Payakan's FS9 Heinkel He115B-1 converted for CFS2 by Kelti!

[kelticheart]

Hi everybody!:wavey:

While doing some download library rearrangments I stumbled upon a 2d panel, reworked by Obio, for "Alphasim Heinkel He 115 floatplane".

Since the He 115 floatplane is an important plane for the North Sea war theatre and I am missing it, I started serching for it but I haven't found it anywhere, so far.

Can anyone point me in the right direction, please?

Cheers!
KH :ernae:

[JapLance]

This is a modified version of that old AlphaSim plane, by OBIO. I'm not sure, but I guess he uploaded only to the forum

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From the readme:


This is the freeware ALphaSim HE-115, after being run through Chuch Dome's Tex512 utility to convert the model from using the antiquated AF99 style texture files to the more modern BMP style texture files. The texture files can now be resized all the way up to 1024 by 1024 for ultimate detail inclusion. I have also added a panel for the plane.

You will need to download the original AlphaSim He-115 to get the weapons files as I do not have them on hand.

You will also need to download the stand alone panel set that I uploaded for this plane to get the gauges I used.

OBIO

I think I have the original plane somewhere, but that will take me a bit longer to find.

[Jagdflieger]

Kelti,

Check your E-mail.

[kelticheart]

Thank you very much, JapLance and Jagdflieger!!!

:jump: :jump: :jump: :jump:

Cheers!
KH :ernae:

[ElsnerMarkus]

Have Anyone this Plane?

I can't found on Sim-Outhouse. Is a good Torpedo Plane.

[bearcat241]

You can find it at the Alpha/Virtavia freeware page (http://www.virtavia.com/Freeware/index.php). Its inside the collective download AlphaSim_really_old_freeware.zip (http://www.virtavia.com/Freeware/AlphaSim_really_old_freeware.zip)

[kelticheart]

Hi ElsnerMarkus,

in alternative there's Payakan's He115. Not multi-res, yet a nicer model than old Alpha's He115.

TO RAMI:

I can't find Payakan's He115 in the German planes library: should I upload a copy?

Cheers!
KH :ernaehrung004:

[Shessi]

Kelti,
Why not upload the one I modded for you, and the texs you tweaked?

When.................I get time, I will finish the 115 I've been doing.

Cheers

Shessi

[kelticheart]

Kelti,
Why not upload the one I modded for you, and the texs you tweaked?......Shessi

Hi there! :wavey:

Exactly what I had in mind Shessi, I'll pack it up and upload it for everybody's enjoyment. :encouragement:

Cheers!
KH :ernaehrung004:

[oldwheat]

I wish someone would multi-lod all pf Payakan's birds. May be a bit problematic getting permissions however.

[kelticheart]

I wish someone would multi-lod all pf Payakan's birds. May be a bit problematic getting permissions however.

I agree with you OW!

I am in the process of putting together an halfway decent 2d panel for this bird. I could not find any historical picture of her panel, I am updating a previous version of the Alphasim He115 by Obio. No VC in the original model either, I can't put together one sorry!

I hope to be done and upload by Friday.

Cheers!
KH :ernaehrung004:

[kelticheart]

Soorry folks,

I haven't finished yet, because I am trying to place defensive weapons in the nose and in the rear cockpit of this bird. Being designed for FS9, she hasn't got any.
I added the He115 armament of two 7.7mm guns in the dp, but looking at these muzzle flashes with ghost gunners and guns is a little ridiculous.

Anyone out there knows if we have a machine gun object pointing towards the rear? I already placed a Lewis gun in her nose, but I am seriously thinking to get rid of it and use instead Buddha13's Supermarine Walrus front and rear gunner figures, which are equipped with guns, too.

I hope this isn't going to look too far fetched, but I have no other idea about how to resolve this He115 empty defensive stations puzzle.

Any suggestion?

Cheers!
KH :ernaehrung004:

[Shessi]

Hi Kelti,
Quite a few crew that could be fitted, but not with guns at the ready. The Walrus crew is about the best you'll do.

Cheers

Shessi

[kelticheart]

Hi Kelti,
Quite a few crew that could be fitted, but not with guns at the ready. The Walrus crew is about the best you'll do.

Cheers

Shessi

Hi Shessi,

over the w-end I tried replacing the rear gunner figure with the Walrus RAF rear gunner, but the difference with the rest of Payakan's crew is so striking that it looks like a cartoon.

Before starting :barf: at the screen, I reverted back to the two Vickers guns, from Buddha13's Walrus gunner pack, only. One in the nose, one in the back cockpit. I am sorry, but the rear gun doesn't point upward, only horizontal (a whole bunch of dirty jokes could come out of this last statement....:biggrin-new:).

I finished correcting their muzzle flashes, entered correct gun data for 7.7mm guns and completed the payloads with the beautiful Dbolt's Luftwaffe weapons.
I used Alphasim's 2d panel uploaded by Obio and inserted my popup engine, fuel and ADF navigation panels, similar to the ones I uploaded with NVG3d's MC205 pack, these are obviously made with German gauges.

I then chose Stuart Green's Arado Ar196 soundset with a sound.cfg configured for a twin-engined aeroplane, as both aircraft used BMW 9-cylinder radials. It's a nice soundset, different from the American 9-cylinder soundsets available. In this set I replaced scrape sounds with water splash sounds.

Last night I adapted a bowspray and water mist effect from another similar seaplane, this took a while, since these seaplane water splash effects are a bit complicated to modify.

Since you sent me your work, I had only started doing all of the above. Since this is a nice yet secondary aircraft, I was then sidetracked by several other projects. Now it's completed, I only have to write the readme and upload, soon.

Cheers!
KH :ernaehrung004:

[Shessi]

Good stuff Kelti, wheeeeeeeeen........I get the time, and an ac I really have liked for many years, I WILL get back to the 115 I've been making. Meanwhile Payakan's 115 will do, as you say, as a secondary ac.

Cheers

Shessi

[kelticheart]

A good day to everybody! :wavey:

I just uploaded Payakan's He115B-1 conversion. Shessi helped a lot by masking out unwanted details present in the original model.

I adapted Alphasim's He115B damage profile and flight model to this aircraft, and assembled payloads with Dbolt's Luftwaffe weapons. Being this model intended for a civilian sim, it did not come with defensive guns as it was in real life.
So, I armed it with a forward and a rear firing standalone Lewis guns from Buddha13's "Walrus Gunners" pack. I apologise to the purists, there are no MG15 standalone machine gun models available to my knowledge, otherwise I would have gladly used them in place of the Lewis. Both gun files are enclosed here.
Sadly, this model was not provided with bombdoor animation.

The original textures are by Payakan. The wing markings had a few glitches, which I corrected and repositioned according to Luftwaffe 1939-41 camouflage standards for bombers and floatplanes.

I believed the soundset comes from Stuart Green's Arado Ar196, but, when I went checking my archived downloads, I could not find it inside of Green's Ar196 package.
At any rate, both planes were equipped with 856hp BMW 132K, 9-cylinder radials. I made a twin engine configuration and replaced scrape with splash sounds. If I wrongly assigned credit for the soundfiles, I hereby credit whoever made them and did a great job at that. It's a very nice radial engine soundset, differing from the British-US radial sounds commonly available.

The 2d panel bitmap comes from an early Obio upload, dedicated to Alphasim's old He115B model. I reworked it with popup engine, fuel management and NDB navigational aids windows, a rear gunner view and a bombsight. The same philosophy I applied to my MVG3d's M.C.205 Veltro conversion, no modern instruments or GPS, only NDB/ADF navigation, as it was during WWII.
The Notes file in the package include all of the most popular ETO airport sceneries NDB from Achim and others. You can always edit it to add more.

Payakan did not build a VC panel, so there isn't any. I painted the letters in the fuel auxiliary panel, marking the spots for Left, Right and All tank switches and an OFF (AUF) switch. I have no idea who painted originally all of the popup panels I enclosed. I did not paint them and I give due credits to the original authors, unknown to me.

Included are alternative full disc and single blade prop textures, plus a Green Ghost-style DAP gauge-controlled water splash mist, bow and wake effects, as shown in the below screenshot.

It's in the CFS2-Aircraft-German section, I hope you'll enjoy it.

Cheers!
KH :ernaehrung004:

[kelticheart]

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/soh_ftp/uploads/imageuploads/274414243359418446.jpg
A new entry has been added to Add-Ons Library, category CFS 2 Aircraft - German

Description: CFS2 conversion of Richard Alexander van Hien's, a.k.a. Payakan, Heinkel He115B-1 floatplane for FS2004.

Conversion by Stefano 'kelticheart' Denti by means of Ivan Hsu/Morten Krogstad's conversion tools and corrected by Mark Shelley, a.k.a. Shessi.

Damage profile and flight model adapted from Alphasim's He115B, payloads made with Dbolt's Luftwaffe weapons. Soundset probably from Stuart Green's Arado Ar196, adapted by kelticheart with twin engine configuration and splash sounds.

Original textures by Payakan. Luftwaffe wing markings corrected by kelticheart, according to 1939-41 standards.

2d panel from Obio, reworked by kelticheart with popup engine, fuel management, NDB navigational aids, rear gunner view and a bombsight.

Included are alternative full disc and single blade prop textures plus a Green Ghost-style DAP gauge-controlled water wake effects.

Enjoy!

To check it out, rate it or add comments, visit Payakan's FS9 Heinkel He115B-1 converted for CFS2.zip (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?linkid=19457&catid=54)
The comments you make there will appear in the posts below.

[gaucho_59]

Finally the addition I was waiting for!!! Good work!
I have a panel just for it... that has been waiting in the wings forever... and I just started work on the one with this release... that
I should have ready in no time...
As usual, available to anyone interested via PM...
The one I have finished can be used with the control column as a pop up... or without it... cropped or wide screen...

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7291/15959619174_0db6418265_o.jpg


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8601/16581799025_eb7a97e654_o.jpg

[Blood_Hawk23]

Hey Kelti,

Did you end up getting a rear gunner?

I have Allen's Lewis gun that I could modify to work with one of MW's pilots. If your interested. I think the gun would need updating to that version. I believe is more of the early WWI type. I can't remember right off hand.

Let me know either way.

[Blood_Hawk23]

Looking into a MG15 inplace of the Lewis gun. I'll keep you posted.

[gius]

Thank you Stefano,:applouse::applouse:
for this great and much needed addon!!!:medals::medals:

[stuart277]

Very nice work Kelti.
Thanks for you efforts. Duo birra por te:icon29::icon29:, (please excuse my spelling)
Gaucho, that panel looks sensational. You can have two beers as well, or should I say, two buds?:icon29::icon29:
Cheers
Stuart

[kelticheart]

Hey Kelti,

Did you end up getting a rear gunner?

I have Allen's Lewis gun that I could modify to work with one of MW's pilots. If your interested. I think the gun would need updating to that version. I believe is more of the early WWI type. I can't remember right off hand.

Let me know either way.

Nice to hear from you, John!

The rear gunner is there already, as part of the model crew. A bit rough if you ask me. I tried replacing it with a better figure, but it should be done with all others, because the difference between the very simple crew figures modelled by Payakan and a new gunner becomes too great and unrealistic.
I also thought of a front gunner, instead of a ghost one pulling the front gun trigger, but the He115 crew was only composed by 3 members, all already present in the cockpit.

I don't know if it's worth the effort, considering Shessi announced a new He115 model.

What would be nice instead is modelling a new set of standalone MG15 German guns, with the rear pointing upward.

Feel free to mod this model if you wish, any improvement is welcome. Anyone here is welcome to it, as usual.

Stuart: ta, mate! No need to excuse your spelling, I assure you that here you wouldn't go thirsty at all with it! :biggrin-new:

To everybody else: thank you for all of your nice comments! :wavey:

Cheers!
KH :ernaehrung004:

P.S.: I discovered where the Arado Ar 196 BMW engine soundset comes from. It was sent to me back in 2006 by Fleurdelys, back then a SOH member, I don't know if he's still with us.
Anyway, I just corrected the introductory description in the library.
RAMI: My I send you or attach here corrected readme.txt and fileid.diz with the proper credit to Fleurdelys for the soundset?

[gaucho_59]

:wavey:
No Buds for this guy... make it a Tekate, Dos Equis or Corona.... :wavey:



:ernaehrung004:

G.

[Morton]

Kelti, thanks! Very nice.
This aircraft is an import part of the Norwegian WWII history. From wikipedia:

In response to the rising tensions in Europe, Norway had ordered six He 115Ns on 28 August 1939. From 14 July-13 November 1939, all six ordered aircraft were delivered to the Norwegian authorities.
The Norwegians signed another order of six He 115Ns in December 1939, with delivery estimated to March/April 1940. The delivery of this second order was however stopped by the German invasion of Norway on 9 April 1940. At the outbreak of hostilities, the Royal Norwegian Navy Air Service had six He 115Ns in service (F.50, F.52, F.54, F.56, F.58, F.60) spread along the coast from the naval air stations at Sola and Flatøy in the south to the one at Skattøra Naval Air Station outside Tromsø in the north. At the beginning of the invasion, the aircraft at the seaplane base at Hafrsfjord near Stavanger (F.60) was captured by the Germans, but two of the Luftwaffe '​s He 115s (given the codes F.62 and F.64 in Norwegian service) were in turn seized by an improvised militia unit of Norwegian riflemen at Ørnes in Glomfjord, Nordland and by police officers at Brønnøysund, Nordland. The two aircraft were seized after they ran out of fuel and had to make emergency landings on 10 April. Manned by Norwegian aircrews, they served against their former owners for the duration of the campaign.
Seven Norwegian He-115s, five of them He-115Ns, were employed against German and German-controlled ships (see: HNoMS Uller), as well as providing ground support to the Norwegian Army's offensive on the Narvik Front. On 14 April 1940 three Norwegian He 115s made a successful attack on German Ju-52s at Gullesfjordbotn. Four of the Norwegian aircraft (F.52, F.56, F.58 and F.64) made the journey to the United Kingdom shortly before the 10 June 1940 surrender, a fifth (F.50) escaping to Finland, landing on Lake Salmijärvi in Petsamo.[7] A sixth He 115 (F.54) also tried to make the journey to Britain, but was lost over the North Sea. The last of the Norwegian He 115s, F.62 (one of the two captured German aircraft), was unserviceable at the time of the evacuation and had to be abandoned at Skattøra, later being repaired and flown by the Germans.


I dont think there was any surviving 115s until an example was raised 2 June 2012 near Sola airport Stavanger. See vidoes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2YKY3wnD3k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqucJPclIfI

Morton

[misson]

Thanks for bring this piece Kelti.
I´ve added Virtual cockpit , perhaps u can add some dead gauges to the texture folder .
In combat the VC is very important for the enemy track view mode.
Cheers
Mario

[kelticheart]

Thank you Mario!

I'll see what I can do with it and, eventually, upload and update.

Cheers!
KH :ernaehrung004:

[miamieagle]

Thank you!:wavey:

[kelticheart]

A good day to everybody!

Please, find attached corrected readme.txt and fileid.diz files where I corrected the credits for the Arado Ar196 soundset.

Rami could you please edit, at your own convenience, the He115B-1 conversion pack and replace the old files with these? Thank you so much.

Cheers!
KH :ernaehrung004:

[kelticheart]

Hi Mario,

I installed your model file, but I have a problem. As shown below, I keep seeing what looks like a smaller VC in 2d mode, where there should only be an external view. :frown-new:

Beside, the VC texture is like an infinite mirror repetition of the entire airplane textures. I have no idea how to map proper textures to a VC and, worse of all, if I don't have a trace where the VC gauges should be, I cannot go about trial-and-error to guess their place forever. :dejection:

Since I never made use of VCs and I disactivated all of them in my CFS2 to gain better framerate, I am afraid this issue will have to picked up by someone here more qualified than me over this subject. :dispirited:

Thank you for you work anyway, perhaps you should start a new thread, dedicated to this VC project.

Cheers!
KH :ernaehrung004:

[misson]

Hello Kelti , I dont know the reason why u cant see the vc. I show u my pics. Perhaps is something changed in your panel cfg.

Any way ill try to find out the mistake.
Cheers
Mario

[misson]

I ´ve maped the entire plane, and found the vc texture use the entire "MAIN_000" texture sheet (the vc uses in repeated way such sheet), so for the moment u only can use the files as i posted and should work.
I dont know the way to coordinate other texture sheet to this vc view by scasm.
Cheers
Mario

[kelticheart]

Interesting, Mario.

What VC entries did you write in your panel.cfg? Could you post them?

I am asking you this, please, because I have no idea what to write under an empty [vcockpit0x] section in the panel.cfg. I am sorry, but I have no notion of SCASM of Gmax editing.
The fact I have no VC entries explains why I have such a hideous 2d display.

This is also why I would need an approximate position for the gauges. The CFGEdit utility I use to edit 2d panels, shows me the 2d bitmap texture and where the gauge goes, while there is only a black, empty area for any VC entry.
All the VCs I did, so far, had already a precise gauge location in the VC, I only replaced the existing ones, then switching back and forth to the aircraft VC in FF to check position and dimensions.

This is how I did it for MVG3d's M.C.205 series conversion and what I just did for the upcoming Quai's & D'Attomo's Fiat C.R.32 conversion.

Cheers!
KH :ernaehrung004:

[misson]

Hello Kelti!. See, i just used the panel as it was.
What i did is simply to force the internal point of view of the model in virtual cockpit. For add working gauges we need vc model. And we dont have it. That was i said with "dead gauges".
I believe was the B24 guy who could add a vc model to other no vc model by scasm way.
cheers
Mario

[kelticheart]

Hello Kelti!. See, i just used the panel as it was.
What i did is simply to force the internal point of view of the model in virtual cockpit. For add working gauges we need vc model. And we dont have it. That was i said with "dead gauges".
I believe was the B24 guy who could add a vc model to other no vc model by scasm way.
cheers
Mario

Thanks for your explanation, Mario!

Then I have a problem in my He115.....:dejection:....it figures!

I don't understand why, with the model and aircraft.cfg you attached here, in my CFS2 I see a piece of the VC while in 2d panel mode. As you can see the screenie I attached above, this partial VC view shows up in the glazed nose portion of the aircraft.

When I switch to VC mode, it does look like yours, but in 2d mode somehow the VC intrudes and shows up......:confused:

Cheers!
KH :ernaehrung004:

[misson]

Thanks for your explanation, Mario!

Then I have a problem in my He115.....:dejection:....it figures!

I don't understand why, with the model and aircraft.cfg you attached here, in my CFS2 I see a piece of the VC while in 2d panel mode. As you can see the screenie I attached above, this partial VC view shows up in the glazed nose portion of the aircraft.

When I switch to VC mode, it does look like yours, but in 2d mode somehow the VC intrudes and shows up......:confused:

Cheers!
KH :ernaehrung004:Kelti... at feet 0 this is what happen , u are right, but if u take off it will be ok! isnt your problem or mine, is normal , same happen with other models like IS4 models.
Cheers
Mario

[kelticheart]

Kelti... at feet 0 this is what happen , u are right, but if u take off it will be ok! isnt your problem or mine, is normal , same happen with other models like IS4 models.
Cheers
Mario

OK, I got you!

Thanks for your assistance, now I understand. When I first saw a VC ghost in place of the bombardier, I did not take off, just exited FF. So you are correct, I took the shot at 0 altitude standing in the water.

As you said, I saw this happen with other models, not specifically with the VC but often, prop blurred disc and exhaust effects are displayed below 100' of altitude. Once the aircraft climbs above 100' they disappear.

The Fiat Cr.32 project Gius and I are working on behaves the same way. Prop and exhaust flames are visible at about the gunsight level in 2D mode and they disappear above 100'.

It's another one of those CFS2 unsolved mysteries.......:rolleyes-new:

Cheers!
KH :ernaehrung004: