Question: Post WW2 UK GA planes

[Mick]

I'm working on recreating my post-WW2 sim "FS1954 - A Half Century of Flight" which is meant to depict the FS world of the late 1940s and early 1950s. I want to add a touch that I neglected in my original version, a set of General Aviation AI planes to populate the British Isles as substitutes for the American aircraft that appear worldwide in the stock FS9 AI scheme.

I did this in Golden Wings, and while it was very tedious to separate and extract all the UK flight plans to make a new set of Traffic Tools files, the result was well worth the effort. Selecting the aircraft to use was easy, since we have such a plethora of Golden Age British light aircraft. I simply made AI versions of appropriate planes and substituted them in all the UK flight plans.

Selecting aircraft for the post-WW2 era is more challenging because I just don't know what GA planes were plentiful (if any) in the UK in those years. I can think of a number of possibilities, but I'm guessing. Were there still a lot of DH Moths and other Thirties types around, or where they all requisitioned int o the RAF and used up as liaison and utility types during the war? Were a lot of wartime trainers, like Tiger Moths and Magisters sold onto the civilian market? How about imported American types?

I'd like to do pretty much a one for one replacement of the stock AI aircraft (Cessna 172, Piper Cub and Cherokee, Beech Baron, DC-3, etc.) - excluding, of course, the exclusively pre-war types like the Vimy, Comet, Spirit of St. Louis and such.

I'm only concerned with General Aviation types. I can manage the airliners easily enough by using the worldwide California Classics airline AI with the more modern types, like the turboprops, replaced by planes like DC-3s, DC-4s, Vikings and Yorks.

I would welcome any informed suggestions for my post-WW2 UK GA AI fleet.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

[kikas]

Austers, lots of them:jump:
Seriously everything from Mr. Molyneaux, Mr. Paine and Mr. Ted Cook will be just perfect, though those are not dedicated ai planes and sadly most of those gems were in britsim

[Mick]

Austers, lots of them:jump:
Seriously everything from Mr. Molyneaux, Mr. Paine and Mr. Ted Cook will be just perfect, though those are not dedicated ai planes and sadly most of those gems were in britsim

Thank you! I meant to ask if there were a lot of Austers around in those days. I have all those planes from those modelers, and it won't be hard to make AI versions of them. I just don't feel very confident in figuring out which ones are most appropriate to use.

How about DH types, like the Fox Moth, Dragon Rapide, and all those single engined Moths? I know the Rapide was around well into the fifties and beyond, and I have plenty of fifties paints for it, but how about the others? I've been happily downloading paints for David Molyneaux's new Fox Moth, though I haven't installed the plane yet. (Gotta get the sim ready before I get too crazy about new planes for it.)

I especially look forward for flying again in Classic Scotland, which is my adaptation of Froggy's Vintage Scotland modified to reflect the post-war period.

When I was active in the hobby with my previous confuter and FS installations I made AI versions of some of those planes specifically for Classic Scotland, and I still have them. I still have all the planes and sceneries I had before; I just have to work up a functioning sim to put them in. But I don't want to just recreate what I had before - this time I want it to be better.

[kikas]

Thank you! I meant to ask if there were a lot of Austers around in those days. I have all those planes from those modelers, and it won't be hard to make AI versions of them. I just don't feel very confident in figuring out which ones are most appropriate to use.

How about DH types, like the Fox Moth, Dragon Rapide, and all those single engined Moths? I know the Rapide was around well into the fifties and beyond, and I have plenty of fifties paints for it, but how about the others? I've been happily downloading paints for David Molyneaux's new Fox Moth, though I haven't installed the plane yet. (Gotta get the sim ready before I get too crazy about new planes for it.)

I especially look forward for flying again in Classic Scotland, which is my adaptation of Froggy's Vintage Scotland modified to reflect the post-war period.

When I was active in the hobby with my previous confuter and FS installations I made AI versions of some of those planes specifically for Classic Scotland, and I still have them. I still have all the planes and sceneries I had before; I just have to work up a functioning sim to put them in. But I don't want to just recreate what I had before - this time I want it to be better.
I think there was some sort of import ban on foreign airplanes to protect local aviation industry, thats why all those vintage Tiger Moths, or Provosts were flying so long in UK, or Australia.
Could you direct me to that Vintage Scotland scenery?

[Motormouse]

As well as Austers, Miles, de Havilland, don't forget demobbed military types.

Ttfn

Pete

[Dev One]

Or Percivals of course, although I don't think the Prentice & the Provost made it until the late 60's, & the Prentice was not really used by many civil owners. There were a few other UK makes around, usually singletons but not many have been modelled. Comper Swifts come to mind as being modelled, but so far no BA Eagles, or the two Mosscraft & the Arrow Active II. Must be some I've forgotten....must be my age....
If you need help for my kites, PM me.
Keith

[Mick]

... Could you direct me to that Vintage Scotland scenery?

It's in several parts. You can get them all at The Old Hangar Downloads:

http://oldhangararchive.jrwilliamsart.us/ (http://oldhangararchive.jrwilliamsart.us/)

On the download list look for these:

Note that some titles are similar, but the descriptions show that the contents are different.
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New Scottish Airfields

Islay, Scotland, A part of the Vintage Scotland Series
by Froggy & Leyland Spurr

1930's Duich Farm Aerodrome and Loch Indaal/Bowmore Seaplane port
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1930’s Glasgow Aerodromes - Renfrew and Abbotsinch

- continuing our "Vintage Scotland" theme for GW3

by Froggy and Leyland Spurr
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New Scottish Airfields

By Froggy and Leyland Spurr

1930's Inverness (Longman), Wick (Hillhead) and Kirkwall (Grimsetter) Aerodromes
continuing the "Vintage Scotland" series for GW3
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Three New Vintage Scotland Airports

by Froggy

Plockton (http://oldhangararchive.jrwilliamsart.us/ziparchive/UK10%20-%20Plockton.zip), Aberdeen-Dyce (http://oldhangararchive.jrwilliamsart.us/ziparchive/EGPD%20-%20Aberdeen_Dyce.zip), Edinburgh (http://oldhangararchive.jrwilliamsart.us/ziparchive/EGPH_Edinburgh_Turnhouse.zip)
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Vintage Scotland

by Froggy

Bowness-on-Windermere Seaplane Base

Tiree

Isle of Skye

[kikas]

It's in several parts. You can get them all at The Old Hangar Downloads:

http://oldhangararchive.jrwilliamsart.us/ (http://oldhangararchive.jrwilliamsart.us/)

On the download list look for these:

Note that some titles are similar, but the descriptions show that the contents are different.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
New Scottish Airfields

Islay, Scotland, A part of the Vintage Scotland Series
by Froggy & Leyland Spurr

1930's Duich Farm Aerodrome and Loch Indaal/Bowmore Seaplane port
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1930’s Glasgow Aerodromes - Renfrew and Abbotsinch

- continuing our "Vintage Scotland" theme for GW3

by Froggy and Leyland Spurr
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
New Scottish Airfields

By Froggy and Leyland Spurr

1930's Inverness (Longman), Wick (Hillhead) and Kirkwall (Grimsetter) Aerodromes
continuing the "Vintage Scotland" series for GW3
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Three New Vintage Scotland Airports

by Froggy

Plockton (http://oldhangararchive.jrwilliamsart.us/ziparchive/UK10%20-%20Plockton.zip), Aberdeen-Dyce (http://oldhangararchive.jrwilliamsart.us/ziparchive/EGPD%20-%20Aberdeen_Dyce.zip), Edinburgh (http://oldhangararchive.jrwilliamsart.us/ziparchive/EGPH_Edinburgh_Turnhouse.zip)
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Vintage Scotland

by Froggy

Bowness-on-Windermere Seaplane Base

Tiree

Isle of Skye
Thank you, some very good stuff over there