Jagdgeschwader 5 "Eismeer" fighters

[JensOle]

Hi,

I decided to make the JG5 paints a dedicated thread to not highjack John's warbirds thread.

Latest screenshots of Focke-Wulf FW-190A-8 "White 10", of Rudolf Artner 9./JG5 (Herdla Norway April 1945). Huub has once again helped out with some textures, this time his loadout texture with decals for the droptank, thank you!

Some small changes, the missing grey on the rear edge of the wing has been fixed and I have made a new spinner swirl decal for all 3 spinner speeds.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/Scrshot1231.jpg~original

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/Scrshot1242.jpg~original

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/Scrshot1234.jpg~original

[JensOle]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/Scrshot1232.jpg~original

[Mathias]

WOW, beautiful work, JensOle!
I see you got the weathering layers sorted, btw.

[Chunk]

Yes, new Würger paints. Thanks much!

[Stan V.]

Jensole,

Have you released any of these beautiful paints yet and if so, where? They are very impressive!

Stan

[JensOle]

Thanks!

Mathias, yes Huub helped me out.

I'll see if I can upload a pre release version to this thread.

[Ian Warren]

Superb paint , now that's keeping it natural :cool:

[JensOle]

Here it is, enjoy!

[Daube]

Superb repaint !! Thanks a lot :)

[JensOle]

Good to hear! I think it turned out to be a rather interesting scheme, even if it is far from spectacular.

[huub vink]

The repaint came out great Jens-Ole! Now you have your aircraft for the Rygge airfield, with the one below I try to convince you that there should be a FSX version of Herdla air field as well. For more inspiration http://www.ronaldv.nl/abandoned/airfields/no/hordaland.html
Jens-Ole you can only blame yourself as you started with the Beaufighter repaints....

For the blue 9, I'm nearly there, but still have some minor things to do. However there might be some good news for those who love sophisticated German fighters very soon, so I'm currently very busy with something else.....

But as said nearly finished, still some detailed weathering to add....

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/FW190_JG5_eismeer_b3_zps37324d37.jpg~original (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/Huub_Vink/media/FW190_JG5_eismeer_b3_zps37324d37.jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/FW190_JG5_eismeer_b1_zpsdd45f2da.jpg~original (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/Huub_Vink/media/FW190_JG5_eismeer_b1_zpsdd45f2da.jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/FW190_JG5_eismeer_b4_zpse3bafdbc.jpg~original (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/Huub_Vink/media/FW190_JG5_eismeer_b4_zpse3bafdbc.jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/FW190_JG5_eismeer_b2_zps920fac53.jpg~original (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/Huub_Vink/media/FW190_JG5_eismeer_b2_zps920fac53.jpg.html)

[hairyspin]

Magnificent work, JensOle and huub; these are a must!

[Lionheart]

Brilliant paint schemes! My goodness...

[huub vink]

Personally I think it is finished. As is already long after midnight, I will try to upload it tomorrow.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/FW190_Eismeer_c5_zps513fa698.jpg~original (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/Huub_Vink/media/FW190_Eismeer_c5_zps513fa698.jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/FW190_Eismeer_c3_zpse6fd2f73.jpg~original (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/Huub_Vink/media/FW190_Eismeer_c3_zpse6fd2f73.jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/FW190_Eismeer_c4_zps5854b363.jpg~original (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/Huub_Vink/media/FW190_Eismeer_c4_zps5854b363.jpg.html)

[Ian Warren]

Huub another absolutely Gorgeous paint :cool:<input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><input jscode="leoInternalChangeDone()" onclick="if(typeof(jsCall)=='function'){jsCall();}else{setT imeout('jsCall()',500);}" id="jsProxy" type="hidden">

[JensOle]

Woow! Looking good, White 10 has a rottenflieger!

Beside the far northern Luftwaffe bases, Herdla was probably the base which had the most action for the last part of the war, particularly due to the Coastal commands operations against German shipping along the Norwegian coast. Sadly the Herdla fighters and the Coastal commands strike wings, particular from Banff and Dallachy, fought a very bloody battle in the last months of the war. Remember reading a RAF Mustang pilot which described the air battles along the western coast of Norway as far more dangerous than the Bomber escort missions into the rest of Germany at the time. JG5 had fuel and many highly trained pilots.

Herdla has a very interesting scenery as well, located on an island north west of Bergen, more or less facing directly into the North Sea. The location was rather cramped with short and narrow runways, but had 2 staffeln of III Gruppe of JG5 from late 1944 until the end of the war (search for Herdla in google maps).

White 10 is an Herdla fighter as well, so an scenery of the bad would be very welcome.

Norwegian scenery add ons to make flying in Norway more realistic and fun: (They are only available from this Norwegian site and and I suppose they re not widely known)

-"Norway Scenic X" (or its newer version NSX_II) is a nice addition to make flying in Norway more realistic. All new land class, coastlines, waterways, rivers etc.
http://www.flightsim.no/fsno/filbibliotek/fsx/scenery/europa/norge.html

-"Norway quality mesh" (for FS9, but works perfect in FSX)
http://www.flightsim.no/fsno/filbibliotek/FS2004/scenery/europa/norge/114.html)

[huub vink]

Thanks for the links Jens-Ole, downloading now.

The repaint is available in the library. Get it while it is still hot!

Cheers,
Huub

Below Norway with the files recommended by Jens-Ole (indeed very nice)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/FW190_Eismeer_d2_zpse04fc0a5.jpg~original (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/Huub_Vink/media/FW190_Eismeer_d2_zpse04fc0a5.jpg.html)

[JensOle]

White 10 has been uploaded, enjoy!

[Scratch]

Beautiful work!!!

[JensOle]

A few more Fliegerhorst Herdla 190s. I really enjoy this "old" model.

White 20 of 9./JG 5 with heavy winter camouflage as it looked in march 1945. This aircraft crash landed on the shore close to Herdla. Of interest is also the late war German crosses, few 190s at Herdla had these. Blue 13 of 12./JG 5 as it looked in April 1945. Both were among a handful A-8s at Herdla with the blown canopy and even if they are A-8s, the most realistic model will be the Fw 190A-9 with the correct canopy.

The screenshots are from P3D, but as this is a FSX model an we already have this JG5 thread, I'll post them here.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/Europe/Scrshot1825.jpg~original

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/Europe/Scrshot1832.jpg~original

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/Europe/Scrshot1843.jpg~original

[JensOle]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/Europe/Scrshot1845.jpg~original

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/Europe/Scrshot1860.jpg~original

[falcon409]

Beautiful work Jens, especially like the "Winter Scheme". Well done!

[big-mike]

Very nice paints,Jens-Ole!Thank you.
Mike

[jankees]

wow, very nice, especially white 20!

[JensOle]

Thanks!

Painting late war Luftwaffe aircraft certainly test your skills as a repainter. Very difficult to get the right look. With the German love for control and perfectionism it is very strange in my view that almost not 2 aircraft were painted the same way.. There are of course the basic factory schemes, but as soon as they reached a frontline unit it looks like the ground crews more or less went on a frenzy with whatever paints they had available to make the aircraft blend in with the local environment.

Working on the readme and packaging stuff right now. The plan is to release both paints in a single pack.

[Chunk]

Thanks Jens! Can't go wrong with more Würger skins. :jump:

[JensOle]

Blue 13 and white 20 are just uploaded to the Library and should be available soon. Enjoy!

[IanP]

If you can put up with temporary buildings (default and/or RAF ones) on a Luftwaffe airfield, then I'll put something together for Herdla? The layout is clear enough that I can do a ground plan fairly quickly, but I've got way too much on my plate right now to take on more modelling tasks.

Ian P.

[JensOle]

That would be awesome! A quick search with herdla should give you some decent drawings and plans for the layout of the airfield. The runway was of timber/wood, any chance of making the runway looking something similar? Thanks!

[IanP]

According to the page linked earlier in the thread, here: http://www.ronaldv.nl/abandoned/airfields/no/hordaland.html - there were two concrete runways, which is what the overhead imagery on that page shows. Are they a much later addition?

I'll use - temporarily - default hangars and Type A/B RAF buildings, maybe some of my Halfpenny Green buildings might work better. I'll see what I can do.

Ian P.

[JensOle]

I have tried to give you a definite answer for the runways at Herdla, but it seems like a very difficult subject. We know for sure that rw 1 was first build with just timber. Sources are mixed with what happened next. Yes, both rw 1 and 2 probably ended up with concrete, most likely in 1943 but... it seems like they were covered with wooden squares on top of the concrete.. At least as most of the taxiways looks like just concrete.


Rw 1 : East-west (850x50m)
Rw 2 : North-south (1000x 50 m)



Some links and pics for you

http://www.verneplaner.no/imgs/landsverneplan/80476_119_01_a.jpg
(http://www.verneplaner.no/imgs/landsverneplan/80476_119_01_a.jpg)
http://www.verneplaner.no/imgs/landsverneplan/80476_119_02_a.jpg
(http://www.verneplaner.no/imgs/landsverneplan/80476_119_02_a.jpg)
http://rafiger.de/Homepage/RaFiGer/FW-190/JG5-Info/Blaue%209-01.jpg
(http://rafiger.de/Homepage/RaFiGer/FW-190/JG5-Info/Blaue%209-01.jpg)
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b39/Kjetil_Aakra/photo1-1.jpg
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b39/Kjetil_Aakra/photo1-1.jpg)
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b39/Kjetil_Aakra/photo2-1.jpg
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b39/Kjetil_Aakra/photo2-1.jpg)
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b39/Kjetil_Aakra/photo3-1.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b39/Kjetil_Aakra/748Weisse1vonUffzSiegfriedLsch1JG5_.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b39/Kjetil_Aakra/30.jpg


http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=18611&page=3
http://www.verneplaner.no/?f=landsverneplan&k=Det&id=247392&a=5
http://www.verneplaner.no/?f=landsverneplan&id=233058&a=6
(http://www.verneplaner.no/?f=landsverneplan&id=233058&a=6)

[JensOle]

Whatever surface you use, it will work just fine and give use a home for the growing number of 9/12 staffel 190's! Thank you!

[huub vink]

Great work JensOle, I personally think white 20 is the best winter skin for this model so far :encouragement:

Cheers,
Huub

[JensOle]

Huub,

That comment is much appreciated! Hopefully we can soon have Herdla in the sim as well! I personally enjoy flying my historic fs aircraft in their "original" locations.

[IanP]

This one is just a filler, until I get time to look at it properly, so there aren't any parking spots, very few buildings and the taxipaths are... questionable!

However, it gives you somewhere to fly from until I finish this cursed Aerodrome Lighting System No.1 and get it working through SODE. By the time I've finished that, I might actually have saved up and bought the Fw-190 Late Models, which I just discovered I don't actually have, when I went to install the rather spiffing liveries that this thread is actually about! :biggrin-new::banghead:

http://www.ianpsdarkcorner.co.uk/historical/dlw/enhl/ENHL_Filler_01_8x4.jpg

Anyway. http://www.ianpsdarkcorner.co.uk/historical/dlw/enhl/IJP_ENHL_0-1.zip

Let me know what you think of it, preferably by PM to avoid cluttering up this unrelated thread, because I've only tested it in FTX Norway, at the moment.

Cheers,

Ian P.

[JensOle]

Thanks so much!

I think Herdla looks very good so far. The runway texture looks like a good fit from the sources we got so far.

Do any of you guys know about any German FLAK/AAA scenery objects? As you know, the germans put up quite massive defensive installations on their airfields and Herdla was no exception

The great British painter Mark Postlethwaite has painted several Herdla related pictures.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/Alarmstart-lg.jpg~original

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/Eismeer_over_Herdla_by_Mark_Postlethwaite.jpg~orig inal

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/postlethwaite-blackfriday.jpg~original

[IanP]

Just as a very quick answer to the last part of that, there should be a liberal smattering of Flakvierlings around the current version of the airfield... Are they not appearing?

I am aware that the whole island was turned into a fortress (torpedo launchers on land? Okayyy...!) but haven't even looked into that yet, because it would require modelling. I'll come back to it when I can.

Cheers,

ian P.

[JensOle]

No, Flak. Is there any object library I should install?

If we get any German sea planes, there is a slipway along the north south runway into the fjord :-) Great stuff Ian :-)

Because of the fjords we had several torpedo batteries in static position at several of the coast forts. As a matter of fact the Norwegian torpedo battery at Oscarsborg in the oslo fjord sent the German heavy cruicer Blucher to the bottom during the initial german attack on Norway on 9. april 1940 (it was first hit by canon fire, but the death sentence was the torpedos fired at point blank range. The Germans build several more torpedo batteries during the war as part of their "Festung Norwegen". Even the late cold war Norwegian torpedo batteries which were actually pretty high tech continued to use the old german wartime torpedos, 40+ years later!

[IanP]

It's in my "dlwobjects.bgl" library, which should be in my normal scenery library download. Can you check in IJP FSX Library/scenery and see if you have dlwfigures.bgl, dlwobjects.bgl and DLWVehicles.bgl please?

If not, you might want to grab the "all-in-one" library file from here: http://www.ianpsdarkcorner.co.uk/all/All_Libraries_20150102.zip

It's a good model (I didn't make it!), but not a well textured model, at present. It's on the list. ;)

The slipway proper, going into the water, it also on the modelling list, but again, that'll be post ALS Mk.1. It'll also stick a little further into the Fjord than the real one did, because the detailed terrain meshes include the real slipway as part of the land and that's really quite difficult to deal with.

Cheers,

Ian P.

[JensOle]

Ian,

I'll check it out. It might be that there are some scenery libraries I have not brought over to P3D V3.

Have you got my pm about the objects?

[IanP]

Yes. Sorry I haven't replied yet - when I read it I was 75% asleep and 25% stressed, so need to go back and read it again! :santahat:

Right now I'm stuck in the middle between trying to fix this Airfield Lighting System, which I broke again, and stop the kids from committing siblingicide!

Ian P.

[JensOle]

No worries 😀 Real life and family first. Btw, the german light flak and vehicles showed up with the new object Library. Great stuff 👍