Milviz F-86F-30 Sabre On Final

[MenendezDiego]

More to come tonight:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8182/8072341231_1cfaa304de_b.jpg

Regards, Diego

[mikew]

Oh Yeah! Looking good!

Sign me up!

Mike

[Aircanuck]

...... short final :jump:

[Kiwikat]

That looks quite good! :jump:

[Ian Warren]

After ripping around in the T-38 and really enjoying that one this F-86 .... No hesitation ! :cool:<input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><input jscode="leoInternalChangeDone()" onclick="if(typeof(jsCall)=='function'){jsCall();}else{setT imeout('jsCall()',500);}" id="jsProxy" type="hidden">

[Sundog]

I'll take one. I really like that paint scheme as well. :)

[JAllen]

YAY!!!! Can't wait!! Looking so good!!

[MenendezDiego]

A little cloud surfing:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8322/8072730409_ae961c7b7d_b.jpg

[Ian Warren]

:icon_lol: You bloody tease ... 86 please and only $35US :cool: ... 42.6788 Kiwi dollars :173go1:<input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><input jscode="leoInternalChangeDone()" onclick="if(typeof(jsCall)=='function'){jsCall();}else{setT imeout('jsCall()',500);}" id="jsProxy" type="hidden"><input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><input onclick="if(typeof(jsCall)=='function'){jsCall();}else{setT imeout('jsCall()',500);}" id="jsProxy" type="hidden">

[krazycolin]

34.99 suit ya?

[Kiwikat]

A little cloud surfing:

O MAN. If the paint kit is easy to use there's going to be a TON of repaints for this! :applause:

[krazycolin]

Well, it's a MV paint kit... so... not exactly "easy" but not that hard either. We will be releasing the paint kit at the same time...

[Ian Warren]

34.99 suit ya?
That is without a dou't brussel sprot :icon_lol: We'd have everyone in Kiwi-land rattling their Sabres :cool:


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[MenendezDiego]

These shots merely scratch the surface of the lighting system; the possibilities are endless:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8322/8072835075_e49254e355_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8449/8072790237_b608118ea4_b.jpg

[Akatsuki]

Oh yes ! :jump:

[Ian Warren]

@ MenendezDiego , this is were it hits the honey pot , 1st generation jet , this is what flightsim is all about .. to get as real as real can get and skills in texture and the packages .. and the options SUPERB ! :cool:<input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><input jscode="leoInternalChangeDone()" onclick="if(typeof(jsCall)=='function'){jsCall();}else{setT imeout('jsCall()',500);}" id="jsProxy" type="hidden">

[Akatsuki]

Can we have the manual ? Please.

[krazycolin]

Not quite yet, sorry. But very soon now... Very soon indeed....

[Kiwikat]

Can we have the manual ? Please.


Don't need no stinkin' manual. Just the plane, please. :173go1:

[RyanJames170]

Don't need no stinkin' manual. Just the plane, please. :173go1:


hopefly its out soon ive been waiting on this one :)

[MenendezDiego]

One of my favorite liveries:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8310/8072904461_b692b9e52a_b.jpg

[strykerpsg]

A little cloud surfing:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8322/8072730409_ae961c7b7d_b.jpg

Definitely my favorite! Release this baby. Gonna apply my discount on this beauty. Thank you Colin and team.

[ColoKent]

....is an ABSOLUTE no-brainer! I'm in!

Kent

[Montie]

Count me in as well :icon_eek:

[dvj]

Wow! I can delete all of my FSX aircraft and just fly this one.

[bully707]

Wow...! :jump:

I have got to get me one of these...!
Have just given word to my friends in Germany that the release is imminent.

Standing by to use my credit card on this one! :wavey:

[MenendezDiego]

O MAN. If the paint kit is easy to use there's going to be a TON of repaints for this! :applause:

The thought of all the repaints excites me immensely! Which do you have in mind or would like to see?

[jankees]

this is still one of my favorite schemes, here on the SF8 model

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX5234.jpg

[Ferry_vO]

More to come tonight:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8182/8072341231_1cfaa304de_b.jpg

Regards, Diego

Wolfhounds!! :applause:

[Daube]

It looks fantastic !

What about the "realism" of the cockpit procedures ? Like, engine starting etc... ? I don't remember reading anything about this. It's one of the main strong points of the freeware model, so I really hope this new payware will be at least as realistic/complete :)

[FlameOut]

She's beautiful! :applause:

[skyhawka4m]

Is this still the old build? Pilot looks small here. Other than that....SWEET!!!!!

[bstolle]

Is this still the old build? Pilot looks small here.

Small? I'd say no if the pilot is 5.7ft and yes if he's 6.5ft ;)

[flaviossa]

Beautiful endeed, i´ll get it for sure. Any info about price? have to verify if i can squeeze it in this month fs budget as i´ll sure be tortured with 100´s amazing screens that you guys will post in the next days :icon_lol:

[krazycolin]

34.99

[flaviossa]

Thanks ... priority one on my purchase list :ernae:

[ColoKent]

....is a STEAL-- IMHO!

Kent

P.S. I probably missed earlier discussion of this, but it looks like MilViz is doing the 6-3 "hard" wing...

[Barnes]

My amex card numbers are awaiting!! :jump:

[Skyhawk18]

O MAN. If the paint kit is easy to use there's going to be a TON of repaints for this! :applause:

I'll make the paint kit as easy as possible to use.
A total of 17 liveries has been made for this bird (it was difficult to stop painting :icon_lol:)

However, only 6 liveries will be a part of the release. The rest will come as two optional downloads.

Here's an other USAFE paint:

http://www.gunnarvm.com/F86/USAFE.jpg

...and maybe this one will be familiar to some of you
http://www.gunnarvm.com/F86/SB.jpg

[TheGrunt]

Amazing job! If system modeling is also good, this is definitely a must buy :ernae:

[Akatsuki]

The extra liveries will be available on release day ?

Great work on the textures too, they look great.:applause:

[Daveroo]

my aunts dad,,,moms brothers wife,,flew an F86,was a col,i only saw a single photo of the plane as my aunts mother lived with my aunt and uncle and she HATED th man,,,he had become a mean alchoholic after his retirement,so i never got to learn anything about him,,shame

[fliger747]

Is a good flier, Bernt with some cooperation from the coder magic guys have gone all out on this one!

T

[VinFlyer]

Wolfhounds!! :applause:

I thought it looked familiar :icon_lol: But it looks better than the real thing. I'll definitely buy it.

[skyhawka4m]

PLEASE do an ANG paint if at all possible. Looking forward to this jet!

[krazycolin]

The extra liveries will not be available on release day but shortly thereafter as a separate package. (and it is possible we may charge for them...)

[Ferry_vO]

I thought it looked familiar :icon_lol: But it looks better than the real thing. I'll definitely buy it.

USAFE Aircraft didn't have the 'readme' signs in Portugese then..?

[krazycolin]

Well, we translated the American stencils into English for the Canadian birds... :salute:

[MenendezDiego]

Speaking of Canada...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/8074943290_7bf1ddfb25_b.jpg

[Ferry_vO]

Well, we translated the American stencils into English for the Canadian birds... :salute:

Little 'inside' joke about the Portugese Colin; there's an F-86 in the museum where Vinflyer works , which is painted like the a Wolfhounds Sabre, but in it's previous life it belonged to the Portugese airforce. Now after years of standing outside in the Dutch climate the original Portugese markings are showing through, and some of the markings have never been painted over so some of the warning signs are in a somewhat strange language for a USAFE bird!

Edit: Here's two photos:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/MLM/Wolfhounds1.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/MLM/Wolfhounds2.jpg

Definitely seen better days....

[Roadburner440]

Well, we translated the American stencils into English for the Canadian birds... :salute:

Must have been a lot of "eh's" added to the end of everything bad. :icon_lol: I jest of course.

[Skyhawk18]

Little 'inside' joke about the Portugese Colin; there's an F-86 in the museum where Vinflyer works , which is painted like the a Wolfhounds Sabre, but in it's previous life it belonged to the Portugese airforce. Now after years of standing outside in the Dutch climate the original Portugese markings are showing through, and some of the markings have never been painted over so some of the warning signs are in a somewhat strange language for a USAFE bird!

Edit: Here's two photos:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/MLM/Wolfhounds1.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/MLM/Wolfhounds2.jpg

Definitely seen better days....


As a matter of fact, Bone went to visit the museum in Soesterberg. He brought back a lot reference material which we used for our paint. And we decided to translate the Portuguese stencils :icon_lol:

http://www.gunnarvm.com/F86/USAFE1.jpg

[Kiwikat]

Does she fly as nice as she looks? :icon_eek:

I sure hope we don't have to wait much longer, though the wait isn't so bad with these beautiful screenies. :mixedsmi:

[krazycolin]

Bernt has done the FDE and all the pilots love it. It's not exactly hard but it's not easy either... The T-38 is tough in the pattern but nice everywhere else... this is just a bit tough everywhere...

[MudMarine]

Sure is a looooong final! ATC must be going nuts! :icon_lol:

[Ian Warren]

Speaking of Canada...


Now it would be interesting to see , Simulation Versus Painting , this a print from the book 'AIRCRAFT MARKINGS OF THE WORLD 1912-1967
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m31/Ian_Warren/2010%20Flightsim/GoldenHawksCustomcopy.jpg
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[dvj]

Something tells me you are not done with the pilot figure. :icon_lol: Here he is in the Section 8 F86. Seems more in porportion to the aircraft.

http://imageshack.us/a/img600/2773/pilotf86.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/pilotf86.jpg/)

[UnknownGuest12]

As a matter of fact, Bone went to visit the museum in Soesterberg. He brought back a lot reference material which we used for our paint. And we decided to translate the Portuguese stencils :icon_lol:



Hi

Yellow lettering into black rectangle:
1-Open door and pull cable to unblock (or unlock) cover (canopy)
2-Open handle door (or cover) on cabin cover (canopy) and push back.

The big yellow arrow says "salvamento" wich means rescue....

Regards

[Aircanuck]

Something tells me you are not done with the pilot figure. :icon_lol: Here he is in the Section 8 F86. Seems more in porportion to the aircraft.

http://imageshack.us/a/img600/2773/pilotf86.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/pilotf86.jpg/)
thats better ! ... maybe our ole friend will switch teams :running:

[krazycolin]

Sorry, but without meaning to be rude, tactless or undiplomatic, I am going to stop this right now:

1) the price is 34.99 and, if you buy it from our site, you can return it, no questions asked, within 30 days for a FULL refund.
2) the pilot is a relative 6 feet tall and is just fine where he is. Please remember, there are short and tall people in the world. (check real pics for size please)
3) he is wearing the correct colors and clothing for his day.
4) The plane, we believe, flies like a Sabre.
5) the left tail fin has 86 rivets and that is the correct number for the left tail fin.
6) it is our intention to arm this plane once (if) Tacpack for devs is ever released.
7) though I/we expect the comparisons to be endless, no further comments will be made on those comparisons by any MV team member. So feel free to make them and to make your own comparisons... we will, again, not be making any comments.

Thanks for your attention.

[dvj]

The Pilot looks perfect in this shot, so must be the how the shot is taken.
http://www.gunnarvm.com/F86/USAFE.jpg

...

[RyanJames170]

http://bilyreid.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/F-86-PASS.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cc/F-86-51fig-korea.jpg have a look at this real pilot..

i think the milviz F-86 is spot on for 1950's

[skyhawka4m]

Sorry, but without meaning to be rude, tactless or undiplomatic, I am going to stop this right now:

1) the price is 34.99 and, if you buy it from our site, you can return it, no questions asked, within 30 days for a FULL refund.
2) the pilot is a relative 6 feet tall and is just fine where he is. Please remember, there are short and tall people in the world. (check real pics for size please)
3) he is wearing the correct colors and clothing for his day.
4) The plane, we believe, flies like a Sabre.
5) the left tail fin has 86 rivets and that is the correct number for the left tail fin.
6) it is our intention to arm this plane once (if) Tacpack for devs is ever released.
7) though I/we expect the comparisons to be endless, no further comments will be made on those comparisons by any MV team member. So feel free to make them and to make your own comparisons... we will, again, not be making any comments.

Thanks for your attention.


wow....alrighty then......seems a bit drastic to me to put it this way on a forum that people are only trying to be constructive. May have to rethink this one now........customer service and critque are very important to me....and someone who takes themselves and their product this serious.......without being open to dicuss with members here may just loose money for being such.

[krazycolin]

Actually, we did discuss it. But it keeps coming back.

Critique is fine but what about when I show you that ours is right? Then you show me a pic of something else that is right as well. people are different sizes. How can I deal with that?

as an FYI, We have great customer service. We do listen. Our response time is less than 48 hours on all issues. (Usually far less). We fix nearly all of our bugs and we do it quickly.

How about this statement? We don't feel that comments comparing ours with the other product are valid or something we should be talking about.... Is that better?

In the end it's semantics. The idea is that you have a choice. But so do we. We think our payware version is worth the money. You can decide for yourself. Or not. But if you do, you can count on us being there to support you as our customer.

Oh and I do take this seriously. We spend a huge amount of effort, time and money on doing this right.

[Barnes]

Well said Colin. If anyone can please everyone all of the time then he or she would be exceptionally rich and popular!

[MenendezDiego]

Cleared to land!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8463/8076260010_3b474db464_b.jpg

[ZsoltB]

When will be available?

[MenendezDiego]

When will be available?

We're hashing out some bugs we found in the latest build. Once those are taken care of, we'll have a final release candidate, and once that clears, it's just a matter of uploading the final version onto our sales section. We won't keep you guys waiting any longer than necessary, and we'll always keep you in the loop. That's a promise :)

Regards, Diego

[DagR]

Looks very nice. How are the FPS?


Best
DagR

[ColoKent]

...shoulda known you'd appear here after the first RoNAF example appeared in a screeenshot!!!! This one is going to be fun...

Kent

[fsxar177]

...Just had to chime in here;
Been following this project for some time, and It's been one of the most photogenic visual models that I've seen to date. When something about they eye just says, 'they've got it right'. It's looking great guys! Keep it up!

Joseph

[bully707]

I want that baby sooooo bad! :jump:
Had the chance to get up, close and personal with a Sabre at Wittmund AB (Home to the last few F-4F in an active German Fighter Wing) and it is just such a beautiful jet.

[Skyhawk18]

...shoulda known you'd appear here after the first RoNAF example appeared in a screeenshot!!!! This one is going to be fun...

Kent




Dag:

We actually have two RNoAF liveries, but only one of them will be a part of the release. :salute:

http://www.gunnarvm.com/F86/RNoAF3.jpg

[wapanomi]

Cleared to land!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8463/8076260010_3b474db464_b.jpg

Outstanding !!!

[ZsoltB]

Dag:

We actually have two RNoAF liveries, but only one of them will be a part of the release. :salute:

http://www.gunnarvm.com/F86/RNoAF3.jpg

I like the RNoAF liveries

[DagR]

Dag:

We actually have two RNoAF liveries, but only one of them will be a part of the release. :salute:

http://www.gunnarvm.com/F86/RNoAF3.jpg

Man that's nice! I have a better font for the serial numbers tho ;-)
You can't have them...nanananananan! Gonna be a trademark of mine should I decide to paint again :-)

Best
DagR

[ColoKent]

....we just need a T-33A companion trainer (C'mon, Dino!) to be in late 50s RoNAF nirvana!!!!

Kent

[Akatsuki]

....we just need a T-33A companion trainer (C'mon, Dino!) to be in late 50s RoNAF nirvana!!!!

Kent

A T-33 would be so cool.

[Skyhawk18]

Man that's nice! I have a better font for the serial numbers tho ;-)
You can't have them...nanananananan! Gonna be a trademark of mine should I decide to paint again :-)

Best
DagR



:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

Hope to see some RNoAF liveries signed Dag R :salute:

[strykerpsg]

Colin, just build it and they will come. This thing looks fantastic, more than good enough for government work to qualify for my tastes. I remember seeing one in the early 80's being used to calibrate NORAD stuff or something along those lines.

[DagR]

....we just need a T-33A companion trainer (C'mon, Dino!) to be in late 50s RoNAF nirvana!!!!

Kent

Hear hear !! T-bird !!


Best
DagR

[DagR]

Actually, we did discuss it. But it keeps coming back.

Critique is fine but what about when I show you that ours is right? Then you show me a pic of something else that is right as well. people are different sizes. How can I deal with that?

as an FYI, We have great customer service. We do listen. Our response time is less than 48 hours on all issues. (Usually far less). We fix nearly all of our bugs and we do it quickly.

How about this statement? We don't feel that comments comparing ours with the other product are valid or something we should be talking about.... Is that better?

In the end it's semantics. The idea is that you have a choice. But so do we. We think our payware version is worth the money. You can decide for yourself. Or not. But if you do, you can count on us being there to support you as our customer.

Oh and I do take this seriously. We spend a huge amount of effort, time and money on doing this right.

Hello Colin,

I'll put it blunt, your Sabre looks amazing. On that basis, can I ask for free of charge sample... LOLOLOL..... Just kidding, worth every cent :-)

[oakfloor]

Well O.K...where's the saber?

[Scratch]

Well O.K...where's the saber?

Maybe Mud got an early try at it and he broke it:gameoff::blind:

[RyanJames170]

we realy need a nice Mig-15 now :P

[MudMarine]

Maybe Mud got an early try at it and he broke it:gameoff::blind:

Give me a crack at that little shop-heater and I'll make scream for mercy! :icon_lol:

[n4gix]

Let there be smoke! I love the smell of kerosene! :wiggle:
73861

[krazycolin]

we realy need a nice Mig-15 now :P

Funny you should say that....

[CP1207]

Was wondering if this might happen...
Yay:jump:

[Sundog]

Thanks for all the great pics of the textures, I realize they won't all be in the release pack, but they're good to see.

[MenendezDiego]

Thanks for all the great pics of the textures, I realize they won't all be in the release pack, but they're good to see.

Anytime!

Is there anything in particular you guys would like to see?

[SeanTK]

Funny you should say that....

The Sabre looks great!
Regarding the MiG, there is one available for FSX from Bear Studios (through Flight1) but if Milviz plans on making one as well, I'm certainly excited for that!

[Kiwikat]

Anytime!

Is there anything in particular you guys would like to see?

More daytime VC shots (and closeups), please. :salute:

[MenendezDiego]

Kiwikat, I couldn't decide what to take a closeup of...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8188/8078872266_78f1db74de_b.jpg

Hopefully this will do :)

[MenendezDiego]

And one more for tonight:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8468/8078880627_c4c9090fb9_b.jpg

[RyanJames170]

The Sabre looks great!
Regarding the MiG, there is one available for FSX from Bear Studios (through Flight1) but if Milviz plans on making one as well, I'm certainly excited for that!
'it would be cool to get a good looking mig 15 to chase the saber though :P

[ColoKent]

...BTDT: Bear Studios. Give us a T-33A!!!!

K

[MenendezDiego]

Small update:

We have finally tackled and destroyed a bug which we've been going after since the early Alpha build!

Good day! We're getting close!

Regards, Diego

Edit: Let's just say this bug has been such a pain where the sun don't shine, that I had a dream about it last night.

Feels good!

[yankeeromeo]

Give us a T-33A!!!!

K

Yes , Please:applause::applause:
Cheers.

73865

[skyhawka4m]

I agree on the T-33....I pray it will have under wing tanks and the under fuselage ecm pod

[fleurdelys]

'it would be cool to get a good looking mig 15 to chase the saber though :P

... or vice versa...:icon_lol:

Cheers,

Fleurdelys

[huub vink]

Jets, even these early ones aren't really my thing, but the image look absolutely stunning!

Cheers,
Huub

[JAllen]

I agree on the T-33....I pray it will have under wing tanks and the under fuselage ecm pod

Who was flying ECM pods on T-33's?

[ColoKent]

1. USAF Defense Systems Evaluation Squadron (DSES) units in the 60's and 70's flew with ECM and chaff pods (these units where used to exercise US air defense capability and they flew EB-57s and AT-33s)
2, The Canadian Forces also flew a version called the ET-33 (I think) used to exercise other aircraft (F-18s for example)

Kent

[JAllen]

I thought as much. From 1966 to 1968 I worked ECM for the 4677 DSES at Hill AFB for the EB-57D and E's. I heard back then that ALE-2's were being used on some T-33's somewhere. But, never heard about active ECM pods of any sort.

[ColoKent]

...an EB-57 in FSX-- the Alphasim one is really long in the tooth. The EE Canberra of course has been done ad nauseaum....

K

[oakfloor]

No jet yet..have money to spend, just dont know when, I can fly a saber, and pay you for your labor, post link up and make a buck so I can fly so low I make you duck..

[Sundog]

A Milviz B-57, I'd be all over that.

[MenendezDiego]

As requested by Kiwikat :wavey:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8470/8081961208_e5faf4f30d_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8330/8081961030_58ae9aee57_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8325/8081961298_00d4406c27_b.jpg


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8054/8081966349_b239aa49ac_b.jpg


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8050/8081966589_f12d1caedd_b.jpg

Regards, Diego

[wapanomi]

As I already wrote about the F15 elsewhere, there's sensuality in these textures... I've never seen other cockpit with that feeling that you can touch the metal, the paint or the glass and they will feel like metal, paint or glass... This is a masterpiece, and I could buy this plane for this sole reason, like a book or a picture.

[Anneke]

All nice and dandy (it really is nice :)) but as has been asked before and not answered. How's this airplane replicating the systems? I want to have some work to do in the cockpit. I want to have to worry about flame outs and it's quirks in flight behaviour. Is it replicated and to what extent?

Thank guys for making such a beautiful aircraft (as all your stuff)!

73901
I know it's the "K" but still beautiful!

[MenendezDiego]

Anneke,

I'll let one of the development/coder guys answer that question for you :)

[Dave Torkington]

Stunning pictures Diego, thanks for posting!

As a user of Gmax [ok, a very poor one] and Paint Shop Pro, I'm just gobsmacked at the care and detail... Just look at the wiring coil to the map lamp - amazing.

I'm sure many of you recall the FS9 F-86 made by Kirk Olsson? It was superb for it's time, but my we've come a long way thanks to great developers such as Milviz.

Plastic is at the ready for this beauty.

Dave.

[krazycolin]

@Anneke: the plane is not exactly complex in terms of systems. The only major thing we didn't do (yet) is the weapons/radar system(s). As for flameouts... it wasn't known for that but, that said... there are things that can "happen"... bad things....

[hairyspin]

As requested by Kiwikat...

DANG! MD, you really know how to put a chap off his 3ds Max experimenting! OTOH, I look closer at how detailed the modeling is, what's simple and what's more complex and I think someday...

Colin and crew, that's the best thing for FSX I've ever seen. Congratulations to you all! :icon29::icon29::icon29: (still saving my pennies...)

[Stickshaker]

Those shots radiate immersion, Diego! I'll buy this beauty as soon as it is released.

[roger-wilco-66]

These cockpit images are stunning. A definite buy!

Cheeers,
Mark

[Kiwikat]

Awesome shots, Diego! Thanks! :ernae:

[stovall]

Diego, what airshow did you visit to get those shots. Absolutely fantastic. This is definitely a must for me. Thanks for sharing.

[Quicksand]

Awesome pics Diego. :isadizzy: I'm warming up my credit card as we speak..:applause::medals::icon29::guinness:

[MenendezDiego]

Thanks for all the kind words. It's been a pleasure working on this project. The real thanks should go to our modelers and painters. They're some of the best in the industry!

[skyhawka4m]

Well.....I know I sometimes seem to be a sour grape but I have renewed my interest in the MILVIZ products thanks to their customer service. I will be buying this one...and mayu be testing the F-15E for a possible purchase at some point.

[Geomitrak]

Is this the same Sabre that was shown with the over-done weathering and domed rivets a few months ago ? Can't remember if that was by Milviz, but whatever, THIS one is great !

Check out that coiled flex at the left - a classic case of 'the little details that really make a model'. Lovely work, and as somebody who prefers props, even I might get it.




http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8050/8081966589_f12d1caedd_b.jpg

Regards, Diego

[Ian Warren]

There is nothing like flicking across to this thread and seeing cockpit screens like that .. WOW i'm scared to touch the monitor in case a start something up or turn something on or forbid , drop a couple tanks :icon_lol:

[Felixthreeone]

Well.....I know I sometimes seem to be a sour grape but I have renewed my interest in the MILVIZ products thanks to their customer service. I will be buying this one...and mayu be testing the F-15E for a possible purchase at some point.



...I beg you to reconsider on the F-15E. DO NOT BUY THIS ADDON!!!!


....Because of the Milviz F-15E, I have no AI aircraft in my sim (I used the F-15E to shoot them all down), no addon scenery (I bombed it all to heck), and no one wants to fly with me in multiplayer. Ever. I have no AI, scenery, or flying friends as a result of the Milviz Strike Eagle. Stay away from it....it is as addictive as any drug out there, and can cause serious side effects in real life (like starting fights with total strangers for no reason at all just because the F-15E makes you feel invincible). So, I say again, DO NOT BUY IT!!

[Naruto-kun]

Hmm....wonder what will happen when I throw TACPAC into the mix....Lets see how much more addictive i can make it.

[Roadburner440]

Matt that is pretty hilarious right there. :icon_lol: Really made my day with that post.

Geomitrik: Yeah this is the same F-86 Sabre. We like details, so the first pass on the rivets was just a tad bit over done. We do appreciate the kind remarks though.

[krazycolin]

It's the same sabre but, as we had said back then, it was WIP... and we thank the people who made comments about it and showed us pics... we made the appropriate changes and we're very happy with how it's turned out...

Matt, you had me there for a second... Thanks for the compliment... it made my day too.

Concerning Tacpack... We are waiting to see what kind of SDK VRS offers before we start any kind of integration(s).

[OleBoy]

I never have had a thing for jets. BUT THIS ONE, may very well be my first!
It IS, uhemm, vintage you know :icon_lol:

The Sabre looks fantastic!!

[MenendezDiego]

I won't use the s-word, but I can say I'm looking forward to all the screenshots and repaints in the near future!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8048/8089465962_1a25d2a47c_c.jpg

And again, the team would like to thank everyone for the kind words. We're all proud of the Sabre.

All the best, Diego

[skyhawka4m]

Glad you did this repaint....did you happen to do the unit with the blue lightning bolt also?

[Skyhawk18]

Glad you did this repaint....did you happen to do the unit with the blue lightning bolt also?

No, but we do have one with a red lightning bolt. :icon_lol:

http://www.gunnarvm.com/F86/096.jpg

[Stickshaker]

Concerning Tacpack... We are waiting to see what kind of SDK VRS offers before we start any kind of integration(s).

I sure hope the VRS folks are watching this topic too!

[Skyhawk_310R]

Congrats on this pending release, MilViz. Happy for you folks!

Ken

[anthony31]

Exceptional modelling and texturing. Arguably the best ever seen in FSX.

Just went to visit the website and noticed that images weren't showing (little red boxes and placeholders only)
http://www.milviz.com/fs/item.php?id=F-86

[MenendezDiego]

Exceptional modelling and texturing. Arguably the best ever seen in FSX.

Just went to visit the website and noticed that images weren't showing (little red boxes and placeholders only)
http://www.milviz.com/fs/item.php?id=F-86

You're correct. I have a lot of work to do.

[Ian Warren]

You're correct. I have a lot of work to do.
All good things take time , just like a good New Zealand chesse .. crikey! love the recent screens :cool:

[skyhawka4m]

Always loved this image...and the loadout...

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[skyhawka4m]

another very cool site...

http://jetpilotoverseas.wordpress.com/


awesome bob hoover video...

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1kn7p_rare-legend-bob-hoover-fly-with-f86_auto


wonder if we could get the loadout like this one?

http://youtu.be/D7VYrhfDJeQ

[FlameOut]

Thanks for that link, skyhawka4m, the links at the bottom reveal a treasure of stuff worthy of "bookmarking". Fantastic pics.

[oakfloor]

It looks like the saber about 10,000 miles out and still on final?:jump:

[MudMarine]

It looks like the saber about 10,000 miles out and still on final?:jump:

Ya, I guess some people have a diffrent definition of "on final" than we do. It's starting to sound like the S-word..."soon".

[krazycolin]

well,, we COULD release it now but you'd have some bugs... We'd rather kill them and get it right than wrong...

Sorry for the delay.

[stovall]

Thanks Colin, sounds like the right plan to me. Looking forward to the release when you and your crew think it is ready.

[Ian Warren]

Thanks Colin, sounds like the right plan to me. Looking forward to the release when you and your crew think it is ready.

I concur because the next 'S' word will be Sweeeet!

[Dain Arns]

http://ninapaley.com/mimiandeunice/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/ME_113_Patience-640x199.png (http://ninapaley.com/mimiandeunice/2010/08/09/patience/)

[fox18delta]

another very cool site...

http://jetpilotoverseas.wordpress.com/


awesome bob hoover video...

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1kn7p_rare-legend-bob-hoover-fly-with-f86_auto


wonder if we could get the loadout like this one?

http://youtu.be/D7VYrhfDJeQ


Wow, thanks for the links.
I love the vintage pics on "Jet Pilot Overseas"
Just wonderful.
paul

[MudMarine]

well,, we COULD release it now but you'd have some bugs... We'd rather kill them and get it right than wrong...

Sorry for the delay.


Kill the bugs! Kill the bugs! I'll probably be broke-ass when it is released.....life just isn't fair! LOL:icon_lol:

[Mathias]

As requested by Kiwikat :wavey:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8470/8081961208_e5faf4f30d_b.jpg


Regards, Diego

Stellar work on that pit!
Might become the first Jet I'm interested in, and that'd be due the cockpit artwork alone!

[krazycolin]

Mathias, coming from you, that is a compliment indeed...

Thanks

[OleBoy]

Decisions, decisions. I suppose if the Sabre is released first, I won't have to decide which one I purchase. I was waiting on the Kingair.
Colin and team, STOP MAKING YOUR MODELS SO DAMN INVITING!!!

Forget my last comment. You folks are raising the bar in our realism! :salute::icon_lol:

[oakfloor]

well,, we COULD release it now but you'd have some bugs... We'd rather kill them and get it right than wrong...

Sorry for the delay.

You made the arrival sound imminent, This is the only software Im going to buy anytime soon, so yes Im wanting it. Beside I watched the movie "Towards the unknown" last night and now Im a test pilot!:icon_lol:

[MenendezDiego]

You made the arrival sound imminent, This is the only software Im going to buy anytime soon, so yes Im wanting it. Beside I watched the movie "Towards the unknown" last night and now Im a test pilot!:icon_lol:

I watched that too! Awesome movie!

With regard to the Sabre still being on 'final'...I have been going to sleep at around 6:00AM for the past few days trying to keep things organized.

We're working extremely hard, but we don't want to leave anything to chance!

Thank you all for your support and patience.

Regards, Diego

[oakfloor]

I watched that too! Awesome movie!

With regard to the Sabre still being on 'final'...I have been going to sleep at around 6:00AM for the past few days trying to keep things organized.

We're working extremely hard, but we don't want to leave anything to chance!

Thank you all for your support and patience.

Regards, Diego

Take a day off..it's OK:mixedsmi:

[MenendezDiego]

Take a day off..it's OK:mixedsmi:

That is not going to happen. We will continue working till she's ready :salute:

Matter of fact, this baby just came off the assembly line. Think I'll give her a testeroo:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8191/8095828154_4986b81cb1_c.jpg

[skyhawka4m]

Can you please include a clean paint like this???? I love a clean jet with no markings! Wish I was a tester myself...that is beautiful!!!

[JAllen]

Factory fresh skin works IF you have a factory fresh cockpit to match. With all the work in this one, I don't expect that will happen.

[DagR]

I'll make the paint kit as easy as possible to use.
A total of 17 liveries has been made for this bird (it was difficult to stop painting :icon_lol:)

However, only 6 liveries will be a part of the release. The rest will come as two optional downloads.

Here's an other USAFE paint:

http://www.gunnarvm.com/F86/USAFE.jpg

...and maybe this one will be familiar to some of you
http://www.gunnarvm.com/F86/SB.jpg

I hope for a simple repaint kit as well, I use Corel Photopaint and that is not compatible with all the advanced layer settings for PS.

[RyanJames170]

you might want to try out GIMP http://www.gimp.org/ about as close as u will get unless u get PS


I hope for a simple repaint kit as well, I use Corel Photopaint and that is not compatible with all the advanced layer settings for PS.

[fallenphoenix1986]

I'll second the request for the blank skin, looks really cool with no markings :cool:

Craig

[DagR]

you might want to try out GIMP http://www.gimp.org/ about as close as u will get unless u get PS

I have PS but I prefer Corel PP.


Best
DagR

[stovall]

DagR, glad to hear that. I also have Photo Shop but have always preferred Corel Paint Shop Pro. Coming from a pro like you, makes me feel better. :icon_lol:

[VinFlyer]

I have PS but I prefer Microsoft Paint :kilroy:

[fsafranek]

I have PS but I prefer Microsoft Paint :kilroy:
Paint is certainly affordable and I don't know whether or not you're joking but in years past that has been the case. Several designers I've had to work with were not painters and when they did paint they used MS Paint. As a result they painted the aircraft almost from scratch for each scheme.


I have PS but I prefer Corel PP.

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DagR
Same here. Find it too expensive to own the latest PS so a lot of repaint kits can't be used. I end up having to rebuild them for my own use layer by layer from what does come across. But that's a personal issue.

But more on topic, the blank bare metal F-86 looks very fine. Always nice to have a "blank" canvas to work from.
:ernae:

[OleBoy]

Paint wise, this is one I would never touch as far as repainting is concerned because from the looks of the schemes that are being done, they are the crem de la crem. I would have no desires for any other schemes.
For those who will be painting this one, I agree. Having a blank bare metal texture will save them from a lot of editing and build-up for the acquired "finished" look.

What's already been shown for schemes that appear to be available at, or close to release, they look remarkably done.

[skyhawka4m]

Paint wise, this is one I would never touch as far as repainting is concerned because from the looks of the schemes that are being done, they are the crem de la crem. I would have no desires for any other schemes.
For those who will be painting this one, I agree. Having a blank bare metal texture will save them from a lot of editing and build-up for the acquired "finished" look.

What's already been shown for schemes that appear to be available at, or close to release, they look remarkably done.


I agreee but hope for an ANG scheme or two.

[Ian Warren]

As long as the striped down bare metal jobbie is in the package , the world will be your Bluff Oyster :cool:

[snow_white]

Decisions, decisions. I suppose if the Sabre is released first, I won't have to decide which one I purchase. I was waiting on the Kingair.
Colin and team, STOP MAKING YOUR MODELS SO DAMN INVITING!!!

Forget my last comment. You folks are raising the bar in our realism! :salute::icon_lol:


Same here, just picked up the kingair with my monthly limit of 1 plane a month.. sabre will have to wait till next month.!

[ColoKent]

....budget rules are meant to be broken! (i.e. "One plane per month...")-- just ask the Government!!!

Kent

[Barnes]

ive been really prudent for a change just lately so ive got the Kingair and cant wait for the Sabre.

[DagR]

I have PS but I prefer Microsoft Paint :kilroy:

LOL!


Best
DagR

[krazycolin]

The paint kit will have the CS (photoshop) layers unfortunately.

We MAY be able to produce one that doesn't as a simplified version...

I will look into this...

[DennyA]

I will be buying this. :) If you make a version for DCS, you can sell it to me twice!

[krazycolin]

Perhaps one day we will do something in DCS but probably not any time soon....

[skyhawka4m]

Perhaps one day we will do something in DCS but probably not any time soon....


Thank god!!! Its sad to see what has happened to one well known developer lately as it seems they have too much going on and nothing getting completed.

[DagR]

Thank god!!! Its sad to see what has happened to one well known developer lately as it seems they have too much going on and nothing getting completed.

Who's that?


Best
DagR

[MenendezDiego]

Guys, let's get back on topic here.

We're in the process of making the final build. Lots of late hours for everyone!

All the best, Diego

[skyhawka4m]

LOL!!!! I was hoping this beauty would have been out yesterday for my Bday darn it! Love these markings myself and how about those nice big fuel tanks for extra long range!

74168

[snow_white]

....budget rules are meant to be broken! (i.e. "One plane per month...")-- just ask the Government!!!

Kent

Should have kept my money for the sabre.. should have known better, now I have to wait another 2 weeks for payday, (hopefully, at leat by then it surely would have been released).:icon_lol:


well the positive thing is I dont mind them taking a day or two longer to release... I cannot buy it anyway.. LOL..!! So for me the "LONG" final is all OK..!!

[CODY]

Soooo....I went to check....And this is how the page opened....

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c264/CODY614/QW%20146/fsscr088.jpg

Then....the page loaded fully...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c264/CODY614/QW%20146/fsscr093.jpg

Heart attack! They updated the product page....soon?

[krazycolin]

allllllmooooooost

[Montie]

allllllmooooooost
Waiting for this one is really tough:jump:

[n4gix]

If you think just "waiting" is frustrating, think a moment about us poor folks slaving away 16 hours/day for the past week or more tracking down and nailing the last niggling detail... :isadizzy:

[CODY]

If you think just "waiting" is frustrating, think a moment about us poor folks slaving away 16 hours/day for the past week or more tracking down and nailing the last niggling detail... :isadizzy:

Only 16?
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c264/CODY614/driller.gif

We love ya tho...
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c264/CODY614/pink.gif

[MenendezDiego]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8334/8106455494_4a876b7762_b.jpg

[Skyhawk18]

Dawn flight

http://www.gunnarvm.com/F86/panel.jpg

[Montie]

Those gauges look brilliant! Beautiful work with lighting of the gauges:icon_eek:

[Ian Warren]

I think we are going to get some very interesting screens in the next couple of weeks .. the jet powered mustang of the skies the Sabre :cool:<input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><input jscode="leoInternalChangeDone()" onclick="if(typeof(jsCall)=='function'){jsCall();}else{setT imeout('jsCall()',500);}" id="jsProxy" type="hidden">

[SADT]

Hi,

This looks awesome! Here I was, thinking nothing could beat the SF8 freeware and then this came along. :salute:

Will there be a South African "Flying Cheetahs" livery?

Craig.

[Whitehawk]

If you think just "waiting" is frustrating, think a moment about us poor folks slaving away 16 hours/day for the past week or more tracking down and nailing the last niggling detail... :isadizzy:

Hope there aren't many of those last niggling details left! Looking forward to seeing the Sabre in all her glory, and getting into aerobatics in that gorgeous Goldenhawks livery!

[keatles]

Hi,

Will there be a South African "Flying Cheetahs" livery?

Craig.

Craig

Once released and bought, I will be doing the livery of the F-86 "Black Dick" flown in Korea by my late friend Henk Ludick.

Once the basic livery is done, it will be easy enough to do other personalised liveries for 2 Squadron Sabres.

Cheers

[Ian Warren]

SADT , Whitehawk , Keatles , excluding the peoples hiding behind their mothers dress's make's Four Sabre rattling Kiwi's in a row :cost1:<input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><input jscode="leoInternalChangeDone()" onclick="if(typeof(jsCall)=='function'){jsCall();}else{setT imeout('jsCall()',500);}" id="jsProxy" type="hidden"><input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><input onclick="if(typeof(jsCall)=='function'){jsCall();}else{setT imeout('jsCall()',500);}" id="jsProxy" type="hidden">

[skyhawka4m]

count me in on this baby.....paint brush in hand!

[ColinT46]

Can someone confirm if this baby will have a P3D installer please.



Colin.

[krazycolin]

It works in P3D. All you have to is change the location of the install path. Easy to do.

[ColinT46]

Thanks KrazyColin,

Looks like I'll be another customer.

[skyhawka4m]

its been too quiet!!!1 WAKE UP IN HERE!!!!! :salute:

[Whitehawk]

People are starting to go crazy waiting for this release, gotta be a good feeling for the dev's knowing how anticipated their work is! :jump:

[krazycolin]

Last little things... AOA shakes, rattles and inop switches...

[Ian Warren]

Naaah Whitehawk .. i just run around in circles :running: yelling jibber jibber jibber jibber jibber and before you no it ! the day is gone :icon_lol:<input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><input jscode="leoInternalChangeDone()" onclick="if(typeof(jsCall)=='function'){jsCall();}else{setT imeout('jsCall()',500);}" id="jsProxy" type="hidden">

[bully707]

People are starting to go crazy waiting for this release, gotta be a good feeling for the dev's knowing how anticipated their work is! :jump:

Oh boy...you have no idea! :icon_lol:
This is the first add-on that really seems to be touching my heart. I HAVE to have it.
Hasn't happened before...ever...:icon_eek:

[MenendezDiego]

Please be gentle...this was filmed with my iPhone, my voice is barely audible, and many features weren't present at the time of filming (AoA buffet for example).



http://youtu.be/_1q1jV4M3Ew?hd=1

As for what's going on, a quick takeoff, some flying (of course), a stall recovery, and a poor attempt at a low pass down center-line.

Regards, Diego

[DagR]

Please be gentle...this was filmed with my iPhone, my voice is barely audible, and many features weren't present at the time of filming (AoA buffet for example).



http://youtu.be/_1q1jV4M3Ew?hd=1

As for what's going on, a quick takeoff, some flying (of course), a stall recovery, and a poor attempt at a low pass down center-line.

Regards, Diego

Using the iPhone, that was just great :-)


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DagR

[YoYo]

Cant wait! I follow this project from the beginning. Looks amazing, quality product!
I hope this "soon" will be very "soon" :mixedsmi: .

[Kiwikat]

Bumpity Bump :monkies:

[krazycolin]

we're putting the final touches on... I know I KNOW it's been a while... we are working on it every single day. Want this to be the best release yet!

[Ian Warren]

If the T-38 is anything to go by Colin , this is going to be the bee's knees ... and look at Diego really winding us up :icon_lol:<input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><input jscode="leoInternalChangeDone()" onclick="if(typeof(jsCall)=='function'){jsCall();}else{setT imeout('jsCall()',500);}" id="jsProxy" type="hidden">

[Whitehawk]

From the sounds of things this IS going to be the best release yet, and well worth waiting for! :salute:

[griphos]

I'm definitely looking forward to this one. Always have had a soft spot for the Sabre.

I'm wondering, though, has there been attention given to multiplayer flooding? The T-38 is very bad in that respect, for instance.

[MudMarine]

Has anyone launched the SAR helo yet? :mixedsmi:

[krazycolin]

Actually, the T-38's flooding issues were fixed some time ago... so, not sure where you're getting your info.

[Ian Warren]

I'm wondering, though, has there been attention given to multiplayer flooding? The T-38 is very bad in that respect, for instance.

I have not tried a MP only one person i no with the Talon , i normally run most multiplays in New Zealand so it would be interesting to try out .
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[Ian Warren]

Actually, the T-38's flooding issues were fixed some time ago... so, not sure where you're getting your info.
Thanks for the HU Colin , I missed the posting and simply have not found anyone within time frame to try i'll get Kade to try it with me tonight , i'm sure i'll be pleased :cool:

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[Roadburner440]

Has anyone launched the SAR helo yet? :mixedsmi:

Is down for a D Phase inspection... :icon_lol: Ah the real life head aches.

[griphos]

Actually, the T-38's flooding issues were fixed some time ago... so, not sure where you're getting your info.

From testing it in multiplayer. I'll test it again.

[Jafo]

Any chance of a CAC 27 ? ......[only a "little" extra work]....;)

[Naruto-kun]

From testing it in multiplayer. I'll test it again.

Make sure you test it with the latest model. As for the Sabre, I made darned certain that there is no flooding of key events. Its way easier to control them with C++ than XML anyway.

[griphos]

Make sure you test it with the latest model. As for the Sabre, I made darned certain that there is no flooding of key events. Its way easier to control them with C++ than XML anyway.

I will. But very good news on the Sabre!

[griphos]

How do we make sure we have the latest version of the T-38?

I don't own it (since it was flooding as recently as August when one of the guys was talking with you about it on your forum), but several of the guys on the MP server do, and they are pretty sure they have the latest version. Perhaps not, so if you could explain how to ensure we do, that would help.

[krazycolin]

Go to our forums. Get the latest from your vendor.

[griphos]

Yes, that's Flight1. Is there some way we ensure that we're getting the latest version using the Flight1 interface? Just reinstall?

Because testing the version we have shows flooding of at least 10/1 still. I'm encouraged to hear that it is easier to avoid these issues on the Sabre because of the programming language used, and that attention has been paid to this, but would be more confident of that if I could assure myself that the T-38 has indeed been fixed.

[krazycolin]

No further comments on that subject will be handled here on SOH.

If you want help, please come to our forums.

All of our new products do support MP and we stand by that.

Thanks.

[griphos]

I'm not wanting help, actually, since I don't own the T-38, as I said. Didn't mean to hijack the thread. I asked about whether attention to flooding has been paid on the Sabre, and referenced the flooding of the T-38 as an example. You said it was fixed. This is what led me to follow up with questions about that. On your forum now, though, I see it hasn't fully been fixed. But that is a matter of the T-38 and so I will let that drop here, as you suggest.

As I said, I'm encouraged by what you and Naruto-kun have to say. I'd love to have the Sabre. It is an iconic plane, one of my all-time favorites, and looks like you guys have done simply an amazing job on it. But I rarely fly single-player, and our MP servers often have several dozen people on it at once. If the Sabre floods, it's a no-go for me and most of the guys I fly with. So, I'm very much hoping it doesn't. And I'm glad to hear that MP compatibility is a priority for your new releases.

[krazycolin]

Well then, it's a good thing that I say that it has been tested for it. And, don't forget, you get 30 days to try it.

I do need to stress that I never and will not say that MP is a priority. It isn't. It's just in the list as one of the things to be checked, tested and verified.

[ColoKent]

....F-86F!!!! Can't wait....

K

[Whitehawk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQL9Kxxd88s

Us on release day? Or just me lol! From the days before CGI, possibly one of the earliest squadron music videos!

[snow_white]

No further comments on that subject will be handled here on SOH.

If you want help, please come to our forums.

All of our new products do support MP and we stand by that.

Thanks.

So it is still the same old same old..

The guy only asked how can he insure he got the latest version..

what is easier to say, open the plane, check in aircraft.cg or where-ever, there you will find an entry at the top saying version 2.9B. when you see that, you know you have latest.

:barf:

[krazycolin]

This isn't meant as an attack merely as information for your thought(s)...

Not a single one of our vendors stops you (the client) from downloading and (re-) installing what you paid for. Not one. All, repeat all of our vendors have the latest of all of our products. We send it to them at the same time in the same email. So, unless there's someone who cannot download and reinstall (or install as the case maybe) his/her product I'm not seeing what the big deal is for a: not providing support on SOH (been banned already and had to use proxies to do everything. Not fun) and b: not providing support for someone who doesn't even own the product.

On this matter, and for all support issues for all MV products, our forums or the Avsim MV forums are where you will get your answers. This is how we can make sure that we answer all issues in the same manner.

[skyhawka4m]

Sounds good Krazy!! Now where's my F-86F? :salute::wiggle::wavey::jump:

[griphos]

Yeah, I'm good. I have concerns still, but as long as I can return the Sabre if it floods, then I'll be getting it as soon as it's released. Looking forward to the Cobra as well. Amazing cockpit on that.

[snow_white]

This isn't meant as an attack merely as information for your thought(s)...

Not a single one of our vendors stops you (the client) from downloading and (re-) installing what you paid for. Not one. All, repeat all of our vendors have the latest of all of our products. We send it to them at the same time in the same email. So, unless there's someone who cannot download and reinstall (or install as the case maybe) his/her product I'm not seeing what the big deal is for a: not providing support on SOH (been banned already and had to use proxies to do everything. Not fun) and b: not providing support for someone who doesn't even own the product.

On this matter, and for all support issues for all MV products, our forums or the Avsim MV forums are where you will get your answers. This is how we can make sure that we answer all issues in the same manner.

Well it has been proven numerous times that vendors not always have the latest version. So please the guy do not have an support issue. He merely asked how does he know he has the latest version. Every developer somewhere have a place where they record the latest version.

So again, what is easier to say, go look in that file, if it show version 2.9 then you good to go with latest version.

Why for heavens sake do I need to go download a product and still I dont know if I have the latest version. it is not about downloading latest version it is about how do I know I actually have got the latest version even though I just downloaded the "lastest" version. NOT all vendors are always up to date, and that has been proven over again and again. Even I havee had a similar issue where a product was updated, but the update was send to the vendor the vendor appearently never received it and never uploaded it. In that case I had to download the product 4 times until I eventually got the right version and that was only after the developer intervened and contacted the vendor.

I have numerous times asked a similar type qquestion on forums not related to the developer "support" forum and always have been told "just go there, left top corner on that file, you will see the version. does it match the latest version. Yes, you OK, No, time to further invetsigate why you dont have latest.

Personally, I am not going to log a support call unless I know I have the wrong version. Finding out if I have the right/wrong version is for me just an absolutely no issue and can be determined from any forum as most people know where to look for the version number.

So stop thinking we critising you, so stop getting thing in a knot over nothing. Just another case where I find the answer "rude" and that is my personal observation, but then again its not been the first time and surely it will not be the last time we will see this.

[stovall]

This product as Diego says is on FINAL. There are no support issues with the Sabre as of yet. This thread is about the upcoming F-86 Sabre not issues with MILVIZ. Please take any issues you have with MILVIZ directly to them. It is best not to bring up the past but to look forward. Please keep this thread on track about what looks to be one of the best aircraft releases yet.

[MenendezDiego]

This product as Diego says is on FINAL. There are no support issues with the Sabre as of yet. This thread is about the upcoming F-86 Sabre not issues with MILVIZ. Please take any issues you have with MILVIZ directly to them. It is best not to bring up the past but to look forward. Please keep this thread on track about what looks to be one of the best aircraft releases yet.

Very well put. One correction though...we're in the FLARE now :jump:

Regards, Diego

[RyanJames170]

Very well put. One correction though...we're in the FLARE now :jump:

Regards, Diego

so maybe next week we might get to have a F-86 to play with :jump:?

[bstolle]

so maybe next week we might get to have a F-86 to play with :jump:?

If she was on 'final' the last few days, I'd say that she's now already in the final stages of the flare, just about to be greased on.....

[krazycolin]

Soon. Very soon

[Ian Warren]

I'd say that she's now already in the final stages of the flare, just about to be greased on.....

:icon_lol: Greased on ... jeppers , got me slip sliders out ready for the ride ;)

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[YoYo]

Soon. Very soon

I start counting for...

http://drinkman.com.pl/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/szampan.jpg

:icon_lol:

[Whitehawk]

Very well put. One correction though...we're in the FLARE now :jump:

Regards, Diego
Ah yes but what point defines release? Touchdown or after shutdown :icon_lol: lol!

[MenendezDiego]

I'm not going to keep you guys in the dark. That's one thing I dislike seeing from developers as a consumer.

We are awaiting the final version of the manual to be sent. Once that is done, the installer will be compiled, and sent for a final testing. Once that gets the green light, we release.

Regards, Diego

[Whitehawk]

Thank you for the info Diego! Don't mind me, just one of those who think you have all done an outstanding job on the Sabre, and are looking forward to release! (When it's ready!)

[RyanJames170]

sounds good to me.. i went and got the A2A P-51 so i can have a nice F-51 to go with the saber, still need a Mig 15 though and Mig-21

[Scratch]

I'm not going to keep you guys in the dark. That's one thing I dislike seeing from developers as a consumer.

We are awaiting the final version of the manual to be sent. Once that is done, the installer will be compiled, and sent for a final testing. Once that gets the green light, we release.

Regards, Diego

Hell, if it's that close I'm gonna start drinkin' beer and not stop 'till it's ready. I swear.....I'm gonna do it..........I already started so if I pass out it's y'alls fault.:icon29::icon_lol:

[CODY]

I'm not going to keep you guys in the dark. That's one thing I dislike seeing from developers as a consumer.

We are awaiting the final version of the manual to be sent. Once that is done, the installer will be compiled, and sent for a final testing. Once that gets the green light, we release.

Regards, Diego
I see one very important thing missing here....you guys running for cover when the server blows up up from the sales it will draw in the first hour or so!:pop4:

[jeansy]

http://aussiex.org/forum/uploads/gallery/album_139/gallery_11700_139_2367572.png

I love the detail the guys have done

http://aussiex.org/forum/uploads/gallery/album_139/gallery_11700_139_228455.png

http://aussiex.org/forum/uploads/gallery/album_139/gallery_11700_139_474828.png

Gunnar has done an outstanding job on the textures, Im envious after I had a look at the paint kit

from what ive seen so far and im a anal retentive bastard at times, you wont be disspointed with detail and FPS

[griphos]

Yes, the VC of both this bird and the upcoming Cobra set new standards. Just stunning detail.

[Scratch]

Burp............looks like it's gonna be a long night, but dang this Sam Adams Whitewater IPA is good!:cool:

[krazycolin]

Damn!!! I WISH I had one (or 6) of those right now... All I can get here is smithwicks in a can... and it's no friggin good compared to sam a....

Oh well...

[Scratch]

Damn!!! I WISH I had one (or 6) of those right now... All I can get here is smithwicks in a can... and it's no friggin good compared to sam a....

Oh well...

I'll hoist ten or twelve in your honor for producing such a fine looking aircraft as my supply has yet to run out. I brew my own also so my reverse beer strike can go on for quite some time. The Sabre is beautiful, this is gonna be a real treat.:salute:

[krazycolin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnZyTY1q8BU&feature=plcp