Wanted: VA-205 Green Falcons A-7's from NAS Atlanta mid 70s

[ejoiner]

Anybody know if there is a razbam A-7 livery for this bird? These flew around Atlanta in the 1970's. There was one infamous moment with these guys as well. An A-7 with an emergency engine out crashed into an Apartment complex killing some folks. The apartment buildings were relatively close to the NAS Atlanta base at Dobbins AFB/Lockheed Georgia complex. Was close enough to cause the Blue Angels not to fly in Atlanta for several years thereafter.

Anyway, I have fond memories of these planes. Is there a scheme? Duckie, do you know?

http://www.amv83.fr/Asm/Sig/usa/USNAVY/A7/va205bicent.jpg


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[Duckie]

If I could open the paint kit you'd have one! :banghead:

Seems my PSP has run it's course! Razbam used layer groups and my PSP doesn't support Groups so can't open the layers...

I don't use Gimp, just cant get it to work for me. Oh, well.

[strikehawk]

Talk to Warhawk1130 and see if he can do one for you as he was the one that pumped out a lot of repaints when RAZBAM released this bird.

[Navy Chief]

One can never have too many SLUF repaints! NC

[ejoiner]

Talk to Warhawk1130 and see if he can do one for you as he was the one that pumped out a lot of repaints when RAZBAM released this bird.

Warhawk, Rsgunner or Zsoltquack... any of them! I wasnt aware there was a paint kit. I have photoshop, so I could do it myself I suppose.

[DaveB]

Eric..

The A-7 installer is a bit different to all the others. It puts the PK in the RAZBAM folder inside FSX. I only stumbled over it by accident recently!

ATB
DaveB:)

[ejoiner]

Warhawk, Rsgunner or Zsoltquack... any of them! I wasnt aware there was a paint kit. I have photoshop, so I could do it myself I suppose.

Hi All, I figured I would join in the fun and create this repaint myself. My work has been very heavy lately, so didnt think I would get to this, but I got to messing around with it this afternoon and it turned out pretty well. Still some other tweaking to do.

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[delta_lima]

Looking good Eric!

All I'd say is that your photos show the A-7A/B, whilst your repaint is on the E model .... I'm guessing maybe you don't have Vol 2? No biggie if you don't have that pack - I like what you've done on this paint, and I'd fly it any day!

dl

[ejoiner]

Looking good Eric!

All I'd say is that your photos show the A-7A/B, whilst your repaint is on the E model .... I'm guessing maybe you don't have Vol 2? No biggie if you don't have that pack - I like what you've done on this paint, and I'd fly it any day!

dl

I painted it on an E because thats the pack and artwork I have, but this VA also flew the E.

[Duckie]

Looks good,Eric. Still messing around with paint programs. Played with PSP X7 trial version a while last night and will probably pull the trigger today. Took a look a what you sent and don't know if I could have improved on it. It looks even better on the model.

Nice job. :encouragement:

[expat]

Nice work Eric. Could be my typically male color blindness playing tricks with dark colors but your photos of the tail design look green whereas in your screenshots of your repaint they seem black - at least to my ageing eyes ..

http://www.flickr.com/photos/68520613@N06/10668656183

http://web.fc2.com/jump/?url=http://mokeialfa155.web.fc2.com/images_gallery/pic060.jpg

[ejoiner]

Nice work Eric. Could be my typically male color blindness playing tricks with dark colors but your photos of the tail design look green whereas in your screenshots of your repaint they seem black - at least to my ageing eyes ..

http://www.flickr.com/photos/68520613@N06/10668656183

http://web.fc2.com/jump/?url=http://mokeialfa155.web.fc2.com/images_gallery/pic060.jpg

The tail color is green. probably just an issue with time of day and the shot I took.

[skyhawka4m]

Va-204 river rattlers!!!

[delta_lima]

Looks good Eric!

As far as I know, the E did not come until the transitional/TPS low vis schemes, so the high vis shown would only have been seen on the B at latest. But again, it will be very welcome. I wondered too about the colour, but noticed that the hue looked different between the screens - so I'm guessing you've nailed it.

I really like that you did a line bird.

Looked for some helmet references - alas, didn't find any.

Should be a keeper scheme - thanks for your work! :ernaehrung004:


dl

[Navy Chief]

Looks good Eric!

As far as I know, the E did not come until the transitional/TPS low vis schemes, so the high vis shown would only have been seen on the B at latest. But again, it will be very welcome. I wondered too about the colour, but noticed that the hue looked different between the screens - so I'm guessing you've nailed it.

I really like that you did a line bird.

Looked for some helmet references - alas, didn't find any.

Should be a keeper scheme - thanks for your work! :ernaehrung004:


dl

Do you mean VA-205 E models never had the hi-viz, or E models in general? The rest of the fleet E models definitely had hi-viz until the early 80s! NC

[delta_lima]

Do you mean VA-205 E models never had the hi-viz, or E models in general? The rest of the fleet E models definitely had hi-viz until the early 80s! NC

Speaking only of VA-205. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Some active front line units got their Es as early as Vietnam, around shortly before Linebacker ..:encouragement:

[ejoiner]

Do you mean VA-205 E models never had the hi-viz, or E models in general? The rest of the fleet E models definitely had hi-viz until the early 80s! NC

The E models didnt have the flashing on the rudder. Rest of the high visibility scheme was present. by the way, I uploaded both the standard squadron bird and the CAG bird to flightsim.com. (I just find their upload methodology easier.)

Eric

[delta_lima]

Just saw these on flightsim ... :) .... on my iPhone, as I'm starting work ... :( ....

Needless to say, it's going to be a long day ...

Thanks so much Eric!

dl

[delta_lima]

Nice repaint Eric - did a few patterns tonight in it!

Thanks!

dl

[rsgunner]

Eric


Great repaints.


Russ

[Duckie]

Great looking birds, Eric. Thank you. :encouragement: :encouragement:

[ejoiner]

Great looking birds, Eric. Thank you. :encouragement: :encouragement:

Thanks guys. Yall are some impressive company to keep. :wavey:

Duckie, now we gotta get hold of the Milviz F-100D and paint that sucker as a 116th TFW GA ANG bird. I got to sit in and fly the GA guard simulator for that airplane a few times. Neighbor across the street was Col Don Hubbard who was a commander with that squadron in the late 70's. This was right before they switched to the F-105G.

[ejoiner]

Great looking birds, Eric. Thank you. :encouragement: :encouragement:


One question guys. I noticed a small error in the CAG bird repaint. There is not supposed to be the black anti glare panel extended onto the white radome in this particular repaint. Where can you find the bit of black that extends onto the radome in this paintkit?

EDIT: Nevermind... figured it out! will be a very minor update to this skin set that I will post as a link here later.

[Duckie]

Thanks guys. Yall are some impressive company to keep. :wavey:

Duckie, now we gotta get hold of the Milviz F-100D and paint that sucker as a 116th TFW GA ANG bird. I got to sit in and fly the GA guard simulator for that airplane a few times. Neighbor across the street was Col Don Hubbard who was a commander with that squadron in the late 70's. This was right before they switched to the F-105G.

I was actually in the Army Guard OV-1 unit (159th Avn Co.) stationed at Dobbins when the Air Guard began swapping their C-124s for F-100s! Talk about culture shock! It was really fun watching the Marine F-8s and that first F-100F and occasionally get to taxi with one if we were flying the same weekend. That "F" was the only one they had for a long time.

[ejoiner]

I was actually in the Army Guard OV-1 unit (159th Avn Co.) stationed at Dobbins when the Air Guard began swapping their C-124s for F-100s! Talk about culture shock! It was really fun watching the Marine F-8s and that first F-100F and occasionally get to taxi with one if we were flying the same weekend. That "F" was the only one they had for a long time.

I remember those OV-1's. :-)

I was not aware that the Marine det at NAS Atlanta had F-8's!!! Some years later, I got to know some folks with the Marine squadron (VMFA-142 Flying Gators as I recall). and got to fly their FA-18 simulator as well. that was cool. That was in the 1990's.

EDIT: Ok.. did some googling. Marines VMF-351 flew F-8K's out of NAS Atlanta. One photo I found showed a bicentennial tail meaning that NAS Atlanta has Navy A-7's and Marine F-8's on the same ramp in the early 70's? How'd I miss that?

[Duckie]

I remember those OV-1's. :-)

I was not aware that the Marine det at NAS Atlanta had F-8's!!! Some years later, I got to know some folks with the Marine squadron (VMFA-142 Flying Gators as I recall). and got to fly their FA-18 simulator as well. that was cool. That was in the 1990's.

The F-8s were actually shared between the Navy and Marines. Some still had the old NAVY/MARINE markings on the fuselage. F-8s just "looked fast", and were! And loud! Get a pair of those running up in burner before brakes off, and the sight of the raised variable incident wing, the senses were just flooded taking it all in!

Before our unit moved from KFTY to KMGE there was a fatal accident where the wing fold mechanism of an F-8 failed on take off and it rolled in on the runway. The pilot tried to eject but too late.

[delta_lima]

I remember those OV-1's. :-)

I was not aware that the Marine det at NAS Atlanta had F-8's!!!

... and a darn nice paint scheme they wore, too ....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/F-8K_Crusaders_of_VMF-351_parked.jpeg

Back on topic ... Eric, the paint's started peeling off your '205 scheme ... been flying it non-stop this weekend ... :applause:

[ejoiner]

... and a darn nice paint scheme they wore, too ....


Back on topic ... Eric, the paint's started peeling off your '205 scheme ... been flying it non-stop this weekend ... :applause:

Found that picture as well. Wish there was a top quality F-8 out there now. I have the old AS version, but its old.

And glad you like my little birds. Since the paint is worn, heres the update I promised for the CAG bird 76 livery (http://ejoiner.typepad.com/va205_A7_update.zip). This just updates a couple of accuracy issues.

Enjoy!

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[delta_lima]

Found that picture as well. Wish there was a top quality F-8 out there now. I have the old AS version, but its old.

And glad you like my little birds. Since the paint is worn, heres the update I promised for the CAG bird 76 livery (http://ejoiner.typepad.com/va205_A7_update.zip). This just updates a couple of accuracy issues.

Enjoy!

E

Ah yes, the lament for an update Cru has been sung by so many, for so long .... pre DX10, both the AS/V and Rollus versions worked just lovely. Post DX10, the Rollus just has too many issues, and the AS/V, with the latest DX10 fixer a few days ago, my canopy went all opaque and buggered, plus I can't get Jafo's cockpit enhancements to work, even though I sprung for a wide-format monitor ... :banghead: I think I'm just going to have to cut the lines on that one, and simply enjoy the memories in FS9 and early FSX days.

That said, Sylvain (Sprouty) from Royale French Navy are working on an F-8E (FN) - been a while since an update though ...

Thanks for the paint Eric - will it work on the line bird? I'm at work, and won't be at my sim pc for a couple of days....

cheers,

dl

[ejoiner]

Ah yes, the lament for an update Cru has been sung by so many, for so long .... pre DX10, both the AS/V and Rollus versions worked just lovely. Post DX10, the Rollus just has too many issues, and the AS/V, with the latest DX10 fixer a few days ago, my canopy went all opaque and buggered, plus I can't get Jafo's cockpit enhancements to work, even though I sprung for a wide-format monitor ... :banghead: I think I'm just going to have to cut the lines on that one, and simply enjoy the memories in FS9 and early FSX days.

That said, Sylvain (Sprouty) from Royale French Navy are working on an F-8E (FN) - been a while since an update though ...

Thanks for the paint Eric - will it work on the line bird? I'm at work, and won't be at my sim pc for a couple of days....

cheers,

dl


The update just fixes a couple of minor details on the CAG bird that I missed. Nothing major and dont apply to the line bird. BTW, the original pics i put in this thread show E model aircraft in pics 2, 4 and 5. I painted the earlier B livery because of the flashier rudder.

I might do the all gray bird as well just complete the set.

[delta_lima]

The update just fixes a couple of minor details on the CAG bird that I missed. Nothing major and dont apply to the line bird. BTW, the original pics i put in this thread show E model aircraft in pics 2, 4 and 5. I painted the earlier B livery because of the flashier rudder.

I might do the all gray bird as well just complete the set.


Huh - on all pics I see the 2 small Colt Mk 12 gun ports (1 per side) and no distinctive single big M61A1 bulge on any of the portside shots ... and since VA-205 didn't get their Es until 1984 (http://www.history.navy.mil/download/va175209.pdf, p. 270), it seems like Es were painted TPS ...dunno ... I'm probably missing something :dizzy:

Anyway, thanks for confirm the file issue. If you do that transitional scheme, I'll fly the pants of it too. Those early '80s schemes were vary short-lived, very rare, but there's something lovely interesting about them, to me at least. Forrestal and Midway Phantoms flew similar schemes, and they look smart. By 1983, you could really see where the paint direction was going ... these are VA-56 birds off Midway CVW-5 ...

http://www.seaforces.org/usnair/VA/Attack-Squadron-56-Dateien/image026.jpg

http://www.seaforces.org/usnair/VA/Attack-Squadron-56-Dateien/image022.jpg


cheers,

dl

[ejoiner]

Huh - on all pics I see the 2 small Colt Mk 12 gun ports (1 per side) and no distinctive single big M61A1 bulge on any of the portside shots ... and since VA-205 didn't get their Es until 1984 (http://www.history.navy.mil/download/va175209.pdf, p. 270), it seems like Es were painted TPS ...dunno ... I'm probably missing something :dizzy:

Anyway, thanks for confirm the file issue. If you do that transitional scheme, I'll fly the pants of it too. Those early '80s schemes were vary short-lived, very rare, but there's something lovely interesting about them, to me at least. Forrestal and Midway Phantoms flew similar schemes, and they look smart. By 1983, you could really see where the paint direction was going ... these are VA-56 birds off Midway CVW-5 ...

cheers,

dl

Uploading to flightsim.com tomorrow. (I like their upload tool better than SOH.)

http://ejoiner.typepad.com/screenshots/VA205_A7E_LoViz1.jpg

http://ejoiner.typepad.com/screenshots/VA205_A7E_LoViz2.jpg

http://ejoiner.typepad.com/screenshots/VA205_A7E_LoViz3.jpg

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[delta_lima]

Wow Eric!!

To quote the inimitable Bill and Ted .....

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/webkit-fake-url://7ef69177-88f8-449d-88b1-55530bd8105b/imagejpeg

"MOST EXCELLENT!" ....

dl

[ejoiner]

Hi all, the VA-205 Lo visibility scheme shown above was uploaded this morning to both SOH and Flightsim.com. Check the libs of the respective sites for DL!

Enjoy!
Eric

[Duckie]

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