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dvj
January 9th, 2015, 20:49
Very interesting model from Xtreme Prototypes was just found by me to have been released. Looks complicated from the description.

http://xtremeprototypes.com/en/product_x15a-2_se.asp

- dvj

tommieboy
January 9th, 2015, 22:25
Very interesting model from Xtreme Prototypes was just found by me to have been released. Looks complicated from the description.

http://xtremeprototypes.com/en/product_x15a-2_se.asp

- dvj

Thanks for the heads up. I've been waiting for them to toss the 2D cockpit and provide a VC. Finally got my wish....:santahat:

Tommy

YoYo
January 9th, 2015, 22:43
Cant check any screenies, only thumbnails.

Btw. I like his models!


http://youtu.be/albtqbdmwmg

http://yoyosims.pl/fsx-bell-x-1-xtreme-prototypes

YoYo
January 9th, 2015, 23:43
Ok I see some of screenies in larger option (just click IMAGES in the main screen):

http://xtremeprototypes.com/en/images/x-15a-2_se/X-15A-2_SE_21.jpg

http://xtremeprototypes.com/en/images/x-15a-2_se/X-15A-2_SE_06.jpg

http://xtremeprototypes.com/en/images/x-15a-2_se/X-15A-2_SE_12.jpg

http://xtremeprototypes.com/en/images/x-15a-2_se/X-15A-2_SE_18.jpg

YoYo
January 9th, 2015, 23:46
http://xtremeprototypes.com/en/images/x-15a-2_se/X-15A-2_SE_19.jpg

http://xtremeprototypes.com/en/images/x-15a-2_se/X-15A-2_SE_13.jpg

http://xtremeprototypes.com/en/images/x-15a-2_se/X-15A-2_SE_03.jpg

http://xtremeprototypes.com/en/images/x-15a-2_se/X-15A-2_SE_15.jpg

mgchrist5
January 10th, 2015, 04:18
That really does look spectacular. The fact that they throw in the X-1 package for free is even better. Lot's of tempting switches and gizmos for us 'systems' fanatics...

What are the opinions from those who've purchased so far? The price is a little steep, but it does look very well done. I'm assuming lots of short, terrifying flights are to be made!

dvj
January 10th, 2015, 08:24
That really does look spectacular. The fact that they throw in the X-1 package for free is even better. Lot's of tempting switches and gizmos for us 'systems' fanatics...

What are the opinions from those who've purchased so far? The price is a little steep, but it does look very well done. I'm assuming lots of short, terrifying flights are to be made!

have not purchased yet, but I do have their Bell X-1 and it's quite excellent. Even comes with a B-29 carrier for simulated air drops. From the descriptions, this is definitely a systems sim and the screens look amazingly detailed.

dvj
January 10th, 2015, 08:30
Went to purchase as the product descriptions seem compelling. You can de-select the X-1 in the shopping card, dropping the X-15 price to a more reasonable $33. But then it reverted to $45 on the re-calc. weird.

-d

Barfly
January 10th, 2015, 11:05
I made the same ordering mistake..... removed the complimentary X1, saw the price decrease, then paid full price for the pair. Perhaps Xtreme customer service will allow us to receive the X1 as that was part of this special.

For anyone interested in the X15 program, this is a spectacularly in-depth and visually impressive sim! I did one flight from Edwards up to 200,000+ ft, then landed in El Toro several minutes later. With "Auto Start" cheat, you still get to see all of the checklist items completed in real time in the cockpit, it's quite detailed. It did feel a bit "Evil Kneivel jumps the snake river-ish" without getting into what actually what is going on, but I'm inspired to dig and see how it all works. A rare thing in flight sim I think! Sub-orbital / thin atmosphere flight using gas thrust for control was convincing.....

Pics and further thoughts later...... tried it in P3D only, with ASN and REX soft clouds; very convincing view of earth and weather from 150k plus.

odourboy
January 10th, 2015, 13:44
Oh my. That does look like spectacular! I'm reluctant to pull the trigger on such a beast though at that price since for me it's a niche aircraft. I'll watch the opinions and reviews for now.:encouragement:

Mach3DS
January 10th, 2015, 14:08
Wow, I can't believe this just came up...I was just talking offline with odourboy (I think?) About how I'd love to see a new X-15 native for FSX/P3D! and Voila! I've been watching X-15 videos the past 3 days also...I literally an hour ago just reinstalled my X-15-2/3 haha! so that's very coincidental!

fsxar177
January 10th, 2015, 14:11
I'm very interested to see the depth of the systems...

SH427
January 10th, 2015, 14:27
I had a buddy that has one and it was...deep. Oceanic. There's a quick start button but that's for those who want to pay 45 dollars to hear a rocket engine

YoYo
January 10th, 2015, 15:03
I'm pretty sure than XP did again very good job. It isn't only addon too, its a big part of aviation history. I like this kind od spirit in addons to our sim.
Feedback? Will be difficult from one week after, I think its a addon for learning of all systems ect. more than 1 week but for example for X-1 XP did very good manual and scenarios.
It looks like it is present here too. Here is a "magic key" for fast fly but I don't like this kind facilitation :mixed-smiley-010:, so get ready to learn.

dvj
January 10th, 2015, 21:33
Got it, ouch, expensive. But as YoYo stated, your stepping into aviation history with lots of system simulation. The visuals are stunning. The manual is a good place to start. And it's very detailed inside and out. The magic key provides the instant experience, but the real test is the air drop and ending at Edwards. My only complaint is going to be that the X-Plane version when it arrives will have a B-52 carrier.

Another happy landing....

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2015/01/11/USYRm.jpg

YoYo
January 11th, 2015, 01:31
Me still on the ground ; ).

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/X-15/X-15_2_zps220fb268.jpg~original

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/X-15/X-15_5_zps89bb7ff0.jpg~original

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/X-15/X-15_3_zps5107f77c.jpg~original

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/X-15/X-15_4_zpsb7e9a723.jpg~original

Btw. the cocpit is very small, I must move eye point back in the VC (FOV reason).

Regards!

ejoiner
January 11th, 2015, 09:25
Very nice video YoYo! This kind of flying isnt my cup of tea really because its the same mission over and over. But very cool to watch you do it!

rayhere48
January 11th, 2015, 11:01
Can't wait to see a video of this new gen aircraft. Hope some one will do a video soon. Man it is expensive, but sure would love to have it.

Javis
January 11th, 2015, 12:01
Very nice video YoYo!

+ 1 ! :encouragement:


This kind of flying isnt my cup of tea really because its the same mission over and over. But very cool to watch you do it!

From the earlier XP X-15-2/3 and Bell X-1* packs i've learned that the beauty of these products resides very much in the educational department. " Always wanted to know everything about the X-1 and X-15 rocket powered spaceflight research projects but were afraid to ask ? "... Then this is deffinately what you want. Can't get any better than this !

Become acquainted with the many systems of these iconic machines by reading the comprehensive manuals from cover to cover ( and not only once.. ) and the reward you'll get is hard to describe. Both these packages ( and no doubt this goes for the new edition as well ) are done in such meticulous way that the real manuals can be used to operate them.

(f.i. http://www.sierrafoot.org/x-15/documents/X-15_Flight_Manual.html )

Like in the real world these extraordinairy research aircraft cannot be compared with anything else in FSX neither. IMHO the Xtreme Prototypes development team is to be wholeheartedly applauded for not only making them available in our beloved virtual flying world but doing it in such comprehensive and meticulous way as well. These are the ultimate "And now for something completely different " type of flying machines. These are flying laboratories. The XP dev team knew that full well and so will you if you dare to take up the challenge. It's worth it !! :encouragement:

Montie
January 11th, 2015, 13:19
It looks tempting, the pricetag however, will keep me sidelined for now. The best thing about this release is to see that they are still alive and developing.

Katoun
January 12th, 2015, 05:27
Hi,

We would very much like to know who runs this company now. If anyone knows, please PM me.

Thank you.

Kat

PRB
January 12th, 2015, 17:49
... There's a quick start button but that's for those who want to pay 45 dollars to hear a rocket engine

Ok, that was funny... :)

From the posted pics, this plane looks amazing. I just finished a book called "The Smell of Kerosine, a Test Pilot's Odyssey" by this guy Mallick. He was a NASA test pilot during the X-15 days. He didn't get to fly it, but many of his test pilot buddies did, and he has some interesting stories about it. The seat looks small. The part you put your butt on. It looks short, like half a seat. But I Googled for some photos, and that's pretty much what it looks like. Amazing.

http://prbdatasystems.com/books/Mallick.jpg

YoYo
January 12th, 2015, 21:49
Btw.

Here no "normal" manual in pdf, just something like help-website after login with active links, pictures ect.

http://xtremeprototypes.com/en/images/x-15a-2_se/X-15A-2_SE_56.jpg

dvj
January 12th, 2015, 22:42
Btw.

Here no "normal" manual in pdf, just something like help-website after login with active links, pictures ect.

http://xtremeprototypes.com/en/images/x-15a-2_se/X-15A-2_SE_56.jpg



The manual is excellent. They even call out known issues with FSX and P3D v.2 before you complain about them. Time to get out the slide rule and calculate the time, speed and distance to Edwards from the drop zone. It's a bit tricky because when you drop, you have to initiate the systems and get the booster ignited. Then wham, you are on for a ride. Booster cut, then the long glide and decent to Edwards.

YoYo
January 13th, 2015, 08:24
@dvj, You are probably the fast man in SOH now :wavey:.

:D (Im still on the ground)

YoYo
January 16th, 2015, 13:45
Btw.

They added the new installer. From XP webpage:

Now fully compatible with Microsoft® Flight Simulator X: Steam® Edition!

dvj
January 16th, 2015, 13:49
Wow, wish I had done these. Fabulous set of X-15 screenies over at the Orbx screenshot forum from Richard Louis. http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/91161-x15-a-fabulous-adventure/

Gibbage
January 16th, 2015, 20:47
Jaw dropping detail! :jawdrop: Amazing work guys!

YoYo
January 16th, 2015, 22:39
Wow, wish I had done these. Fabulous set of X-15 screenies over at the Orbx screenshot forum from Richard Louis. http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/91161-x15-a-fabulous-adventure/

Agree very nice screenies (edited for sure). I had no time still for X-15, so it is in my hangar but will be the next :wavey: .

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/392460401.jpg

jymp
January 17th, 2015, 09:34
Would like to see them develop a B-52 that would carry the 15 as well as a HL-10 addon

YoYo
January 17th, 2015, 09:48
Would like to see them develop a B-52 that would carry the 15 as well as a HL-10 addon

Something like this? ;)

http://yoyosims.pl/sites/default/files/Obrazki/FSX/B52Driver/X-15_Launch.jpg http://yoyosims.pl/sites/default/files/Obrazki/FSX/B52Driver/X-15_Launch2.jpg

Btw.
More info about B-52 & X-plane is one XP webpage: http://xtremeprototypes.com/en/faq_x15a2SE.asp .

YoYo
January 17th, 2015, 11:30
The cockpit of X-15 is very small, so if You take a zoom out for to see for example more instruments You will see big holes (on widescreen monitors). I did a very small modifictaition of pilot view, I think now is a little better and no this holes on the top and the view is on the center now.
You can use it in aircraft.cfg in each model if You like it.

[Views]
//eyepoint=19.050,0.000,2.260 //oryginal
eyepoint=18.880,-0.025,2.155
zoom=0.50


http://images70.fotosik.pl/530/bb6dd46fc0673b1a.jpg

http://images68.fotosik.pl/531/7466e5548aedec1a.jpg

http://images67.fotosik.pl/533/b1b06779e10d60fc.jpg

You can use it only if You have in Your FSX.cfg:

[Display]
WideViewAspect=True

YoYo
February 1st, 2015, 01:05
Question for users of X-15 2.0 in FSX (in P3D no this issue).

I have excellent FPS with X-15 2.0 in FSX and P3D but I noticed strange thing. Developer can't duplicate this issue, so its only on my spec? Id like to know :).

After some of testing - I have a problem in VC with X-15 2.0 in FSX if I touch a mouse (the pointer - arrow - of mouse is present on the screen).

If the arrow of mouse is present on the screen and I'm in VC - I receive FPS drop (from stable 36 - blocked - to 22-27 fps only) for this 10-15 seconds. If the arrow of mouse disappears FPS back to normal (stable 36 again). No problems with other addons like this - stable 36 fps with arrow of mouse on the screen.
Hmmm, strange..... So always if I'd like to touch something by mouse in VC in X-15 2.0 FSX to operate something - fps drop:

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/mouseissue_zps4d207cd6.png (http://s921.photobucket.com/user/rafikst/media/mouseissue_zps4d207cd6.png.html)

I checked mouse settings, turn off the shadow and did changes to simply "old" mouse from Win XP, not from Aero Win7 - always the same fps drop in X-15/FSX version, so looks only than problem is connection of VC X-15 2.0 and mouse?
Do You notice the same issue?

dvj
February 1st, 2015, 09:04
Question for users of X-15 2.0 in FSX (in P3D no this issue).

I have excellent FPS with X-15 2.0 in FSX and P3D but I noticed strange thing. Developer can't duplicate this issue, so its only on my spec? Id like to know :).

After some of testing - I have a problem in VC with X-15 2.0 in FSX if I touch a mouse (the pointer - arrow - of mouse is present on the screen).

If the arrow of mouse is present on the screen and I'm in VC - I receive FPS drop (from stable 36 - blocked - to 22-27 fps only) for this 10-15 seconds. If the arrow of mouse disappears FPS back to normal (stable 36 again). No problems with other addons like this - stable 36 fps with arrow of mouse on the screen.
Hmmm, strange..... So always if I'd like to touch something by mouse in VC in X-15 2.0 FSX to operate something - fps drop:

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/mouseissue_zps4d207cd6.png (http://s921.photobucket.com/user/rafikst/media/mouseissue_zps4d207cd6.png.html)

I checked mouse settings, turn off the shadow and did changes to simply "old" mouse from Win XP, not from Aero Win7 - always the same fps drop in X-15/FSX version, so looks only than problem is connection of VC X-15 2.0 and mouse?
Do You notice the same issue?


Confirmed. ~12 FPS drop when the mouse cursor enters the VC.

YoYo
September 10th, 2015, 05:50
Hi,

FYI, new manual in pdf version. Info from newspaper:

NEW PRINTABLE PDF MANUAL FOR X-15A-2 SPECIAL EDITION
(voir français plus bas)

As a valued customer who purchased some of our FSX addons in the past, we thought you'd like to know that we have just released a 270-page printable PDF manual for our X-15A-2 Special Edition addon.

Requests came from users who appreciated the features of the online manual but still preferred to use a printed document. They now have access to both the PDF manual and the online help system.