Belgian Battle WIP [Archive]

ndicki

January 13th, 2009, 01:20

As the existing Belgian skin for the ETO Battle is pretty rough - I did it a long time ago - there's a new one on the way. I just need to tidy up a few details, such as what colour the underside really was, etc, etc... There seem to be two schools of thought here. Some say pale grey-blue, some black. As the one in the Brussels Air Museum has black undersides, I've gone for black - in anybody knows, they will! But if anybody can confim, I'd be grateful. Also - were underwing serials and roundels carried, or not? Inverted on one wing - read from outboard to inboard in each direction, RAF style, or both facing forward?

See all the hard work we have to do to keep you people happy? :wave:

jaycee

January 13th, 2009, 02:21

Try this, if you have not already, it may help, it may not. www.baha.be (http://www.baha.be)

remcoc

January 13th, 2009, 04:47

Or you can check this one: painting of a Belgian hurricane, seen from the right side:

http://www.luchtoorlog.be/hhur_cam2.htm

RemcoC

remcoc

January 13th, 2009, 04:59

... and a Fairy battle from the left side:

http://www.cbrnp.com/profiles/quarter2/battle.htm

so there is a good chance that there were roundels on both sides.

RemcoC

ndicki

January 13th, 2009, 05:19

Thank you both! Between you, the mystery has been solved. Back to Photoshop!

remcoc

January 13th, 2009, 13:37

To make things more complicated: I recieved this picture from the Belgian guy who manages the Belgian (be) website.

(Some days it is good to be dutch!:Banane40:)

RemcoC

Toxisch

January 14th, 2009, 02:48

Good morning,

Pictures tell the story.. so herewith a pic showing the lower surfaces of Belgian Battle T-68 (the drawing posted by remcoc is based on this pic).
Belgain Battles always had their lower surfaces in grey with large individual registration and completed with a Belgian roundel.
http://www.baha.be/web_pics/t68_dbx_04 small.jpg
Confusing is brought about by the fact that the Battle in the Brussels Air Museum is still in the basic RAF c/s painted by the previous British owners.
Restorers merely painted the Belgian Roundels over the RAF ones.
Interesting to know also is that Belgian Battles had a much longer radiator intake duct, different exhaust pipes and a more streamlined (and thus lower) cockpit canopy. Fortunately these are not very visible details which wouldn't affect the looks of your model.

Best regards,

Daniel Brackx
Webmaster www.baha.be (http://www.baha.be)

remcoc

January 14th, 2009, 03:10

Great to see you on this forum Daniel!:welcome:
And thank you for the picture!

RemcoC

ndicki

January 14th, 2009, 11:20

Well, this is where I stopped last night when I finally decided to go to bed. Getting there...

The codes need to be a bit heavier, but all in all, it's not far off. Next question - they had technical information stencilled on the rudder, the same way the French did. Anybody know what it actually said? I can see it's there, but can't actually read it. On a hi-res skin, it'll be legible.

Thanks, Toxisch and Remcoc!

cargomann

January 14th, 2009, 12:12

may I ?
'ne pas marcher, une fois'
ok ok, sorry....
:Banane27:

Capt. Winters

January 14th, 2009, 16:22

Hi Guys,

Hi Nigel,

looks very nice, are you going to do the RAF ones next.

again nice work. :ernae:

regards Rob.

Toxisch

January 15th, 2009, 08:29

Hi Nigel,

I include herewith a detailed shot of what is marked on the tail of the Belgian Battle's. I think it reads (pls check):
PT 4990K
PU 980K
PV 3247K
ESS 723K
HUI 12K

http://www.baha.be/web_pics/t59_dbx_02.jpg

Best Regards,

Daniel Brackx
www.baha.be (http://www.baha.be)

ndicki

January 16th, 2009, 06:01

Excellent! First rate stuff there. Off to get on with the job... :rapture: