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JensOle
October 19th, 2013, 02:17
We sadly don't have any good representations of the Seafire in FSX (we had a few for FS9), so I got the idea for some years back to paint up Realairs great Spitfire IX and XIV as Seafire III and XV. The III was sort of a mix with the Spitfire V fuselage with some aspects as seen on the IX (horn elevators etc), but with a short 55M series Merlin (but with individual exhausts) and of course the A frame hook. As I'm sure most of you know, the Seafire was quite an handful for the pilots with its narrow and fragile undercarriage. Not to mention its very short range compared to the US naval fighters. The later was partly solved by using US type drop tanks and the Seafire did very well during the final months of the war in the pacific flying from the British Pacific Fleet carriers.

William Mackay got me to bring forward my old seafire paints for the realair Spitfire and hopefully a few XVs with the Griffon will follow as well. The great problem was to get the hook function to work as it did not work simply by adding it to the aircraft file. Finally William and some other smart people found out it was due to a missing "Hydraulic" section. The hook is of course not visible, but it traps as it should with many broken propellers...lol. Actually I find the Realair Spitfire to be much easier to land on a carrier than many other models, including the Sea Fury. A curved approach is very much needed though to have a visual on the carrier.

Seafire Mk L.III "112/S" of 887 NAS flying from HMS Indefatigable, BPF in 1945. On 15 August Sub/Lt G J Murphy claimed two A6M Zero kills over Odaki Bay Japan with this aircraft.


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jankees
October 19th, 2013, 03:04
wow, looking good!

Wings of Gold
October 19th, 2013, 07:29
The actual solution (need a hydraulic paragraph in the aircraft.cfg file) came from Benoit M. Dube.

Bill

DaveQ
October 19th, 2013, 08:16
I shall definitely have to give this a go Jens-Ole!! Thanks for the post. Have you tried John Terrell's fictional navalised Mustang? It will be a very interesting comparison. I must confess I find the RealAir Spit a lot easier to fly so should have a lot less breakages!

DaveQ

huub vink
October 20th, 2013, 01:19
Very nice JensOle! :applause: :applause: :applause:

JensOle
October 20th, 2013, 03:04
Thanks!

"Seafire XV"

Royal Canadian Navy
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/British/Scrshot1104.jpg~original

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806 NAS 1946

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/British/Scrshot1103.jpg~original

804 NAS 1947 (notice the early post war 1-3-5 roundel)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/British/Scrshot1101.jpg~original

bmd
October 21st, 2013, 06:49
Hello JensOle,

The new repaints are great art works. Thank you for doing these wonderful repaints. I will use them as soon as they become available..

Have a good day

Benoit

delta_lima
October 21st, 2013, 23:01
Agree with Benoit - these are superb. The RCN and late period RN ones are to die for.

Would love to see a late period (Griffon, bubble hood) - maybe someday up Rob Richardson's alley, A2A, or some other fine dev.



In the meanwhile, the still-awesome RA Spitfire does very nicely, and those paints would add a lovely element of character. Would be all over those, Jens, when you're done.

Cheers,

DL

ps: might these repaints be adaptable to the twin contra prop model? Might help further reinforce the sense of "late period" Seafire ... just a thought, especially for anything post-war ...

gribouil
May 2nd, 2015, 06:15
Good evening JensOle,
do you intend to release your wonderful Seafire repaints based on the Realair Spitfire?
These are really nice pictures we have here... :wavey:

falcon409
May 2nd, 2015, 06:22
Good evening JensOle,
do you intend to release your wonderful Seafire repaints based on the Realair Spitfire?
These are really nice pictures we have here... :wavey:
You might check the SOH Downloads area. I don't know where Jens posts his work, but these were posted 2 years ago so they are most likely up somewhere. You might also check flightsim.com

falcon409
May 2nd, 2015, 06:31
Well, not to say they never were uploaded but I've checked both here and on flightsim.com and nothing shows up that would fit the timeline of when this thread was active. Maybe he'll pop on and give you a HU.

JensOle
May 2nd, 2015, 11:01
Yes they were never released, sorry.

Bomber_12th
May 2nd, 2015, 13:39
I'm afraid I must have missed this thread the first time it came up, and would love to have seen these released, JensOle!

For the first time since in original operation, there will be a Seafire LF.III flying this year, and it is scheduled to be flying at this year's Flying Legends airshow at Duxford. (There are three other airworthy Seafires (two in the US, and one other in England), but are all different Seafire variants - the others being the Mk.XV, the Mk.XVII, and the Mk.46.)

https://www.flyinglegends.com/aircraft/supermarine-seafire-lf-iii.html

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/Seafire-1024x768_zpsopquotio.jpg~original (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/Seafire-1024x768_zpsopquotio.jpg.html)

delta_lima
May 2nd, 2015, 19:22
Yes - they're lovely. Please do.

JensOle
June 17th, 2015, 09:09
By popular demand, here are the III and XV as betas for the SoH crowd:


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ian elliot
June 17th, 2015, 10:00
Thanks Jen's, ive just bought the RA Spit last week, and i'll defiantly try out these Seafire paints, also looking back over your previous repaints in the library, thanks for those also :ernaehrung004:

cheers ian

Roger
June 17th, 2015, 10:53
Great!!:applause:

hairyspin
June 17th, 2015, 11:06
Very kind of you JensOle, much appreciated!

gribouil
June 17th, 2015, 12:02
Many thanks JensOle!!! :ernaehrung004: :ernaehrung004: :ernaehrung004:

Craig Taylor
June 17th, 2015, 14:19
Thank you, JensOle! :applause:

Bomber_12th
June 17th, 2015, 14:27
Thank you very much JensOle! Good timing too, as my mind has been on Seafires recently...

Photos of the newly flying Seafire Mk.III PP972 based in England, which took to the air for the first time just a couple days ago. The aircraft is currently based at RAF Bentwaters.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/seafire_aa-01-1024x683_zps926tkuza.jpg~original (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/seafire_aa-01-1024x683_zps926tkuza.jpg.html)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/seafire_aa-02-1024x682_zpscxpmckls.jpg~original (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/seafire_aa-02-1024x682_zpscxpmckls.jpg.html)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/11428795_1606996182886451_8718385977721081539_n_zp stlsmu7ra.jpg~original (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/11428795_1606996182886451_8718385977721081539_n_zp stlsmu7ra.jpg.html)

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DaveB
June 17th, 2015, 15:35
Lovely pics John and thanks for the paints Jens:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)

delta_lima
June 18th, 2015, 07:14
Thanks Jen! Love these. Had only a chance to look at them on, not fly - but they look amazing.

On which texture is the spinner located? Specifically, is the spinner on just on it's own, or is co-located with other pieces? I was looking to replace the late RN's blue spinner with the grey one on the late RCN's. If it's tied into other pieces, it's no biggie.

I'm having a lot of fun. Also, thanks for adding "carrier capability" in the aircraft cfg. I was going to borrow the entries off the AH Seafire - but now it's one thing less to add.

dl

JensOle
June 18th, 2015, 09:12
That is good to hear!

All of the paints have the correct spinner colour as on the real world counterpart it is replicating. The spinner is part of the maintexture.

delta_lima
June 18th, 2015, 10:19
That is good to hear!

All of the paints have the correct spinner colour as on the real world counterpart it is replicating. The spinner is part of the maintexture.

Thanks Jen - I kind of suspected that but thought I'd ask anyway.

Again, super job on these!

dl

hairyspin
June 18th, 2015, 10:53
Photos of the newly flying Seafire Mk.III PP972 based in England...

Thanks John, looking forward to seeing this one at Flying Legends (and the 109G, and...) :jump:

gribouil
June 19th, 2015, 08:35
Exactly what I was expecting...
Nice job JensOle!!! :wavey:

JensOle
August 11th, 2015, 12:47
I have made some tweak to the hook position to make the deck landings more realistic. It should now be possible to land without turning forward.

Seafire III - A-frame type

[TailHook]
tailhook_length=2
tailhook_position =-17.54, 0.0, -2.15
cable_force_adjust = 3.0

Seafire XV - Stinger type

[TailHook]
tailhook_length = 1.5
tailhook_position = -23.00, 0, -2.00
cable_force_adjust = 1.0


What do you guys think about the realair flightmodel? I find this hybrid "Seafire" among the easiest prop planes to land on the small ww2 carriers. Stable and good visibility on approach with full flaps. The seafire was notorious for its landing accidents, but that was maybe more an issue with the narrow and fragile landing main gear than the flying characteristics itself of the Seafire.

Cees Donker
August 11th, 2015, 19:52
Thanks Jens! I'm going to fly this one!

Cees

wombat666
August 11th, 2015, 22:59
Many thanks JensOle!!
BPF Seafires have always been one of my favorite Spitfire variations.
:applause: