ACG RAF Wattisham [Archive]

Stevo76

July 7th, 2014, 10:13

Hi,

Would just like to introduce our (airfieldconstructiongroup.org) work in progress airfield which is RAF Wattisham set in the 1990's.

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/Bitmap512/Wattisham/HASpolys_day_zpsc5e3d823.jpg (http://s588.photobucket.com/user/Bitmap512/media/Wattisham/HASpolys_day_zpsc5e3d823.jpg.html)

C-Type hangars
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/Bitmap512/Wattisham/C_type1_zps8e4d53a8.jpg (http://s588.photobucket.com/user/Bitmap512/media/Wattisham/C_type1_zps8e4d53a8.jpg.html)

Bloodhound Missile Site
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/Bitmap512/Wattisham/BH1_zpsef53a6be.jpg (http://s588.photobucket.com/user/Bitmap512/media/Wattisham/BH1_zpsef53a6be.jpg.html)

HAS Site

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/Bitmap512/Wattisham/56_2_zpse518218b.jpg (http://s588.photobucket.com/user/Bitmap512/media/Wattisham/56_2_zpse518218b.jpg.html)

Stevo76

July 7th, 2014, 10:13

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o231/3DImages/c82780b241efa717775e5609f5e9b3b1.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o231/3DImages/ffa1edb74d2f260f5c6d189a5b869857.jpg

Stevo
ACG

YoYo

July 7th, 2014, 10:28

Wow! Is it still WIP? Looking very, very nice :).

ZsoltB

July 7th, 2014, 10:32

:applause: :encouragement:

Stevo76

July 7th, 2014, 13:12

Wow! Is it still WIP?.

Anyone who may be a regular visitor or have visited our forum in the past may recall we started RAF Wattisham a few years ago, but it was eventually scrapped. This is a completely new from scratch version started at the beginning of the year with custom AI phantoms and custom built ground polygons....

:)

TARPSBird

July 7th, 2014, 14:16

Holy mackerel, that's beautiful. :encouragement:

ST0RM

July 7th, 2014, 14:43

Holy mackerel, that's beautiful. :encouragement:

+1

Yes, stunning!!

dhazelgrove

July 7th, 2014, 23:16

Ah, the memories.

I hope you won't forget to include 1ACC/TSSU/USST/14SU (all the same place) across the road from Crash Gate 3.

Dave

hschuit

July 8th, 2014, 00:28

Awesome, is that AI Phantom native FSX? Takes be back to June 1992 at the aircraft spotters place on Ware Road near the 74 Sqn taxi track when they mass launched more than 16 jets to do formation flyby's. I never forget the sight and sound of them starting up on the ASP.

DaleRFU

July 8th, 2014, 00:32

Which platform will this be for? FSX or FS9?

Dale

dhazelgrove

July 8th, 2014, 03:38

Which platform will this be for? FSX or FS9?

Dale

The last few ACG offerings have been for both FS9 and FSX and, given the choice of forum.....

The Phantoms might be the Mike Pearson models or, then again, they might be John Young's own.
The 74 Sqn markings seem to be on an FGR2 model, which suggests a fairly late timescale.

This is all after my time there (1978 - 1983), as the HASs were still under construction when I left.
56 Sqn were still using Hangar 1, with 29/23 Sqn using Hangar 2. Both squadrons still parked on the main pan.

Dave

DaveQ

July 8th, 2014, 05:25

Brilliant Guys!!! Looking forward to this :encouragement:!!

DaveQ

Stevo76

July 8th, 2014, 07:17

Hi,

At the moment we have only worked on the FSX version, hence the post here, but a fs9 version is not out of the question, it's easier to convert FSX models backward to FS9 than it is the other way.

It is based in the early 1990's

The Phantoms are native FSX coded, loving built by John Young. John has also built the majority of the airfield buildings such as those on the HAS sites and 50% of the custom ground.

Stevo :)

DaleRFU

July 8th, 2014, 10:25

Cracking stuff. Looking forward to it. How are you finding making the ground poly with ADE, I am yet to give it a go?

Stevo76

July 8th, 2014, 10:57

Hi Dale,

ADE is great for ground polygons and does the job well, however we found the mapping part (applying the texture to the polygon) to be lacking at it current incarnation and found Gmax uvw unwrap to be much better especially around curves which ADE struggled with particularly textures with lines in both direction such as concrete. So all of this polygon was done in gmax.

but ADE and it's ground poly addition is superb and for many reasons the main ones being, having the default runways, taxiways, buildings and the custom ground polys all in one program and no need to use other programs and everything is perfectly aligned.

We compiled the exported Gmax .mdls with model converter x.

Stevo :)

Stevo76

July 16th, 2014, 07:08

Some more screenshots

ASP and Johns AI Phantoms
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/Bitmap512/Wattisham/Central1_zps8fad499c.jpg (http://s588.photobucket.com/user/Bitmap512/media/Wattisham/Central1_zps8fad499c.jpg.html)

We have the crash net up on one end of the runway, while at the other end it's down, the pair switching according to wind direction. Rotation of the PAR and ATC van also works on the same principle.
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/Bitmap512/Wattisham/Net1_zps1754d27a.jpg (http://s588.photobucket.com/user/Bitmap512/media/Wattisham/Net1_zps1754d27a.jpg.html)

This is the 56/74 Sqn flight line:
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/Bitmap512/Wattisham/ASP1_zpsb0ad2210.jpg (http://s588.photobucket.com/user/Bitmap512/media/Wattisham/ASP1_zpsb0ad2210.jpg.html)

John Young also added visiting Phantoms from 19 and 92 Sqns (Widlenwrath Germany), including the two all blue commemorative schemes.

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/Bitmap512/Wattisham/ASP2_zpsaf96d0f1.jpg (http://s588.photobucket.com/user/Bitmap512/media/Wattisham/ASP2_zpsaf96d0f1.jpg.html)

Stevo76

Stevo76

July 16th, 2014, 07:09

The QRA sheds have animated doors. They can be opened/closed by a user key press. We thought that would be useful when the user takes the place of one of the AI QRA Phantoms with a flyable aircraft.
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/Bitmap512/Wattisham/QRA1_zps829dc7a5.jpg (http://s588.photobucket.com/user/Bitmap512/media/Wattisham/QRA1_zps829dc7a5.jpg.html)

The QRA AI Phantoms are programmed as a pair, departing together, using separate overlay AFCADS (AFX):
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/Bitmap512/Wattisham/QRA2_zpsec1c522c.jpg (http://s588.photobucket.com/user/Bitmap512/media/Wattisham/QRA2_zpsec1c522c.jpg.html)

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/Bitmap512/Wattisham/QRA3_zpsd13e0334.jpg (http://s588.photobucket.com/user/Bitmap512/media/Wattisham/QRA3_zpsd13e0334.jpg.html)

All screenshots by John Young

Stevo

ZsoltB

July 16th, 2014, 07:23

Simply I love it!

http://www.zone-five.net/images/smilies/mike.gif

MCDesigns

July 16th, 2014, 08:09

outstanding work!!!

YoYo

July 16th, 2014, 10:01

Yes, it looks like very nice done scenery :applause: !

huub vink

July 16th, 2014, 10:13

What can I add to all the comment already give? The scenery is simply beautiful :applause::applause::applause:

Cheers,
HuUub

ZsoltB

July 18th, 2014, 10:05

QRA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D2wacVbk3A&hd=1

Stevo76

December 19th, 2014, 07:17

Just an update it's been a while.... :)

Beta testing On this has been underway for the last three week and the majority of bugs, errors and irritation have been ironed out....the plan is to release it sometime after xmas, no date yet but I'll post here when there is.....

Video showing the QRA doors in FSX (only)
http://vid719.photobucket.com/albums/ww195/ACGimages/QRAd.mp4

Regards

Stevo ;)

hae5904

December 19th, 2014, 07:26

Thanks Stevo! Looking forward to this.

Cheers

Dumonceau

December 19th, 2014, 08:28

What can be said other than that it is up to usual ACG standards!

Brilliant stuff!

Dumonceau

delta_lima

December 19th, 2014, 08:40

Gorgeous - as with all ACG projects.

Anyone else aching for IRIS's recompiled F-4 (but with a working VC)?

dl

Dumonceau

December 19th, 2014, 08:53

Gorgeous - as with all ACG projects.

Anyone else aching for IRIS's recompiled F-4 (but with a working VC)?

dl

Errr.... YES!!!

So I merged mine with the Milviz Phantom VC and it works a charm!

I would just like a low viz repaint for the model!

Dumonceau

delta_lima

December 19th, 2014, 09:15

I guess the old FS9 textures don't map to the new recompiled beta, huh?

dl

hschuit

December 19th, 2014, 09:34

I guess the old FS9 textures don't map to the new recompiled beta, huh?
dl

Just rename them and make the nose texture grey.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/12/19/gkJmz.jpg

dhazelgrove

December 19th, 2014, 10:30

17010

Dave

fsafranek

December 19th, 2014, 11:26

Stevo76

January 2nd, 2015, 07:12

We are pleased to say that ACG RAF Wattisham scenery and AI packs were uploaded to Avsim early this morning - hopefully in time for their appearance later today.

The files are called:

FS9:
ACG_RAF_Wattisham_1991_FS9_1.zip

ACG_Wattisham_AI_Phantoms_FS9_1.zip

FSX:
ACG_RAF_Wattisham_1991_FSX_1.zip

ACG_Wattisham_AI_Phantoms_FSX_1.zip

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/Bitmap512/Wattisham/finale5_zps60bd2776.jpg (http://s588.photobucket.com/user/Bitmap512/media/Wattisham/finale5_zps60bd2776.jpg.html)

John, Stevo and Pete

ACG

dhazelgrove

January 2nd, 2015, 07:14

Marvellous!!

Dave

huub vink

January 2nd, 2015, 08:04

Beautiful, thanks for this great gift! :applause: :applause: :applause:

Huub

big-mike

January 2nd, 2015, 08:06

That looks awesome----thank you,Guys!
Mike

Cees Donker

January 2nd, 2015, 08:54

Great! Thanks!

Cees

big-mike

January 2nd, 2015, 09:50

One question---is it compatible with FTX England?
Mike

ZsoltB

January 2nd, 2015, 10:04

http://i.imgur.com/8JzGgB6.jpg

:applause:

hschuit

January 2nd, 2015, 13:20

One question---is it compatible with FTX England?
Mike

Yes it is.

William Njurmi

January 3rd, 2015, 04:06

Great AF base, thank you.

As the readme told, the base was also home for Lightnings before 1976. Could it be difficult to change the Phantoms to Lightnings? Maybe alter the traffic files?

Stevo76

January 3rd, 2015, 04:41

Hi

Glad everyone is enjoying the airfield...

Yes you could change the aircraft to the Lightning, John Young has made an AI Lightning and is available from the usual places. You'd need to create a new traffic file and the airfield was a bit different in the lighting era, there were no HAS hangars, the Lightning would have sat between blast walls on dispersed parking around the airfield some of which remain and are in the scenery some are visible in the screenshot in the above post.

Regards

Stevo ;)

William Njurmi

January 3rd, 2015, 04:50

Ok, maybe later. The base is active even in lousy weather, I monitored short missions while clouds hanging almost to ground level...

gray eagle

January 3rd, 2015, 05:11

hschuit

January 3rd, 2015, 05:21

Very nice....after watching the video, I hope that there will be a way to turn off the incessant breathing :adoration:

The breathing sound has nothing to do with the ACG scenery or the AI Phantoms, it comes from the IRIS Phantom that is used as flyable aircraft in the video.

big-mike

January 3rd, 2015, 06:16

Yes it is.

Thank you very much,Henk.
Mike

Stevo76

June 14th, 2015, 05:39

Hi

Uploading to Avsim as I write this is a seasonal version of Wattisham called RAF Wattisham 1991 - Seasonal Edition. It is compatible with Orbx FTX England only and requires the free 3rd part software SODE for it to work which is 100% needed. It is used to switch the seasonal textures on Trees and 3d grass mounds.

It has Summer, Fall, Winter, Hard Winter and Spring on the ground textures and the hangars have snow on the roof in hard winter. All ground textures by Pete Beeby

http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww195/ACGimages/RAF_Wattisham_Seasonal_Edition.jpg~original (http://s719.photobucket.com/user/ACGimages/media/RAF_Wattisham_Seasonal_Edition.jpg.html)

Its officially compatible with FSX only, but with a bit of work (in regard to SODE) it can also fully function in FSX Steam Edition and P3D. Instruction are on our forum....

Should be available in the next 24hr's

Regards

Stevo

ACG

Bomber_12th

June 14th, 2015, 08:10

Awesome! Will definitely be on the look out for when it becomes available. I absolutely love your work!

huub vink

June 14th, 2015, 08:26

Thanks Stevo for this great update! :encouragement:

Huub

ZsoltB

June 14th, 2015, 08:37

:jump::applause::wavey:

rezn550

June 14th, 2015, 14:41

hey guys.... installed the scenery looks great !! but i think i'm missing some textures as seen in the pictures below
can somebody help ? followed the manual and can't find the reason what i did wrong

http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah151/rezn550/2015-6-15_0-28-14-980_zpsumcr6dl4.png~original

http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah151/rezn550/2015-6-15_0-28-30-403_zps5axjzoxe.png~original
http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah151/rezn550/2015-6-15_0-29-11-67_zps1b4mhby9.png~original

Butcherbird17

June 14th, 2015, 18:31

hey guys.... installed the scenery looks great !! but i think i'm missing some textures as seen in the pictures below
can somebody help ? followed the manual and can't find the reason what i did wrong

If you have the original RAF Wattisham 1991 package you need to grab the EGUW_ADEX_SL_OBJ.bgl (18.8mb) from the scenery
folder. The one that comes with the new package is smaller (12.5mb) and is missing the hangers and a few other objects.

Joe

ZsoltB

June 14th, 2015, 21:50

Perfect!

http://kepkezelo.com/images/q9la5p7x1b0n8ffys7.jpg

http://kepkezelo.com/images/02pen1oe6vpfcg70dpu5.jpg

Thank you!

Zsolt

ZsoltB

June 15th, 2015, 01:13

http://kepkezelo.com/images/sask8dekq9k7c10uo7b0.jpg

Stevo76

June 15th, 2015, 02:36

If you have the original RAF Wattisham 1991 package you need to grab the EGUW_ADEX_SL_OBJ.bgl (18.8mb) from the scenery
folder. The one that comes with the new package is smaller (12.5mb) and is missing the hangers and a few other objects.

Joe

Please note...you do not need any other file from the original wattisham as Butcherbird17 has sugested. All that is missing is not having a quick glance over the manual..LOL

You need to download and install SODE, full instructions are in the manual.....If you dont have SODE then the Hangars, trees and grassed mound, QRA animated Doors, plus objects that turn with wind direction such as arrester nets, Runway caravan and PAR radar will not show. I did mention in my original post yesterday that 3rd party software SODE is 100% required...LOL. Putting in the file suggested above will only put the scenery back to how it was originally....

SODE or Scenery Object Display Engine for those who dont know is a small piece of software that communicates with FSX and can show models depending on a variety of conditional display options. Models are placed into FSX as Simobjects so in essence are AI objects. SODE can then dispay these objects and change things such as wind direction or the texture which is being displayed on model depending on, for example, what season it is.

Please read the manual thats why we take the time to put it in there, we would not release a scenery with parts missing it is all there it just works differently in this version...:encouragement:

This is how it looks in FSX with the ORBX FTX Egnland Addon in Hard Winter which is January in the sim.
http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww195/ACGimages/whw.jpg~original (http://s719.photobucket.com/user/ACGimages/media/whw.jpg.html)

;)

DaveB

June 15th, 2015, 03:02

Please read the manual ..

What are you thinking Stevo!!:biggrin-new:

While you're here.. is there anything else in this update other than the seasonal textures? I use GenX which isn't seasonal so on the face of it.. I don't need this update;)

ATB
DaveB:)

Stevo76

June 15th, 2015, 03:09

Hi DaveB,

No mate, nothing else been added in the scenery as far as objects go, it is essentially the same as the original version, only this version blends with the Orbx FTX England addon, if you use Genx which isnt season then no you dont need it...

:encouragement:

DaveB

June 15th, 2015, 03:45

rezn550

June 15th, 2015, 08:12

Hi Stevo,

I installed sode already when i installed the scenery.... Believe me i read the manual and I appreciate the work you put in it!! Im sure that the mistake is on my end but i wanted to know if somebody has an idea what i did possibly do wrong

Thanks for your help anyway

@Joe i will check it when i am back from work, thanks

ZsoltB

June 15th, 2015, 09:08

http://kepkezelo.com/images/at6cthzx3v0he19vi2j.jpg

http://kepkezelo.com/images/neraxumvmkmgxinpnudn.jpg

rezn550

June 15th, 2015, 10:16

If you have the original RAF Wattisham 1991 package you need to grab the EGUW_ADEX_SL_OBJ.bgl (18.8mb) from the scenery
folder. The one that comes with the new package is smaller (12.5mb) and is missing the hangers and a few other objects.

Joe

back home again.... tryed it and it actually helped !!

i also copied the old "EGUW_ADEX_JY_OBJ.bgl" file and it brought me even more objects :applause::applause:

thanks a lot

Butcherbird17

June 15th, 2015, 13:16

back home again.... tryed it and it actually helped !!

i also copied the old "EGUW_ADEX_JY_OBJ.bgl" file and it brought me even more objects

thanks a lot

Please disregard my post as you do not need to copy over the file from old install. I just started from scratch
(as I had the same problem) and installed SODE from scratch as the manual and the forum post at ACG suggest
(I did this the first time) and found where my problem was. I'm using FSX SE and when I start the sim I get two
program start ups for AICarriers.net and TacPac, (can chose to start them or not) and I did not notice the one for
SODE and just clicked NO and went on my way. After reinstalling SODE and the scenery and started up the sim I
clicked Yes for SODE and got the trusted installer message from the sim, and all is well with Wattisham now.

If you still need help getting it to run please post here or PM me and I will get you sorted.

Joe

P.S. Can one of the Mods please delete my post above so to not confuse any body else with the wrong way of
fixing the problem. Thanks

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/Butcherbird17/Wattisham_00_zpswhsppcin.jpg~original (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Butcherbird17/media/Wattisham_00_zpswhsppcin.jpg.html)

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/Butcherbird17/Wattisham_01_zpslflnpjzq.jpg~original (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Butcherbird17/media/Wattisham_01_zpslflnpjzq.jpg.html)

dhazelgrove

June 15th, 2015, 23:03

Strange how the mind plays tricks on you, isn't it?

I always remembered the hangars being green in the phantom era.

Dave

rezn550

June 16th, 2015, 14:20

i hope that will help you joe ;-)

Butcherbird17

June 16th, 2015, 15:13

Here you go rezn550. Let me know if this fixes your issues.

Joe

jyarddog

June 25th, 2015, 06:47

I would like to know how this was done- for FSX. Face-to-user has a trigger or condition usually made with Modeltweaker as I recall. This done with makemdl. If the object has a transparency to it as well you get to keep the face-to-user when imported into FSX, but the trans is not good (either a black box around the object or incorrect background-box- we've all seen this).

If you correct the trans for FSX this works, but you lose the 'condition'. In other words you can have one or the other but not both.

In this scenery for FSX I see that both ARE working! How is this done. I tried to export the person, using makemdl model then putting it into its own library. This seemed to work, but the face-to-user seems to rotate just a certain amount then stops until you move around to the opposite side.

a pizza, a case of favorite brew, a raise, and 3 week vacation for the trick. freeware designer Bob

IanP

June 25th, 2015, 08:27

Bob,

SODE: http://sode.12bpilot.ch/

Freeware designer Ian P. ;)

jyarddog

June 25th, 2015, 08:41

Thanx bunches. I'll throw in a yacht for the vacation! bob

jyarddog

June 26th, 2015, 08:58

I got everything installed, and all looks great. I do, however, about every other start up of FSX a warning sign that SODE quit working. Next start up everything seems fine. During the install, instructions told me to remove an xml-demo but I did not see any such demo file. Perhaps I overlooked something? Bob

Morti_UK

December 28th, 2016, 10:58

Please disregard my post as you do not need to copy over the file from old install. I just started from scratch
(as I had the same problem) and installed SODE from scratch as the manual and the forum post at ACG suggest
(I did this the first time) and found where my problem was. I'm using FSX SE and when I start the sim I get two
program start ups for AICarriers.net and TacPac, (can chose to start them or not) and I did not notice the one for
SODE and just clicked NO and went on my way. After reinstalling SODE and the scenery and started up the sim I
clicked Yes for SODE and got the trusted installer message from the sim, and all is well with Wattisham now.

If you still need help getting it to run please post here or PM me and I will get you sorted.

Joe

P.S. Can one of the Mods please delete my post above so to not confuse any body else with the wrong way of
fixing the problem. Thanks

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/Butcherbird17/Wattisham_00_zpswhsppcin.jpg~original (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Butcherbird17/media/Wattisham_00_zpswhsppcin.jpg.html)

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/Butcherbird17/Wattisham_01_zpslflnpjzq.jpg~original (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Butcherbird17/media/Wattisham_01_zpslflnpjzq.jpg.html)

May i ask where u got your bell RAF rescure from?

any chance of a copy please