Carendo King Air heads up

[skyhawka4m]

Just a heads up folks the Carenado King air is now available.

[OleBoy]

Shiz. This was unexpected :kilroy:
More decisions. I need a smoke, and a beer.:icon_lol:

[Roger]

Sure is... http://www.carenado.com/CarSite/Portal/index.php?accion=product&correl=77

[Ian Warren]

I might have a look the sarvo , would be the first ever Carenado product i ever have .

[Hanimichal]

Awesome


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[Cirrus N210MS]

i Just got my Copy!!

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https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/176258_4400841032791_836549157_o.jpg

[OleBoy]

I also. In hopes of a nice paint specimen.
http://imageshack.us/a/img266/1599/b200.jpg

[Cirrus N210MS]

for anyone who wants to fly there new king air i am doing a flight from KSFO to KRNO in a Few Hours i am ETA 2:01 to KSFO! i am Ts3 ts3.digitalthemepark.com

[skyhawka4m]

I also. In hopes of a nice paint specimen.


Here ya go...



http://grubbyfingersshop.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=131

[gman5250]

I jumped on this one a few days ago.
Nothing but high marks. The Avidyne nav avionics are a change of pace from the usual Garmin packs too. It's my first Carenado. Overall...it's a thumbs up.

Between this and the Real Air Turbine Duke I've been leaving the military hardware on the tarmac the last few days.

I prefer a bit glossier finish than usually come with most stock aircraft. I've done an aluminum skin with modified spec, global and alphas. Below is a screen of a work in progress. If there is interest, I can post up the blank aluminum skin mods for repainters.

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[OleBoy]

Not much out there that sparks any interest. Mine anyways. I have some ideas though. :running:

[ColoKent]

....is a variant included without winglets?

K

[Hanimichal]

....is a variant included without winglets?

K


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[ColoKent]

.....very cool about being able to select winglets or not.

Thanks!

Kent

[Cirrus N210MS]

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/341453_4401650373024_2081675243_o.jpg

[expat]

Gosh, that looks nice. Loved the Aeroworx B200 in FS9 to bits. Question is, how does it fly?

[Barnes]

Another fine job by Carenado. Well done to them.

[Chris Sykes]

What paint schemes come with it? Interested in an RAF one! I might have to consider it if there is an RAF paint or someone working on one!

[stansdds]

The King Air storm has begun! :applause::applause::applause:

[OleBoy]

I would be interested indeed. Anything to get a jump start painting a Carenado aircraft!

I jumped on this one a few days ago.
Nothing but high marks. I've done an aluminum skin with modified spec, global and alphas. Below is a screen of a work in progress. If there is interest, I can post up the blank aluminum skin mods for repainters.

[Barnes]

What paint schemes come with it? Interested in an RAF one! I might have to consider it if there is an RAF paint or someone working on one!


Hi Chris - this scheme is included.


http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/Untitled-1copy_zpseba84fd1.jpg

[Cirrus N210MS]

my first Repaint for this amazing airplane

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/55036_4403151770558_1936572235_o.jpg

[Daveroo]

Gosh, that looks nice. Loved the Aeroworx B200 in FS9 to bits. Question is, how does it fly?


well it has wings on it ,that due to theyre shape,create lift,then it has two turbo prop engines,which power,or propel the wings through the air to create that "lift" to make it fly...................:icon_eek:

[bstolle]

If that's the case, how does she fly with both engines shutdown ?

[av8erjm]

I have the C90 King Air, how much better is this one????

[bstolle]

If you have the C90 the B200 doesn't make much sense as they are very similar. Didn't notice anything 'better'. The next interesting step would be the upcoming 350i IMHO

[Victory103]

Looks great, hoped for a A200 or B200C with more mil variants, but at least it's out.

[Kiwikat]

I will definitely be waiting for a 350 to come out. This is still too close to being the Turbine Duke, imho. :mixedsmi:

[euroastar350]

I am starting to pick up the latest and greatest Carenado/Alabeo models, picked up the C90B KingAir, Cessna 337 Skymaster, Cessna 340, Cessna 188 and Waco. Next one up is the B200 King Air:jump:

[Chris Sykes]

Hi Chris - this scheme is included.


http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/Untitled-1copy_zpseba84fd1.jpg


Sold and purchased last night! had a quick 30 min flight! quite impresses

[Hanimichal]

I don't like his flight dynamic, looks like a gelatin mainly with the rudder

[joanvalley]

I don't like his flight dynamic, looks like a gelatin mainly with the rudder

I agree, but then again I've never flown a B200.

Jose.

[bstolle]

Now, isn't that nice? So you don't have to spend your money to fly or own a real B200 because you know already that you don't like the way she handles ;)

[Brian_Gladden]

Haven't flown a real one but I have friends with 100's of hours in King Airs. They all do the same thing, whether it's a C-90, 350 or a B-1900. Heavy on the rudder, heavy on the elevators and light on the ailerons. Know of a guy who did a full roll while keeping the "needles" centered on an ILS...

[snow_white]

Looking at the carenado forum over at avsim, it seems pretty "buggy" release (yet again..!!).

So far I am not impressed. Looks stunning, but that is where it ends.. too many elementary "bugs" that should have been picked up in BETA and corrected. (not expecting something flawless - every developer issue a SP afterwards, but the kinda bugs should have been picked up..!

[bstolle]

too many elementary "bugs" that should have been picked up in BETA and corrected

Depends what you call 'elementary' as there are hair-raising complaints over there (one of the reasons I stay away from Avsim) about bugs which aren't bugs at all, like the lag between power application and response, wheels sticking out of the nacelle, 'missing' heading bug click spots, etc..
Bert Pieke also mentioned that Carenado does have a beta team but they don't really listen. I didn't even get a beta before the release, I had to work with a half baked alpha version!

[Victory103]

Haven't flown a real one but I have friends with 100's of hours in King Airs. They all do the same thing, whether it's a C-90, 350 or a B-1900. Heavy on the rudder, heavy on the elevators and light on the ailerons. Know of a guy who did a full roll while keeping the "needles" centered on an ILS...

Just started flying a C-12 (A200) and I do agree but not about pitch, very light to me (ie pitch sensitive).

Can't believe the Avsim forums, agree with bstolle, one should know the subject model before calling out a "bug", love the guys that flew 1 hour in a C-172 and now know everything about fixed wing aerodynamics.

[pbearsailor]

Most of my flight time is in 90 and 100 King Airs, but I have flown the 200. This one flies like a 200 to me. I can put in a control input or a power input and it does what I think it should do.

Most of those "bugs" at AVSIM aren't bugs. It does have a few things wrong with it and I'd expect there will be the usual SP's for it, but it is worth the buy for me now. It's gorgeous inside and out, flies fine, and the PT-6 engines act as much like the real ones as FSX seems to allow.

cheers,
steve :wavey:

[dvj]

Most of my flight time is in 90 and 100 King Airs, but I have flown the 200. This one flies like a 200 to me. I can put in a control input or a power input and it does what I think it should do.

Most of those "bugs" at AVSIM aren't bugs. It does have a few things wrong with it and I'd expect there will be the usual SP's for it, but it is worth the buy for me now. It's gorgeous inside and out, flies fine, and the PT-6 engines act as much like the real ones as FSX seems to allow.

cheers,
steve :wavey:

+1 Well stated. Just picked this up and love it. Great sound set.

[jankees]

I have no idea what it should feel like, but it looks very nice I think, I enjoy it

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/ss1852.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/ss1860.jpg

[Barnes]

Wow Jankees - thats great.

[stansdds]

I'm keeping a close eye on this one. I passed on the C90, mostly due to the 90's limited load capacity and range, but the B200 is closer to being what I want in a twin turboprop. I'm also watching the MilViz B350i. I'm not a huge fan of glass cockpits, I just liking watching all the needles on steam gauges come to life, and MilViz has hinted that they might produce a B300/350 with steam gauges.

As for bugs, yep, a lot of complaints at AvSim are not bugs, they are actual aircraft features. Flickering instruments, instruments that do not work, systems that do not work or work incorrectly, missing textures, poor flight modeling... those are what I would call bugs. From what I have read, there is a list of actual bugs, I'll wait to see how the public beta tests go and how Carenado addresses actual bugs.

[Barnes]

Its weird - i have very few of the so called bugs. This is as good as the first King Air

[joanvalley]

The B200 is a beautiful aircraft but an ugly flyer then LOL!

Jose.

[pbearsailor]

The B200 is a beautiful aircraft but an ugly flyer then LOL!

Jose.

The yaw damp is pretty important in all the longer bodied King Airs. On shortly after takeoff and off when the wheels go down for landing. The 90's don't need it much, but it really makes a difference on the 100's and 200's (and likely the 350, but I have no experience there).

One little change that Carenado made from the C90 that I really appreciate is the clickspot on the HSI makes the autopilot panel popup, enabling heading and course selection for the HSI. There was a mod done for the 90 adding clickspots, but this works just as well to me.

-steve :wavey:

[bstolle]

The B200 is a beautiful aircraft but an ugly flyer then LOL!

What is it that you don't like about the way it flies?

[Warrant]

Sure looks great! Wonder when it becomes available at SimMarket (or any other vendor with PayPal options)?

[Montie]

I can not decide if I should get this, might need to see a few repaints first...

[Cirrus N210MS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1MYuFt4qDI

[joanvalley]

What is it that you don't like about the way it flies?

It is a bit wobbly mate, at least compared to the C90, but then again, Never flown one in real life. Hard to correct on final approach, or harder than the C90. Nevertheless, I'm no expert and maybe I want and easy-piece-of-cake handler and that's not the way it is. We had the same problems with the engine surges on our PC-21 FDE when throttling up on take off, just as the C90 has, I didn't see that on the B200 but it happened that it was because of the prop pitch kicking in. It is a nice aircraft nevertheless.

Jose.

[Barnes]

It must be all about settings - im flying around with full realism set and whether i fly it like an airliner or like a C152 i just dont get wobble! Its so predictable.

[bstolle]

1.It is a bit wobbly mate, at least compared to the C90, but then again, Never flown one in real life. Hard to correct on final approach, or harder than the C90.
2.We had the same problems with the engine surges on our PC-21 FDE when throttling up on take off, just as the C90 has, I didn't see that on the B200

1. FDE is (naturally) heavily based on the C90 but with more intertia and more stability. She's definitely not 'wobbly' compared to the C90.
I've read now a few times complaints about the yaw axis when doing corrections with the rudder during approach. Well, you should never use any rudder for corrections in real live during the approach (except in a crosswind)
Doing that can lead to yaw/roll disturbance.
The 350 is even bigger and just look at this video what's happening in the yaw axis in gusty weather during approach. (relevant part starting at 2:05) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7825HGfZzfI
2. It's exactly the same way of PT6 modelling as in the C90. The B200 is easier to taxi because she doesn't run away as easily as the C90.

[jankees]

Having made a somewhat longer flight, I have to say that I don't like the flightmodel either. It is very wobbly, not stable at all, and insists on banking to the left continuously. Having never flown anything myself in real life, except a Harvard, my best comparison is like driving a Lincoln Towncar, which seemed to have a suspension made of pudding. Not sure what is the problem here, might be my FSX, because look at what my Milford Sound looks like suddenly:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/ss1915.jpg

the ocean was all trees too, anyone any idea what went wrong here?

Someone mentioned paint jobs, this one is still wip:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/ss1926.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/ss1929.jpg

[bstolle]

Having made a somewhat longer flight, I have to say that I don't like the flightmodel either. It is very wobbly, not stable at all, and insists on banking to the left continuously

That's weird. Again, the 200 isnt' very wobbly (not even wobbly) and except during a low speed/high power climb there's no left turning tendency. Do have the C90 or the RealAir Duke ?

[Thoe6969]

I think it's one of the best hand flyers I have.It has a somewhat heavy feel that it should have,but not a all unstable.

[jankees]

a reinstall solved most of my problems, both the King Air and New Zealand:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/ss1954.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/ss1957.jpg

[Daveroo]

bstole,
question...
"you should never use any rudder for corrections in real live during the approach"
if thats the case,what are you supposed to do?you are on final,and not quite lined up,,,in flight simulator,ive allways used rudder to correct,thinking about your comment,i realise my plane ends up "swing" back and forth,and it almost never gets lined up right,,but what are you supposed to do?....use engine power? ailerons?
this is a serious question.....i wanna learn...

[Cirrus N210MS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hPaQ4ZIAUY

[bstolle]

"you should never use any rudder for corrections in real live during the approach"
if thats the case,what are you supposed to do?you are on final,and not quite lined up,,,in flight simulator,ive allways used rudder to correct...

As you noticed already, using the rudder doesn't have the desired effect it just destabilizes your approach....but to keep this thread on topic, I've sent you a PM :)

[CG_1976]

Jankee's I know you told me last time I made a req to keep it real. May please req your wonderful talents on the Air Tindi B200
http://www.airtindi.com/super_kingair.html and http://www.airtindi.com/gallery.html

Her reg is C-GTUC

Wonderful job on the Air Greenland paint. I took her from Nuuk to Iqaluit.

[joanvalley]

1. FDE is (naturally) heavily based on the C90 but with more intertia and more stability. She's definitely not 'wobbly' compared to the C90.
I've read now a few times complaints about the yaw axis when doing corrections with the rudder during approach. Well, you should never use any rudder for corrections in real live during the approach (except in a crosswind)
Doing that can lead to yaw/roll disturbance.
The 350 is even bigger and just look at this video what's happening in the yaw axis in gusty weather during approach. (relevant part starting at 2:05) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7825HGfZzfI
2. It's exactly the same way of PT6 modelling as in the C90. The B200 is easier to taxi because she doesn't run away as easily as the C90.

By God, you are correct mate. I experience the same exact movements on final just like the video. Then, the FDE should be a fantastic feature of the product. Kudos mate, I'm convinced and it just inspires me to tame the aircraft and learn to fly it properly. Thanks!

Jose.

PS: Now I'm sure I don't want to buy a real B200! :D Back to build the Metroliner's VC and hopefully the metro doesn't fly like the B200...

[bstolle]

hopefully the metro doesn't fly like the B200...

If it's a good FDE it should be a lot different. I loved flying the Metro IRL. A Beech always feels more soft and the handling is not as crisp.

[Brian_Gladden]

Back when I worked Line Service, one of our pilots had a lot of Metroliner time (He called it the Texas Tube Steak) and also King airs. He prefered our company's C-90's. Course he now captain's a G-IV out of Virginia.

[snow_white]

found vspeed callouts on AVSIm for B200

http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=b200_vspeeds_callout_sounds. zip&CatID=root&Go=Search

For what's it worth

[Hanimichal]

My 1st repaint
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[Hanimichal]

Working in 74430

[jankees]

Nice ones!

I've been busy too:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/ss2025.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/ss2019.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/ss2020.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/ss2013.jpg

[snowbird552]

Carenado has done a wonderful job with this bird and I really hope they pursue an expansion pack (medivacs, special mission variants etc...), much like the C208B Cargo. It's also great to see some repaints coming together! Has anyone considered this NASA variant?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24526864@N03/4664889569/

NASA has two King Airs that are used for research, mission support, and as shuttles between NASA facilities.

[jankees]

Patience...

[OleBoy]

Nice paints guys!!

[jankees]

last two paints have just landed on OZx.

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/ss2085.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/ss2090.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Belgie/ss2100.jpg

[Montie]

The SP1 is available now.

[Warrant]

Really love the plane! The only minor so far....the window reflection in VC does not match the actual cockpit. For the rest...excellent aircraft!