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SeanTK
January 14th, 2015, 14:26
Around US$45...see their website for details:
http://www.carenado.com/CarSite/Portal/index.php?accion=product&correl=142
StormILM
January 14th, 2015, 14:47
Is a must buy for me as I used to service Citation variants I/II/III back in the day. For now, I will observe comments from initial users & see how they like it while I plan my list of early to mid spring purchases. I was hoping their Hawker 850Xp would have come first but trust me, both will be in my hangar later this spring(after the Hawker comes out).
Felixthreeone
January 14th, 2015, 15:07
Seems the Carenado site is a bit overloaded at the moment....Been looking forward to this one for a very, very long time!
flaviossa
January 14th, 2015, 16:18
Found a bit step on the price but will get it too.
ryanbatc
January 14th, 2015, 17:13
$45 for a lite product? Getting too pricey! I'd expect Navigraph support at that price point.
Felixthreeone
January 14th, 2015, 17:56
Wait til the Hawker comes out at $60 or more. Yeah $45 is steep, but Carenado is smart enough to know that there are suckers like me out there that will go for it regardless. :banghead:
StormILM
January 14th, 2015, 17:58
Not sure about what differentiates a Lite product versus something above that threshold but I'd point out in an aircraft like the Citation II the original aircraft did not have FMS systems nor EFIS. Most of the ones I handled back in the day had basic radio nav & dme equipment and Loran-C & RNAV systems. The first GPS units I saw & later FMS systems were very basic universal systems which were pretty limited in function. Looking at this product, it appears that Carenado has achieved a good balance of systems depth and added capability over rudimentary legacy systems found in the real legacy Citations. The real Citation is a very simple straightforward jet to operate.
Lane Street
January 14th, 2015, 18:49
$45?????

Think I can wait until it goes on sale.

cheers,
Lane
stansdds
January 15th, 2015, 03:07
As usual, Carenado has released a visually appealing aircraft, but I will wait for some reviews and for a sale before deciding.
Felixthreeone
January 15th, 2015, 05:54
It's often not a bad idea to simply wait for Carenado to issue the first service pack to a new release before purchasing. In my experience, their products are beta tested by the community, and then the most common bugs fixed. Not a good way to run a company, but one could argue that they are still a thriving entity in the FSX/P3D world so they are clearly doing something right.
Christoph_T
January 15th, 2015, 06:15
This bird realy looks great!! I am happy to see that we have a company which is creating busynessjets that we can enjoy!
But to be honest it is a bit expensive in my point of view.
Is it realy necessary that the cost for addons become higher and higher?
Actually I'will think twice about buying something at this price, even if I want to.
Just my thought.
SeanTK
January 15th, 2015, 14:41
Purchased and tried it briefly yesterday. Looks fantastic, but need to do more research to see if it "flies right". I did report one issue to Carenado regarding incorrect ITT readings, which shot through the red-line on startup, and stayed on the red line at idle (then strangely enough dipped briefly while adding power, before climbing back to red at 85% thrust).
Carenado responded with a form-letter email stating that they'll take it into consideration for the Service Pack.

Outside of that though, it seems to be a great aircraft. It even has a pulse landing light system, which I have not yet seen on other addons.
flaviossa
January 15th, 2015, 15:01
Just for information (And not derail the topic), Aerosoft BushHawk and Baytower RV7 has pulse lights :encouragement:
SeanTK
January 15th, 2015, 16:56
Just for information (And not derail the topic), Aerosoft BushHawk and Baytower RV7 has pulse lights :encouragement:

Good to know! I don't have either of those, and I haven't seen that feature widely advertised, thus my original inaccuracy.
For consumers considering this addon, I recommend waiting until the first Service Pack is released to see what state the aircraft is in at that point.
fsafranek
January 16th, 2015, 06:19
I really like Citations. Pretty much has been my favorite bizjet in Flightsim since probably FS98.
But I've got Bill's Learjet in the hanger that isn't even a month old.
I'll wait a while before seriously considering the new Citation II.
:ernaehrung004:
Mach3DS
January 16th, 2015, 07:17
Don't they make their aircraft dual compatible? FSX/P3D? They're probably just trying to account for the additional fact that it will be used in 2 sims most likely. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion. Seems like there are people who buy every thing they put out regardless of quality or price. So good for them for capitalizing on it. I'm not one of those people. They do make some of the most visually beautiful models around. this one looks great as well.
n4gix
January 16th, 2015, 08:32
Just for information (And not derail the topic), Aerosoft BushHawk and Baytower RV7 has pulse lights :encouragement:


I coded the Pulselite (TM) system in the Eaglesoft CII and CJ1 over eight years ago. Hardly anyone ever noticed this (then) exclusive feature. :mixed-smiley-027:
Anneke
January 17th, 2015, 06:01
Oh yes we did and used it extensively :encouragement:
b52bob
January 17th, 2015, 07:01
Not worth the price. Used to buy all their planes, now much too expensive. Would rather buy Lionhearts aircraft.
WarHorse47
January 17th, 2015, 09:37
They definitely need more sales though out the year. Just one in December doesn't cut it for me. I just paid full price for two of their aircraft, and my wallet is still smokin' :biggrin-new:
Cirrus N210MS
January 17th, 2015, 17:07
i will wait for it to come to justflight where i can use store points to get a discount on it :wavey:
Aircanuck
January 18th, 2015, 15:11
Purchased and tried it briefly yesterday. Looks fantastic, but need to do more research to see if it "flies right". I did report one issue to Carenado regarding incorrect ITT readings, which shot through the red-line on startup, and stayed on the red line at idle (then strangely enough dipped briefly while adding power, before climbing back to red at 85% thrust).
Carenado responded with a form-letter email stating that they'll take it into consideration for the Service Pack.

Outside of that though, it seems to be a great aircraft. It even has a pulse landing light system, which I have not yet seen on other addons.

Purchased the Citation today, so far so good,

Quick question - is the pulse landing light system something you've coded or a flick of a switch in the cockpit ? not seeing it on my set up ?
SeanTK
January 18th, 2015, 15:59
Purchased the Citation today, so far so good,

Quick question - is the pulse landing light system something you've coded or a flick of a switch in the cockpit ? not seeing it on my set up ?

See here:
http://i60.tinypic.com/nqxmpu.jpg
Aircanuck
January 18th, 2015, 17:06
.... cheers !
SeanTK
January 26th, 2015, 18:01
Service Pack / Patch 1 has been released.

S550 Citation II FSX/P3D Service Pack 1 20150126

Fixes
ITT over limit
N1 digital readout over 100%
FMS time issue
EHSI layout
Fuel consumption with engines off
TCAS issue
USA flag turned around in some liveries
Autopilot pitch knob adjusted
Some tooltips showing wrong information
Flap mouse manipulation issue
Other minor issues

Improvements
N1 reference box implemented
Gear unlocked light implemented
Flight dynamics improved in climb
Climb, takeoff, landing and other new information added to the Performance document

Customers just have to log into their accounts at carenado.com to get it.
You don t need this service pack if you downloaded the product after January 26th, 2015 1630 GMT
Tim-HH
March 9th, 2015, 06:28
PC Aviator has the Citation on sale right now for only $19,99!

http://www.pcaviator.com/store/product.php?productid=20380&cat=0&page=0&featured=Y

Greetings
Tim
ryanbatc
March 9th, 2015, 07:03
Good price.... it's a decent plane - due to get a navigraph compatible FMS soonish
flibinite
March 9th, 2015, 07:08
$44.95 on my screen
ryanbatc
March 9th, 2015, 07:36
Page is down now hehe
jtrandttr
March 9th, 2015, 08:14
Page is down now hehe

I pulled the trigger on the Majestic Dash 8 this morning, which they had at $17.99. I completed the download and started the install before I went off to work (seemed to accept the authentication just fine).
I see it's now back to $60, so I'll have to wait until I get home to see if the rest of the install went off without a hitch.

Tom
StormILM
March 9th, 2015, 11:09
What was this, some kind of "flash sale" for a few hours or just a glitch??? I saw the price is at regular now.
Tim-HH
March 9th, 2015, 11:45
I guess PC Aviator made a mistake.

Btw. Carenado has released the Navigraph Extension Pack for the S550 Citation II (http://www.carenado.com/CarSite/Portal/index.php).

Greetings
Tim
ryanbatc
March 9th, 2015, 11:51
Majestic for 18?

Darnit I would have jumped on that like white on rice
ejoiner
March 9th, 2015, 12:39
Is a must buy for me as I used to service Citation variants I/II/III back in the day. For now, I will observe comments from initial users & see how they like it while I plan my list of early to mid spring purchases. I was hoping their Hawker 850Xp would have come first but trust me, both will be in my hangar later this spring(after the Hawker comes out).


Carenado always makes great products, but honestly unless it comes tacpack enabled I wont buy it... :biggrin-new: