with the first 3 points (undercarriage) & the 2nd,3rd & 4th entries on each line (these are the x,y,z axis coordinates). It sounds like you've just got muddled with the different axis'. Point 0 is usually the tailwheel, point 1 is the port gear & point 2 is the stbd gear.

Hope this helps.

[dvslats]

However, I am having some problems with the gear, primarily the main gear. It is tilting at about a 45 degree angle (main shaft). I need to move it vertical.Braveheart

Which model is it bh? There are several in the zip file.
Can you post a screenshot of the problem gear?

Dave

[dvslats]

The GA_C46_v2 contact points are fine. The problem is in the *.mdl file.
The keyframes have to be 0-100 + 200 in the*.sca file.
This one had some that started at 50-100. CFS2 does not recognize this format.

Here is a screenshot of the C-46 V2, using the original FS9 contact points.

https://qolhjq-ch3301.files.1drv.com/y2pwtqC9LFa4dLMMkfMRMLyVVk_nTY-ZwiKhRBtokxcS6BIIWJQ7TOFPeaNyBmLRhWMTV-WX7lw7MayA3yVP6Nnd-JK8VcZHHZ3s4kB35eUhGRx0sIoAobMCK--nXPlN-m16bzyIkhK6TUsCRB-OHRGig/C46_V2.jpg?psid=1

[braveheart77521]

How do I fix this to work in CFS2?

Braveheart

[dvslats]

How do I fix this to work in CFS2?

Braveheart

First a scasm file needs to be created inside of MDLC. ( *.sca )
Double click on the cmd icon and type,

MDLC /a ???.mdl

The ? is where the name of the .mdl should be. Four characters or less.
I use the bearcat241 method. Rename the .mdl to X.mdl, easier to work with.

Try it and see what happens. If there's any problems...post them.

Dave

[Blood_Hawk23]

First a scasm file needs to be created inside of MDLC. ( *.sca )
Double click on the cmd icon and type,

MDLC /a ???.mdl

The ? is where the name of the .mdl should be. Four characters or less.
I use the bearcat241 method. Rename the .mdl to X.mdl, easier to work with.

Try it and see what happens. If there's any problems...post them.

Dave

when SCASM editing, how do you know which is the left and which is the right aileron?

I'm trying to convert a model and I've run into this issue.

[dvslats]

when SCASM editing, how do you know which is the left and which is the right aileron?

I'm trying to convert a model and I've run into this issue.

Hi John,

Well, since no two .mdl's are alike, start by searching the *.sca (Ctrl + F), to see if there is a " left_ailer " anywhere inside the file.
If not, its probably set to a hex offset similar to " lever_stick_l_r " or " AILERON LEFT DEFLECTION#grads#-1#50 ".

This has to be determined first.
If the .mdl was made in FSDS, with ACM you can use the Groups drop down menu to search the part number also.
Gmax .mdl's are a bit more time consuming sine their part numbers usually do not show in sequence in ACM.

Remember that the numbering sequence with ACM starts at 1-infin.
With a .sca file, the sequence starts with 0-infin.
They will be one off of what shows.

Dave

[Blood_Hawk23]

Hey DV,

Here is the model I'm working on...

http://www.classicwings.net/lohner_l.html

It has the AILERON LEFT DEFLECTION#grads#-1#50 in the FS9 model and the lever_stick_l_r in the FS8. That is they are in the SCA files.

I have tried to convert it with MDLC but the Ailerons, elevator and rudder are frozen. I wanted to se if I could do s SCASM edit.

Well I was able to guess my way through but now I'm not able to get it back into CFS2. Would you mind looking at it and maybe walking me through? Or is this a case of needing rework in Gmax?

[dvslats]

Hey John,

I took a look through the .sca on this one and it is beyond my capabilities.

What makes this one difficult is the fact that the control surfaces have external cables that are animated in conjunction with them.
Normally a transform mat would fix the control surfaces, but up to 23 parts are all tied together with keyframes anims.

Sorry, Dave

[dvslats]

Ok, All of the available animations are working. Plus those pesky landing lights are tucked away.

This one really has a nice VC with cargo area included. I do not have perms for this aircraft, so if you would like the converted *.mdl send me a PM with an e-mail address.
I'll send it as soon as possible.

https://qolhjq-ch3301.files.1drv.com/y2pu1jMqiPgw6IFV9FK2B6_EvEPp-eRMw2MSCF3yUZN-rXSzeOCOg5zj6LKXIAVKf5utFxby2zVEzQdBCRnPgaQKPF0EVn lmScDzwx9JS_l-Zy3o7VVltt0XCQRGOswFbljEZW1nxKgbVWr4_RqK1ONTA/C46_V2_Fixed.jpg?psid=1

Cheers, Dave

[Blood_Hawk23]

Is it possible to just release it? Or are there restrictions?

It looks great.

[mvg3d]

Ok, All of the available animations are working. Plus those pesky landing lights are tucked away.

This one really has a nice VC with cargo area included. I do not have perms for this aircraft.......

Cheers, Dave

Hi Dave,
If You couldn't contact Libardo Guzman try to contact Tom Gibson (CalClassic).

:wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey:

[dvslats]

Hi Dave,
If You couldn't contact Libardo Guzman try to contact Tom Gibson (CalClassic).

Good idea mvg3d. I will try CalClassics. :friendly_wink:

Two weeks and no reply from Libardo Guzman.

[dvslats]

Hi All,

I just received a reply from Libardo. He said an upload of his model would be AoK.

Going to start on applying gauges to the panel. It's all that really needs to be done.

Cheerz, Dave

[braveheart77521]

Dave

I have a panel for the GA_C46A that I have a few modifications I've made. I also have modified and added a air and DP file, so the auto pilot will work. It works on the conversion you sent me. I am using a modified main panel and added control columns. I will send them to you. It might save you some work.



Mack (Braveheart)

[dvslats]

Dave

I have a panel for the GA_C46A that I have a few modifications I've made. I also have modified and added a air and DP file, so the auto pilot will work. It works on the conversion you sent me. I am using a modified main panel and added control columns. I will send them to you. It might save you some work.



Mack (Braveheart)

It definitely will. :encouragement: Thanks Mack!

Dave

[dvslats]

Getting a package ready for this weekend.

braveheart77521 has put together a fine panel layout with compatible gauges. :encouragement:
He also added some other goodies to make the conversion better adapted to our sim.

https://qolhjq-ch3301.files.1drv.com/y2pWurzziSbwFIudoVPk6MrYHZNjgvzbwS-E1zNCMQFCLSWuQbB0Z2gfILKKooszKweS2DylG0LPX8IX5EfCj wb88QV2QQQpG6EEkx0DvfixmVkpjY3mKl-P_Xh1OlIyujXGnXe5KQnHGTlPmlD-AjsYQ/Mack1.jpg?psid=1

https://qolhjq-ch3301.files.1drv.com/y2pKgjF71L8zg_Z7CbDTjUWfr-aqFxBH-Btn4kYnA4zr3JbqEtIlqTbcELH9rbWqwQEKrx0osxVHt09uQmi JQjOCLGridcJhM_PQInSZYkF2ICPfYn0XyKsfURE4lfhLllV_O 2m5MjVtFvnaADdwCOLMg/Mack2_VC.jpg?psid=1


Thanks Mack,
Dave

[Worthless]

Really, really pretty dvslats and braveheart77521. Can't wait.

[dvslats]

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/soh_ftp/uploads/imageuploads/400114239307185978.jpg
A new entry has been added to Add-Ons Library, category CFS 2 Aircraft - American

Description: Libarrdo Guzman has graciously allowed me to convert and upload his rendition of the Curtis C-46 Comando.

Thank you Libarrdo!

This model has all animations active for cfs2 plus a beautiful virtual cockpit.

Credits for the original FS2004 aircraft:

Libarrdo Guzman, Tom Gibson, Greg Pepper

Credits for the original CFS2 aircraft:

Dave Slaski, Mack, (aka Braveheart) Kelticheart for his prop texture.

Mack put together a really nice panel with cfs2 compatible gauges in both the 2D and VC cockpit. Included are an explanation of the animation keys in the “Notes” file along with a checklist file. Also a modified air flie and damage profile.

Thank You Mack,

Enjoy, Dvslats

To check it out, rate it or add comments, visit Conversion Of Libarrdo Guzman's C-46 to CFS2.zip (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?linkid=19446&catid=52)
The comments you make there will appear in the posts below.

[dvslats]

Really, really pretty dvslats and braveheart77521. Can't wait.

Thanks Worthless. :wavey:

Hey guys and gals, I received a PM concerning "crash to desktop" with this bird. :frown-new:

Looks like the culprit is the Sperry mkIII auto pilot gauge.
For now, rename it in your gauges folder or move it out completely.

I'll see about getting it fixed in the panel.cfg.

Till Later, Dave

[misson]

Exellent work Dave! thank u! I like to fly in cfs2 with unarmed but beautifull planes!:encouragement:
Cheers friend!
Mario

[braveheart77521]

Dave

The sperryIII gauge works fine in all my installations of CFS2. However, I suggest that it might help to delete the autopilot section of the aircraft folder. I discovered it would not work in the VC panel of the C-46A, so I substituted other gauges there. The replacement air file and DP seemed to clear up and neutralize the Sperry gauge, and allow the replacement auto pilot to work fine. But I am still trying to figure out what the problem is?
I am working on a version of the panel with a static Sperry autopilot.


Mission and others


If you are interested in additional skins for this plane, go to Simivation. In the search section, type in c-46A, any. Two pages should come up. At the bottom of the first page are three skins:


C-46A China (OD)

C-46A Tinker Bell (OD)

C-46A China Doll (Silver)


These are skins for the GA_C46A.


Its a great plane, Thanks Dave,



Mack (Braveheart)

[dvslats]

I finally had a chance to load the other skins you sent me Mack.

Textures are done by mvg3d, no less. Figured it was time for the OD scheme after seeing the original silver several hundred times during the conversion.
Don't get me wrong, Libardo's original silver is nicely done. Just time for a change. ;-)

https://qolhjq-ch3301.files.1drv.com/y2pvraO1iQRchXvN34dW4YxtwMEIIzCZfz3-RdCZR6Ro_Y8YAWkaCQvnQVSRkvu6Yke3GfdgpZ6lz9dtY6SFHI HoMIHmSdCdKh9-k-RTW9k5GvKyj5ft8IyUDNk8qVhIDenr8xUEZeHvk6FrETkVrdVv w/Tinker.jpg?psid=1

:very_drunk:

[Rami]

Hey guys,

This is amazingly detailed. I love both the panel and virtual cockpit. The textures are top-notch too...I like that OD Green skin! :very_drunk:

Great work, everyone! :wavey:

[mvg3d]

Great work !!!
:encouragement::encouragement::encouragement::enco uragement:

[dvslats]

Thanks for the compliments Rami and mvg3d. :peaceful:

The real work was done by Mr. Guzman and others that did the design work. My hat is off to them.

For the time being I have put together a panel layout with basic CFS2 gauges for those with CTD problems.
It is not as accurate as Mack's, but it will do for a holdover. You'll be in the air at least.

Included in the file is an .mdl with lower reflectivity for olive drab paint schemes.
An airfile fitted to this gauge set-up plus aircraft.cfg, borrowed from one of bearcat241's conversions.

The file is in 7.zip format because it really cuts down the size of the compressed archive.
I hope this will not be a problem.

Link (https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=16F3E48BD2D5C11E%21162)

Dave

PS: If the link is a problem I can email also. dvslats ǻ gmail.com
Just remove the goofy a and spaces.

[kelticheart]

Splendid bird, Dvslats!

Many thanks to you Dvslats, to the original authors and to all the people involved in the conversion project.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

Cheers!
KH :ernaehrung004:

[braveheart77521]

Revised Panel

I removed the Sperry III gauge, and replaced it with a static picture in the main panel. I replaced many of the gauges with standard ones (P-38F, etc) for those having trouble. I also cleaned up the quadrant panel. I also added a few new gauges. I included a revised gauge file.

If you are happy with the original panel, just remove the Sperry III gauge and replace the main panel BMP inclosed.

[dvslats]

Revised Panel

I removed the Sperry III gauge, and replaced it with a static picture in the main panel. I replaced many of the gauges with standard ones (P-38F, etc) for those having trouble. I also cleaned up the quadrant panel. I also added a few new gauges. I included a revised gauge file.

If you are happy with the original panel, just remove the Sperry III gauge and replace the main panel BMP inclosed.

Hey Mack,

Tried it out and it looks and functions perfectly.

Our highly competent librarian swapped the old one with your revision.
It's now in the original D/L.

Till Later,
Dave

[gaucho_59]

Comments welcome... available via PM...
G.
:ernaehrung004:

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