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Pluto12
September 24th, 2014, 05:24
Hi to all...
in an other post someone asked info about our "PA200 Tornado Project".

I am glad to say that the external model is almost complete, both texturing and modeling...Soon we will concentrate into the internal model (and I will post screenshots of the WIP)

As developer we are proud to announce a total new tecnology in aircrafts' gauges programming.
We have developed this tecnology for our Tornado, and it will be importend also into the new AV8B Plus II (yes.....we are reworking the model), and we will continue to improve it.

I think that it will be a new milestone into system development and a total new immersion into a "Realistic" Flight simulation (for what we can say realistic into a simulation)

Here is the official post we made to launch this tecnology:

"SIM SKUNK WORKS presents "RED PANDA" technology (formerly called "shangri-la') a totally new conception of the virtual cockpit gauges.

In the first video you can see a real moving terrain map (not the digital fs style map) inside our Harrier (the shape of the projection is to simulate the CRT dispaly of our Tornado...and Yes...the new tecnology simulate also the little blurrie effect which is part of a CRT Diplay). The first video is the development in the early stage.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvgHFwnTEks&list=UUEGjBRqsxSdQdktAQyd38XA

In the second video (on the second post) you can see the radar projection over a moving terrain map, notice that the radar follows faithfully the terrain elevation projecting radar shadows as well as you would see on the real thing (into the Tornado..for example)

I hope you enjoy it ;)..and just for information this tecnology is "frame drop free"...it has no impact on frame rates and it is totally compatible and developed for FSX - P3D1.4 and P3D2.3 ;)
Regards
Emanuele

Pluto12
September 24th, 2014, 05:25
Here the second video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT6VL-394aQ&list=UUEGjBRqsxSdQdktAQyd38XA

cortomalteseit
September 24th, 2014, 07:24
Wow, Pluto12! Thank you very much for this great anticipation!
This new technology opens a lot of possibilities, expecially for the military ops fans!
Looking forward to the next videos, I hope to watch a Tornado preview soon!
Ciao!

Daniele/Lupo2

Stickshaker
September 24th, 2014, 11:44
That is a beautiful piece of art!

rezn550
September 24th, 2014, 12:24
Awesome work guys !!!
Makes me wanna spend long time in this cockpit :jump: looks so realistic...

Btw thanks for giving these kind of updates outside your FB page
very much appreciated

spins_vmfa321
September 24th, 2014, 12:49
Man, all I can say is "WOW"!!!

Jamal

Anneke
September 24th, 2014, 12:50
Yeah all very nice, but no help when you can't reach your older purchases.
No login into the ' new' site, no answer to my emails....

:wavey:

Pluto12
September 24th, 2014, 13:08
Yeah all very nice, but no help when you can't reach your older purchases.
No login into the ' new' site, no answer to my emails....

:wavey:

Hi Anneke.....make another registration on the new website, the old login are no longer valid.
Then, in the new website there are new functions such "Support Ticket", you can open a new ticket to recover your purchase ID,
Hope this Help
Emanuele

hae5904
September 24th, 2014, 15:20
"Red Panda" will it work in FSX?? As that is a P3D v2.3 feature?

Hank

Scratch
September 24th, 2014, 16:05
Freaky!!!!

dhazelgrove
September 24th, 2014, 21:35
"Red Panda" will it work in FSX?? As that is a P3D v2.3 feature?

Hank

Answered in the first post of this thread.

Dave

Anneke
September 24th, 2014, 21:56
Hope this Help
Emanuele

Thanks Emanuele will do!

DagR
September 24th, 2014, 23:40
Looks incredible. I'll hold off purchasing the Harrier until it's updated :-)


Best regards
Dag

strykerpsg
September 24th, 2014, 23:54
Pluto, thank you for sharing. Great looking stuff and I'm very much looking forward to the Tornado release with this incorporated into it, as well as your AV8B. Just a few questions or rather observations. First, what scenery is that military base? I really like the hardened air shelters and the crash truck waiting on the taxiway. Second, while I was running fullscreen in 1080p, I noticed the map is shown flipped over, in other words, all the writing is backwards. Is that intentional? Ultimately, I know this is a work in progress, but love the potential it brings this mature simulation.

Regards,
Matt

PS, the inverted map was only in the 1st video, the 2nd has it right.

findus
September 25th, 2014, 00:43
A really awesome improvement of moving map / radar display!!!
Is the elevation modell for your radar reflections and shadows original FSX?
Would it be possible to do some sort of "radar navigation", that was very common used in the old zipper days with radar prediction charts?
As far as I know a mixture of art and science ;-)

Pluto12
September 25th, 2014, 00:47
Pluto, thank you for sharing. Great looking stuff and I'm very much looking forward to the Tornado release with this incorporated into it, as well as your AV8B. Just a few questions or rather observations. First, what scenery is that military base? I really like the hardened air shelters and the crash truck waiting on the taxiway. Second, while I was running fullscreen in 1080p, I noticed the map is shown flipped over, in other words, all the writing is backwards. Is that intentional? Ultimately, I know this is a work in progress, but love the potential it brings this mature simulation.

Regards,
Matt

PS, the inverted map was only in the 1st video, the 2nd has it right.

Hi Matt...
I try to answer to your questions:
1- The Military base in the video is Rimini-Miramare (LIPR) and it is an "User Benefits" for who purchases one of our products.
2- You notice right, but it is as should be a "Moving Map Terrain Radar, the Map are always North Oriented for the description or the writings, so if you have an heading of 180° you will se the writings flipped, (in the video the aircraft has heading 210°) the position aircraft is in the center bottom of the MFD (the "inverted" map is in both video when the aircrafts heads south)

Hope this helps
Regards
Emanuele

strykerpsg
September 25th, 2014, 09:09
Emanuele,

Thanks for the explanation. It makes sense, of sorts....looks great though. I will definitely be getting all of your releases. Great stuff and I appreciate the honest work put into your products!

daisan
September 25th, 2014, 12:23
Amazing...

Pluto12
September 25th, 2014, 12:45
A really awesome improvement of moving map / radar display!!!
Is the elevation modell for your radar reflections and shadows original FSX?
Would it be possible to do some sort of "radar navigation", that was very common used in the old zipper days with radar prediction charts?
As far as I know a mixture of art and science ;-)

Hi Findus...
the elevation model, shadowing and others is part of our new technology, not related to FSX or P3D
About you second question I think It should be possible, even if I have not the radar prediction chards (which cover the last 15 Nm near an airport if I understand well what you mean), but for now, we have not planned to upgrade the F104 with RedPanda Technology, but never say never ;)
Regards
Emanuele

Bjoern
September 25th, 2014, 13:38
Interesting. I can't help but mentally trying to reverse-engineer this. ;)

Wizard
September 25th, 2014, 14:12
Being a developer myself, but primarily of warfare stuff (air,land,sea) I have often wished for the ability to realistically deal with mountains and valleys (shadows of radar). I am wondering if there might be some way of taking the fsx terrain data and use the data as you have to "blank" out the areas behind radar obstructions. My impression to date was that you could not detect altitude of objects other than directly below the aircraft - which obviously can't create a viable map of the area. :dizzy:

My NEUWUC programs, are however, freeware, so I completely understand if you don't want to or can't share how you did this. Feel free to pm me if you wish.

In any case, Bravo Zulu in being able to solve this vexing problem! :applause:

YoYo
September 25th, 2014, 22:36
Very nice! Agree.

findus
September 26th, 2014, 06:56
Hi Findus...
the elevation model, shadowing and others is part of our new technology, not related to FSX or P3D
About you second question I think It should be possible, even if I have not the radar prediction chards (which cover the last 15 Nm near an airport if I understand well what you mean), but for now, we have not planned to upgrade the F104 with RedPanda Technology, but never say never ;)
Regards
Emanuele

Thx for your fast answer!
For the F-104 as far as I know, the radar prediction charts were artificialy created using special photographs of scale terrain models. They were used to help the interpretation of the radar image in conjunction with a normal map and the INS to master the low level navigation.
Are your elevation data used by the terrain following radar of your Tornado?


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dhazelgrove
September 26th, 2014, 07:07
I must confess to being curious about the choice of name.

Why "Red Panda"?

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Dave

Pluto12
September 26th, 2014, 12:10
@Wizard....the range of elevation shadowing is selectable with the radar range (and change also the range of moving map)...and is part of our technology...nothing comes from FSX or P3D...the elevation shadowing is not only below the aircrafts...in the two videos I think that the radar range is 40Nm ;)

@Findus: for sure...the elevation data will be used by the terrain following radar of our Tornado which will be implemented ;)

@DhazelGrove: in reality inside our work-Group at SSW we had called this technology Shangri-la as the city of the novel of James Hilton, "Lost Horizon", which was the new eden and a totally new world, as the technology is, and that city is located in Tibet. When we decided to launch the technolgy we wanted a name more simple also for who have not read the book.....and because in Tibet (where Shangri-la is located) the sacred animal is the red panda, and this animal looks like the skunk we decided for that name.

Regards
Emanuele

Wizard
September 28th, 2014, 07:14
Thanks for the info. Sounds like the same solution I've muddled about with, but you seem to have implemented with more fidelity. :encouragement:

Pluto12
October 1st, 2014, 23:46
Hi guys...
Here a new video of the RED PANDA Technology applied to Tornado HUD
Early test using Harrier as test platform, it shows a short landing approach, note the velocity vector symbol and the attitude indicator that follow the sideslip as should be on the real thing.
Enjoy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzLIHFE66fY&feature=youtu.be

Stickshaker
October 2nd, 2014, 08:41
Interesting video, Pluto, but it seems to me that the HUD is not collimated correctly, in that the horizon line is below the outside world horizon. Or am I missing something? But for the rest it makes me hope that the HUD will not only be included in the Tornado but also in the Harrier.<o:p></o:p>

Pluto12
October 2nd, 2014, 13:08
Interesting video, Pluto, but it seems to me that the HUD is not collimated correctly, in that the horizon line is below the outside world horizon. Or am I missing something? But for the rest it makes me hope that the HUD will not only be included in the Tornado but also in the Harrier.<o:p></o>


Hi StickShaker,
You notice right but that behaviour of the Horizon line is due to the fact that the HUD Pojection you see is calibrated for the Tornado Projection which is different from the Harrier (I mean HUD Glass dimension, distance of the point of view etc...) ;)
You can be sure that the new Harrier HUD with the new tecnlology will be conformal ;)
Regards
Emanuele

Pluto12
October 3rd, 2014, 07:02
Just a couple of things more about the video and the features showed:

- projection lens refraction (the halo It is not a texture or other it is part of the new tecnology)
- HUD font anti-aliasing
- HUD font blurries due to combiner glasses (the combiner glass is a particular feature of the Tornado HUD due to the double HUD glasses...if you will read the manual you will find what is the combiner glasses and what is its peculiarity)
Regards
Emanuele

Stickshaker
October 4th, 2014, 08:00
Thanks for the clarification, Pluto. This is very exciting! I have all your aircraft and am looking forward to the Tornado.<o:p></o:p>