Alabeo C195 Released!

[papab]

Get it here:

http://www.alabeo.com/index.php

Rick

[stiz]

why do people do old planes then put modern panels in them :frown:

[arrowmaker]

why do people do old planes then put modern panels in them :frown:

I don't really mind the modern panel myself. However it would have been nice if they could have included a vintage panel on some models.

Something like this, maybe?

5020

[Rimshot]

why do people do old planes then put modern panels in them :frown: To simulate a plane that has been upgraded with new avionics over the years. I bet there isn't a single 195 flying around with original avionics. When I sim do not pretend to live in the past, so contrary to you I prefer a modern panel on an older plane.

[arrowmaker]

I bet there isn't a single 195 flying around with original avionics.

Well judging by the quick search I made, I'm guessing you are right. I couldn't find a single image of the cockpit without some form of modern avionics.

Plenty of images here:

http://www.cessna195.org/

[Roger]

Downloading now...I'm excited:redfire:

[dvj]

While I like the Alabeo modeling very much, their external textures always appear to be to bright, too reflective against any landscape. No so with Carenado. Anyone else see this?

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[griphos]

What about the image you first posted above? I've seen a good number of these older Cessnas with lovingly restored original panels. My own Chief has an original panel. For many of us, there is a joy to flying VFR using basic instruments (and the odd portable GPS perhaps) and fly using primarily pilotage. So, although I'm not a big fan of Alabeo planes (after buying several), I was quite interested in this one, but would be much more tempted to buy if it included a vintage panel.

[Roger]

Love the look, the shine, the big round engine and the big round engine sound. Didn't have to add vc shadows as they were already enabled. I will be flying this aircraft a lot!

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/03/04/OtWDx.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/03/04/RZXUQ.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/03/04/ric13.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/03/04/FA7oO.jpg

[Roger]

Couple more...

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/03/04/qy9Xb.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/03/04/LkXu7.jpg

[luckydog]

Been flying it around the TX hill country...............I like it a LOT !!

[chet twowolves]

Flying mine around t or c new mexico . It's a great 195 outstanding work.

[Cirrus N210MS]

just got it! for my Birthday ! There is one based out of the my local airfield get to help put it into the hanger when its used

[dvj]

Couple more...

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/03/04/qy9Xb.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/03/04/LkXu7.jpg
P3D? Does not look as over the top metallic as I see in FSX.

[Cirrus N210MS]

https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t31/1956723_10202647168974013_1223640507_o.jpg

[dvj]

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/03/04/4Kvi.jpg

[Rudyjo]

Although I will get this and was really looking forward to it, I'm disappointed that it doesn't have a panel that would have come with it when the plane was first sold.
Look at all the interest in the vintage panel being designed for the C-47. Sure, a real plane would be updated over the years, but this is a simulation. Put an old panel in an old plane!

[ThePlasticMax]

why do people do old planes then put modern panels in them :frown:

Because anytime an old jetliner or GA plane is done without a GPS, there's a dozen or two people pop up on avsim and scream that they won't buy it unless it has a GPS.

So the companies like Carenado/Alabeo that aren't doing it for the love of old planes, but as a business, have no choice but to try and cater to these people.

[andersel]

It's too bad that there isn't a 195 (or, for that matter a Staggerwing) of this quality for those us us that fly in FS9. I'm pretty sure that it could be don, given the current state of FS development technology.

JMPO

LA

[Roger]

P3D? Does not look as over the top metallic as I see in FSX.

No dvj it's FsX Dx10+fixer.

[Roger]

Some shots over Drzewiecki Design New York

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/03/04/X0EK2.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/03/04/GSZbJ.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/03/04/u87nD.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/03/04/P8RGF.jpg

[roger-wilco-66]

That really looks outstanding and I have an itch to get it.
However. I bought the WACO and seldom fly it. I'm one of those who prefer a steam gauge cockpit that fits in the classic era of the aircraft.
Therefore: skip.

Love the screenshots here, a pleasure to look at!

Cheers,
Mark

[sonicsolutions]

Another great bird from these guys. Pondering picking it up but everytime I buy something from Carenado / Alabeo I have to fix up the audio as they do stereo for both interior and exterior which is incorrect.

Can anyone comment or verify if the exterior files are mono or are they stereo...thanks fellers.

Vance

[robert41]

Because anytime an old jetliner or GA plane is done without a GPS, there's a dozen or two people pop up on avsim and scream that they won't buy it unless it has a GPS.

So the companies like Carenado/Alabeo that aren't doing it for the love of old planes, but as a business, have no choice but to try and cater to these people.


I can understand this position.
I trust that these developers realize that the reverse is also true. Many of us vintage flyers prefer a vintage look and feel in a vintage aircraft.

[Lionheart]

Beautiful looking plane. Love that interior. The inner window sills look brilliant.

[UnknownGuest12]

Beautifull model.

But it would be nice to have, at least, an option between old and modern panels. Would buy it with this option or the old one. Really don't like old/vintage planes with modern panels...it´s like to make a restauration of an old car/plane with modern parts...not good...

regards

[William Njurmi]

Even though I don´t know a thing about 3D-design and aircraft modelling, I would guess that it would be quite simple to offer a vintage cockpit alternative for a historic plane. The stock gauges would suffice well. It could be most fascinating to have a virtual 195 in its original equipment.

[jankees]

mmmm, interesting texture distortions on the fuselage...

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/ss11283.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/Belgie/ss11283.jpg.html)

[pilottj]

I think Alabeo/Carenado models their VC and panel layouts on whatever example of the plane they happen to have access to, be it from their own visit or their source photos of it. Their source example evidently had this panel layout. Just like their Staggerwing and Waco, they could have done a half a dozen different panel layouts, but they just did which ever one they had the most source info on. Vintage planes like that never really had a 'standard' layout then either.

I think just focusing on one example makes for less development time and a more accurate panel, at least with dimensions, lighting and such. True, I would have also preferred more vintage layout, or at least stick an ADF in somewhere so one can do some vintage navigation. LOL, at least they didn't stick a G1000 or big GNS in the radio stack.

Cheers
TJ

[Ferry_vO]

The model, textures, dynamics and sounds are all excellent, so for this price I won't complain about what gauges are fitted...

[big-mike]

The model, textures, dynamics and sounds are all excellent, so for this price I won't complain about what gauges are fitted...

Agreed!
Amazing work from Alabeo.
Mike

[Rudyjo]

Bought this about an hour ago, got it downloaded and started the installation, must have tried at least 15 times to put in the serial #, each time it says either my e-mail or the serial # is wrong, I received it at my e-mail address, it's the same e-mail I've had for close to 10 years, so there must be something wrong with the serial number they sent.
I e-mailed Alabeo with the problem, most likely I won't hear from them until tomarrow.
Anyone else have an installation problem?
I assume that the KEY on the receipt is the serial number they are asking for. It has 32 numbers and letters. This is about the 7th plane I've got from Alabeo, never had a problem with installation.

[Roger]

There's an authorisation and serial number. It's the serial number you need to enter.

[Ferry_vO]

I had the same problem when I bought it yesterday, but they solved the problem within minutes after sending a message. Now for the problem of the aircraft overstressing immediately upon loading the flight..

[bstolle]

Now for the problem of the aircraft overstressing immediately upon loading the flight..

Error in the cfg file

The flap g-limit was set to 0.
Replace the first 4 lines with these (or replace the 0 with the correct values).

positive_g_limit_flaps_up= 4.4
positive_g_limit_flaps_down= 3.9
negative_g_limit_flaps_up= -2.0
negative_g_limit_flaps_down= -1.7

[Ferry_vO]

Thanks Bernt!

[Ferry_vO]

The flap g-limit was set to 0.
Replace the first 4 lines with these (or replace the 0 with the correct values).

positive_g_limit_flaps_up= 4.4
positive_g_limit_flaps_down= 3.9
negative_g_limit_flaps_up= -2.0
negative_g_limit_flaps_down= -1.7

Bernt, I have those numbers already in my aircraft.cfg (Bought it last night), but it still overstresses upon loading..

[Rudyjo]

Just got an e-mail from Alabeo, they said they were having problems with their installers. They gave me a different serial number and to use "Alabeo" as the user name instead of my e-mail.
Will give it a try when I'm done with installing a wood floor.

EDIT; With a serial number that works, I had it installed in a few minuets. Nice plane, better than I thought it would be.

[Daveroo]

Just got an e-mail from Alabeo, they said they were having problems with their installers. They gave me a different serial number and to use "Alabeo" as the user name instead of my e-mail.
Will give it a try when I'm done with installing a wood floor.

also dont copy/paste..type it out yourself...i understand they said they have a problem..but sometimes doing it by hand works..

[stiz]

Even though I don´t know a thing about 3D-design and aircraft modelling, I would guess that it would be quite simple to offer a vintage cockpit alternative for a historic plane. The stock gauges would suffice well. It could be most fascinating to have a virtual 195 in its original equipment.


I think Alabeo/Carenado models their VC and panel layouts on whatever example of the plane they happen to have access to, be it from their own visit or their source photos of it. Their source example evidently had this panel layout. Just like their Staggerwing and Waco, they could have done a half a dozen different panel layouts, but they just did which ever one they had the most source info on. Vintage planes like that never really had a 'standard' layout then either.

to be fair, its a fair bit of work, even if you do use the stock gauges. I fully understand them doing the panel they have the most info on etc etc, but that doesnt mean i have to like it :wiggle: :)

[bstolle]

Bernt, I have those numbers already in my aircraft.cfg (Bought it last night), but it still overstresses upon loading..
there's a second entry above the 'correct' one. The lower entry you are seeing is in the wrong location and actually can be deleted.

[Rudyjo]

I think it's one of the best put out by Alabeo. The panel is more old than new, although I wish it had an ADF radio.
The only negative is the high metallic shine on the exterior. Hopefully we will get something like a flat enamel on some of the repaints, even better yet, some dirty and worn out paints.
If this flies like the actual plane, it must have really been a hot rod.

[jankees]

OK, the text is more or less straight, all I need to do is coorect the size of the serial on the tail (why oh why are they different?) and decide on a silver paint vs bare metal look...any suggestions?

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/Belgie002/ss11295.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/Belgie/Belgie002/ss11295.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/Belgie002/ss11290.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/Belgie/Belgie002/ss11290.jpg.html)

[doublecool]

That paint alone would get me to purchase this plane

I hope you do a Army too :applause::applause::applause:

Thanks jankees

[jankees]

oh dear, am I forcing you to spend your money?? I do apologize.

http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/4540-alabeo-c195-usaf/

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/Belgie003/ss11324.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/Belgie/Belgie003/ss11324.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/Belgie003/ss11334.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/Belgie/Belgie003/ss11334.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/Belgie003/ss11331.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/Belgie/Belgie003/ss11331.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/Belgie003/ss11341.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/Belgie/Belgie003/ss11341.jpg.html)

[binarkansas]

Just downloaded the Air Force paint, brilliant as usual. I hope you have a few more schemes in mind for the C195. I would appreciate some older, simpler, stock schemes. Also a Bare polished aluminum scheme would be great as a blank canvas for for me to practice my would be repaint artist status on!

Thanks again

[jankees]

simpler?
Somthing like this perhaps?
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/Belgie004/ss11355.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/Belgie/Belgie004/ss11355.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/Belgie004/ss11370.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/Belgie/Belgie004/ss11370.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/Belgie004/ss11371.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/Belgie/Belgie004/ss11371.jpg.html)

[jankees]

mmm, civilian version was not so popular apparently. OK, US Army then?

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/C195/ss11400.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/C195/ss11400.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/C195/ss11403.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/C195/ss11403.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/C195/ss11412.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/C195/ss11412.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/C195/ss11414.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/C195/ss11414.jpg.html)

[doublecool]

jankees,

I did purchased this very nice plane

Please, could you make the USAF available in in the gray paint also

Thank you for your paints... and helping me decide on this purchase :ernaehrung004:

Well worth it

[binarkansas]

The C195 is an elegant aircraft and I believe the Alabeo model does it justice.



5490

[Rudyjo]

I bought this plane on March 6th, was sent a serial # that didn't work, Alabeo had to send another # that did work.
Today, March 15th, I ordered their C-172RG, same problem, a serial # that doesn't work, sent an e-mail to Alabeo.
What is wrong with their installers?
Wouldn't be so bad if they got right back to you, but it can take up to 24 hours to get a response, maybe longer as it is now Saturday evening.
It almost wants to make me give up on Alabeo.

[racartron]

I wouldn't be too hard on them. The problem is obviously random. I've never had an install issue and I have all their birds. As developers all know random bugs are often very difficult to locate and/or reproduce.:banghead: At least they are working on a solution.

[Rudyjo]

Finally received a reply from Alabeo. they did not send another number to use, instead their answer is to make sure the serial number is written correctly.
I have tried the serial # at least 20 times now, making sure it is exactly what they sent. Each time I get an error message.
Sent another message to Alabeo. Very frustrated with this. This is two Alabeo planes in a row that won't install.
Have bought planes from Lionheart, JustFlight, Carenado, Sibwings, Aerosoft, A2A. Never a problem installing.
Sorry to rant here, letting off some steam somewhere.

[Cirrus N210MS]

where did you buy your plane from?

i get my Planes at Justflight and no serial Probs at all

[Rudyjo]

All my Alabeo Planes are bought directly from the Alabeo Website.
As I said, I've never had problems installing them until the C-195 and now the C172RG.
Alabeo admitted that their installers were having a problem when I wrote to them about the C-195, they sent another serial number that worked the 1st time I tried it.
Now with the C172RG, they seem to be saying that I'm not copying the number correctly.
How many times can I copy the series of numbers and letters wrong? It does seem like it's going overboard requiring a 32 character series of numbers and letters to get something that you have paid for.
It's been 3 hours now since I wrote to them again, looks like it may another 24 hours to get another reply.
This should not be so complicated.

[Rudyjo]

Just got a reply from Alabeo.
They said they had another problem with their installers. The serial number was OK, the problem was that their installers could not read any Capital letters in the E-mail part of the installation.
I used all lower case letters as they said to try, and it worked.
I must give them credit for trying to fix their problems, it would be nice if they didn't have so many problems to begin with.

[Roger]

Just got a reply from Alabeo.
They said they had another problem with their installers. The serial number was OK, the problem was that their installers could not read any Capital letters in the E-mail part of the installation.
I used all lower case letters as they said to try, and it worked.
I must give them credit for trying to fix their problems, it would be nice if they didn't have so many problems to begin with.

I have never seen capitals in an e-mail address? There certainly shouldn't be any.

[Rudyjo]

I've had the same e-mail for over 10 years, Rudyjo22@......
The capital R has worked on all the previous installations from Alabeo.
At least it's been straightened out, it seems I bought both the C-195 and the C172RG just when they had installer problems. Maybe I'll have better luck next time.

[wombat666]

Bought all mine from JF and never had any problems.
As for the modern panel, I'd rather have a Staggerwing, a Waco and a C195 with them than not have the aircraft at all.
Big props for Albeo, they do not slavishly follow the overdone Warbid path of so many operations.
:applause: