Air to Air Refuelling Scenario

[T6flyer]

Hello,

We are at my local flying museum looking at creating a flight simulator that uses the aircraft in the collection, one of which is a VC10. We were wondering if a flight refuelling mission could be created where the pilot has to dock with a drogue behind the tanker. Is this possible and if not with a VC10, can anyone recommend types to try it with?

Best wishes,

Martin

[dhasdell]

Yes, or at least I think so. There's an ai VC10 refuelling a Tornado in TrafficX, and I have managed to fly to it and refuel by copying the tanker into my aircraft folder, using Formation Setup to set it going and then finding it and formating on it with a UKMIL Sea Harrier fitted with the ARS4 gauge. It's certainly worth exploring. There's a KC135 available somewhere, too.

[dhasdell]

Yes definitely. I just tried again and it worked second time. It would have been first time if I hadn't forgotten to tell it we were supposed to be refuelling.

My forum signature applies yet again :-)

[ST0RM]

A-to-A refueling is very possible within FSX in both single and multiplayer.

I use an AI tanker (usually a KC-135 but need to try the VC-10) and the IFR gauge from Andy Niko and Jivko Rusev. It works for both boom and probe/drogue.

The selection key is having the AI tanker to allow the boom or drogues to show in MP.

-Jeff

[orionll]

Here's a link to the gauge Jeff was referring to: http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=In-Flight+Refueling+Gauge+for+FSX.

[trowelmaster]

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A-to-A refueling is very possible within FSX in both single and multiplayer.

I use an AI tanker (usually a KC-135 but need to try the VC-10) and the IFR gauge from Andy Niko and Jivko Rusev. It works for both boom and probe/drogue.

The selection key is having the AI tanker to allow the boom or drogues to show in MP.

-Jeff

we also performed aar in N/E the other day, pics on the MFC web site.


-Migbait !:mixedsmi:

[dhazelgrove]

I believe that RAZBAM has an AI VC-10 with their Harrier GR7/9 package.

Dave

[UKMIL]

we have one

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[T6flyer]

Thank you for all your suggestions as to our idea. It does look as if it is possible, but perhaps a little too difficult for the novice user. Perhaps something that can be worked on and tested when everyone has gone home:)

It is the intention that the visitor walks around the exhibits, has a flight in one of our aeroplanes and then sits down infront of a screen and then finds out what it takes to fly. Short scenarios are the idea....finals in a jet, aeros in a classic, circuit in something else. As we have a VC10, thought that air to air refuelling would be another possibility.

Of course, like the other aeroplanes we are using, we would have to seek permission for use first.

Cheers,

Martin

[falcon409]

Thank you for all your suggestions as to our idea. It does look as if it is possible, but perhaps a little too difficult for the novice user. Perhaps something that can be worked on and tested when everyone has gone home:). . . . . . . . .Cheers,
Martin
Yes, flying some of your aircraft would be a relatively simple scenario for folks just wanting to give it a try. In flight refueling is a whole different animal. . .it can be quite a frustrating experience and not something that someone who just stepped into your museum would find enjoyable. Interesting. . . .maybe. . .enjoyable. . .not really. I do like the idea of being able to try their hand at flying your various aircraft though.:salute:

[T6flyer]

Yes, flying some of your aircraft would be a relatively simple scenario for folks just wanting to give it a try. In flight refueling is a whole different animal. . .it can be quite a frustrating experience and not something that someone who just stepped into your museum would find enjoyable. Interesting. . . .maybe. . .enjoyable. . .not really. I do like the idea of being able to try their hand at flying your various aircraft though.:salute:

See what you mean.....perhaps its something we should leave alone. But thanks for everyone's suggestions, so much appreciated.

We are trying to get an actual VC10 procedure trainer for the art of aerial tanking, so perhaps we should just stick to long approaches in jets, biplane circuits and aerobatics in primary trainers!

Best wishes,

Martin

[Sieggie]

You should have a rep from your airforce there with you. If someone can hop onto FSX and do an aerial refueling without extensive simulator training they will definitely want to talk to them. http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/images/icons/icon23.gif

Dave

[SkippyBing]

It would probably be easiest to set it up as a mission which would allow you to relax the parameters for a successful contact somewhat, i.e. as long as the receiver is within 10 meters of the drogue the fuel level goes up. That should also let you add arrows etc. pointing to the tanker so the user can find it!

[dhasdell]

The link in this thread might be useful: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?79131-Air-to-Air-Refuelling