146-200 Jetliner at Justflight is out (Payware)

[Pepere]

http://www.justflight.com/product/146-200-jetliner (http://www.justflight.com/product/146-200-jetliner)

David

[Barnes]

Thanks - downloading now.

[bushpilot]

Looks pretty darn good. If it had Quiet Trader variant, it would be an insta-buy for me. Waiting for some reviews now. Seems like FMC comes in extra package with extra cost.

[Ian Warren]

I'd better have a look at this one later this sarvo , Ansett operated these in late 80s early 90s and currently one operated by Vincent Aviation from Wellington New Zealand . :cool:<input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><!--Session data--><input jscode="leoInternalChangeDone()" onclick="if(typeof(jsCall)=='function'){jsCall();}else{setT imeout('jsCall()',500);}" id="jsProxy" type="hidden">

[jeansy]

Would like to see the paint kit for it

is it available for download or is it a part of the package ?

[Sascha66]

I have waited about a decade for this to be modelled and now there are 2 counting the one from Quality WIngs that will be released within months :isadizzy:

[Lionheart]

That is one sweet looking VC!

:medals:

[Barnes]

OMG - just flown it once and now removed it from my pc - its just lacking and disappointing. VC is terrible yet it looked fine in screen shots.

It sure is not Capt sim standard by any means. Shame really.

[N2056]

I have waited about a decade for this to be modelled and now there are 2 counting the one from Quality WIngs that will be released within months :isadizzy:

There is a thread on this plane over at Avsim. According to the information in that thread Quality Wings made this model for JustFlight.

[Snurdley]

CLS made it for Just Flight

[jeansy]

OMG - just flown it once and now removed it from my pc - its just lacking and disappointing. VC is terrible yet it looked fine in screen shots.

It sure is not Capt sim standard by any means. Shame really.

Thank you for your honest opinion, i was just sitting here really contemplating on getting it, if its not worth the price, i will hold off for now

[N2056]

CLS made it for Just Flight

Ack! you are correct...:redface:

[Barnes]

Hi Jeansy

The external model is nicely done and i did find a very user friendly paint kit - its just the VC that lets it down in my eyes - looks flat and simular to an Alphasim made product .

[bushpilot]

OMG - just flown it once and now removed it from my pc - its just lacking and disappointing. VC is terrible yet it looked fine in screen shots.



The avsim thread seemed to indicate, that it would be nice aircraft, I'm confused. I think I'll pass for now, it's expensive considering that the system modeling is 'light'. If they add QT-model, I'll reconsider.

[Martyn]

Hi Jeansy

The external model is nicely done and i did find a very user friendly paint kit - its just the VC that lets it down in my eyes - looks flat and simular to an Alphasim made product .

Obviously I have bias, but I find the comment absolutely bizarre as I would honestly say that its one of the nicest VCs (high quality texturing, all switches/knobs/levers 3D modelled) that I have ever used:

http://justflight.info/sites/microsites/Screenshots/146_VC1.jpg

http://justflight.info/sites/microsites/Screenshots/146_VC2.jpg

http://justflight.info/sites/microsites/Screenshots/146_VC3.jpg

I must be missing something :running:


it's expensive considering that the system modeling is 'light'

The systems modelling isn't that light, certainly far more advanced/complex than any previous CLS developed title. I enjoy complex airliners and this certainly ticks all the boxes for me.


If they add QT-model, I'll reconsider.

Glad to hear it. Keep an eye out on our site.

[bushpilot]

The systems modelling isn't that light, certainly far more advanced/complex than any previous CLS developed title. I enjoy complex airliners and this certainly ticks all the boxes for me.



Well I sort of got confused, when there was mention of F-Lite system, but it was referring to FMC, so I stand corrected. And from your shots it looks really good!

I think I have to go buy it after all. Analog-decked short hauler is something I've been missing. Any chance of that QT-model in the future?

[Martyn]

Unfortunately we've found the level of complexity hard to explain, it certainly doesn't fit neatly into either the F-Lite or Professional ranges, it is somewhere in between and therefore it should suit both markets. You can either use the 'Auto start' button to get flying quickly or follow the detailed check-lists and configure all of the systems properly (nearly every switch is clickable and functioning).


Any chance of that QT-model in the future?

Yes :jump:


As I say, I am of course biased but I really have enjoyed working on this airliner and writing the manual. It is a credit to the developers at CLS, a beautiful piece of work.

[bushpilot]

Okay then, purchased and downloading now :salute: Nice to hear the QT is in the works:jump:

[Barnes]

As I say, I am of course biased but I really have enjoyed working on this airliner and writing the manual. It is a credit to the developers at CLS, a beautiful piece of work.

Hi Martyn

I have put it back on my pc but cant find in the manual where you click to get the door animation panel to appear - it tells me about it but i just cant find reference to how you get it to show.

Also to define my comments about theVC - there is no glazing texture so it looks like there is no windscreens, the gauges look flat compared to recently produced addons - are they 3d?

[bushpilot]

Okay quick test hop around Friday Harbor... I really like it, can't say anything about systems yet, but it flies great, has nice soundset, and smooth controlling. Visual model is really purty outside, inside there are spots that are mushier, but I don't care as long as the over all quality and feel is right. It's a keeper for me. I think I'm officially back to tubeliners now. I might squeeze out some paints too. Well done JF/CLS:applause:

edit: I may also add that the framerate is excellent.

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/503bae2.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/198bae1.jpg

[Martyn]

Hi Martyn

I have put it back on my pc but cant find in the manual where you click to get the door animation panel to appear - it tells me about it but i just cant find reference to how you get it to show.

Also to define my comments about theVC - there is no glazing texture so it looks like there is no windscreens, the gauges look flat compared to recently produced addons - are they 3d?

To open the door panel, press the GPU icon. Refer to this FAQ for info on how to access the icons: http://www.justflight.com/supportfaq/146-200#FAQ1

The gauge bezels, knobs and switches are 3D and certain parts of some gauges (e.g. slip indicator on attitude indicator) are also 3D - however the gauge needles are not 3D.

The windscreen glazing is always a tricky one, some users want a glazed texture effect and others prefer clear windscreens.

[Barnes]

I have to say that Im keeping it in the hangar just for the external model which is excellent. However - does anyone find that the external cockpit windscreens are missing on some repaints?

[bushpilot]

Well the paintkit is nice and user friendly until the point you have to start cutting and pasting the paint and aligning it to texture tiles, phew! :icon_lol:

Anyway, Ansett Australia uploaded (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/2917-just-flight-bae-146-vh-ewm/)


http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/352ansett_bae.jpg



I'm fantasizing about doing this paint, we'll see...

http://i.imgur.com/2VAjK.jpg

[dvj]

Okay quick test hop around Friday Harbor... I really like it, can't say anything about systems yet, but it flies great, has nice soundset, and smooth controlling. Visual model is really purty outside, inside there are spots that are mushier, but I don't care as long as the over all quality and feel is right. It's a keeper for me. I think I'm officially back to tubeliners now. I might squeeze out some paints too. Well done JF/CLS:applause:

edit: I may also add that the framerate is excellent.

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/503bae2.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/198bae1.jpg

+1 on the screen shots. Great looking exterior model. Not sure why the negative buzz on the pit. It's not Capt'n Sim, that's for sure. I could not find it on the Capt'n Sim web site. :icon_lol:

[flaviossa]

If the skilled repainters in here are in search for a paint to do in this model and it would make a lot of us happy here is a good example:

70109

I know, it´s a -100 not a -200 but it would be great!
:ernae:

[Sascha66]

Well the paintkit is nice and user friendly until the point you have to start cutting and pasting the paint and aligning it to texture tiles, phew! :icon_lol:

Anyway, Ansett Australia uploaded (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/2917-just-flight-bae-146-vh-ewm/)


http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/352ansett_bae.jpg



I'm fantasizing about doing this paint, we'll see...

http://i.imgur.com/2VAjK.jpg


Awesome paintjob there and really fine screenshots!

[bushpilot]

If the skilled repainters in here are in search for a paint to do in this model and it would make a lot of us happy here is a good example:

70109

I know, it´s a -100 not a -200 but it would be great!
:ernae:


I can do that, I love these retro liveries. Have to wait till the next week though, since I'm now leaving for my well deserved scuba-vacation for the weekend.:running:


And thanks for the compliments guys!

[flaviossa]

Thanks bushpilot! I love retro-paints too. Have a nice scuba weekend! :salute:

[An-225]

I'm fantasizing about doing this paint, we'll see...


Heh, I was going to ask, does Just Flight have any intention to do the BAe-146 STA and BAe-146 CC.2 in addition to the QT? If not, I would LOVE to see this STA paint, bushpilot!

[jeansy]

despite Barnes' advice I took the plunge and got both base pack and FMC addon

im sorry, but all i have to say is, it has a very nice exterior and thats where i going to leave it

I have lots of questions, but I dont want to start a argument

Can I suggest you have the manuals available to download on the product page so people can read what it can and cant do before they purchase it

Martyn how do I go about starting a refund request within the next 28 days as I cant find the contact email address

[Martyn]

Matt,

Here: http://www.justflight.com/contact-us

And here: http://www.justflight.com/support-contact


I have lots of questions, but I dont want to start a argument


No arguments necessary :engel016:. Please send any questions you have to the support team (using the link above). They will be happy to answer any queries about the product.

The abilities/features of the product can be found here: http://www.justflight.com/product/146-200-jetliner

We try to be very clear with our marketing (product details on the website, video etc) what level of complexity the product has. This product sits somewhere in between our F-Lite and Professional ranges and should suit the majority of simmers from both camps, but not all.

[Martyn]

Heh, I was going to ask, does Just Flight have any intention to do the BAe-146 STA and BAe-146 CC.2 in addition to the QT? If not, I would LOVE to see this STA paint, bushpilot!

No plans at present, but we are always open to suggestions if there is sufficient demand (e.g. DC-6 Cargo expansion was developed on the back of feedback here).

[Martyn]

Excellent repaint bushpilot! Hopefully we'll see plenty of repaints for the 146.

[jeansy]

Matt,

Here: http://www.justflight.com/contact-us

And here: http://www.justflight.com/support-contact



No arguments necessary :engel016:. Please send any questions you have to the support team (using the link above). They will be happy to answer any queries about the product.

The abilities/features of the product can be found here: http://www.justflight.com/product/146-200-jetliner

We try to be very clear with our marketing (product details on the website, video etc) what level of complexity the product has. This product sits somewhere in between our F-Lite and Professional ranges and should suit the majority of simmers from both camps, but not all.

thanks for the link, but i dont have 3rd party email programs, as i use my email via weblink, and that link doesnt help as it asks for a program, ive replied to my order emails for the refund

ive read the product page, but it lacks the operation of the fmc and procedures, so in hind sight the product page is useless to work out what it can or cant do, if i knew there was no real vnav or lnav i wouldnt have bought the fmc and no where it mentions it was by CLS

it even say on the product page there is a Lnav when in fact there isnt and the manual says there isnt

[Martyn]

Thanks for the feedback.

The e-mail address for the orders team is orders@justflight.com. If you move your mouse cursor over the link on the contact us page, you should see the address in the bottom corner of your web browser. Alternatively you can use the support section which has an online form that doesn't require the use of an e-mail client.

We tried to make the LNAV functionality clear with this bit of text on the product page:


and LNAV modes. LNAV following FSX GPS flight plan.

I apologise if you found it misleading.

CLS are credited fully in the manual but as this was developed exclusively for Just Flight, and therefore is a Just Flight product, we didn't feel it necessary to make special mention of their involvement in the project on the product page. As publishers of their excellent titles over the past 8 years, it was important to make it clear that this is in fact a Just Flight product and is therefore not available from CLS. This aircraft is part of our Jetliner range, sitting in between F-Lite and Professional in terms of complexity. This is probably clearer to our existing customer base than it is to less regular, or new customers.

[jeansy]

Thank you Martyn

My correction I mean the other other AP nav mode, I also found that when you tried to set the AP IAS it disengaged the ALT or V/S

Again Im sorry, I do understand that you guys worked hard on it, but its not for me in what i was looking for in that model

[Martyn]

The installer has now been updated to include a couple of fixes, an updated manual and Prepar3D compatibility. You just need to download the latest installer from your account and then reinstall the product. Instructions here: http://www.justflight.com/supportfaq/downloads-purchased-after-the-21st-december-2009#FAQ2

[Barnes]

Im still unimpresed with the VC but i love the external model. Working on this repaint - it will be my first and last as the paintkit is a real PIA and there is no proper layering for the engine painting.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-1796.jpg

[Barnes]

Please download repaint from here https://www.cx.com/mycx/share/QAbkz94yEeGIpxICOBql1A/CLS%20BAe%20146%20200%20repaint%20BEA.zip

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-1323.jpg

[Barnes]

Another on the way...
http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-1530.jpg

[Lionheart]

Beautiful looking plane!

Love the massively detailed exterior. I still think that VC is awesome....

[Barnes]

Martyn - can you help re paint kit please?

I have spent 30 mins trying to find where the "open" rear gear cowling needs to be placed once painted. I also find that the other gear cowlings are not layered for shadow, dirt etc. Without help i cant finish this one.

Is anyone else doing any paints anywhere do you know?

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-1774.jpg

[dvj]

Beautiful looking plane!

Love the massively detailed exterior. I still think that VC is awesome....


+1

I broke down and did the purchase after seeing these screen shots. It's certantly better modeled than many payware. May not be for the purists out there, but a nice sim nevertheless. Great 3D interior lighting effect through the passenger windows at night. At least it's not another 737! :icon_lol:

[Sascha66]

Beautiful looking plane!

Love the massively detailed exterior. I still think that VC is awesome....

That VC looks pretty good to me from the screenshots, guess it is difficult to get it right for everyone!

[bushpilot]

Martyn - can you help re paint kit please?

I have spent 30 mins trying to find where the "open" rear gear cowling needs to be placed once painted. I also find that the other gear cowlings are not layered for shadow, dirt etc. Without help i cant finish this one.

Is anyone else doing any paints anywhere do you know?




Open gear doors go to BAe146200_int2.dds tile. In paintkit there's a layer group named "Main gear Door Open" which has the shading, dirt etc, just place the paint below these in that particular group (above "white base copy 3"). Unless of course you happen to use a paint program that does not support Photoshop layer groups.


70222



and there is no proper layering for the engine painting.



Engines do have their own very well layered paint templates.

[Barnes]

Hi

Thanks for that. I have already found all those files but cannot make the paint slip under the detail in any shape or form as you would a normal paint kit . There is no whitebase copy 3 in the kit i have from the download. I do quite a bit of re-painting you know! Have you managed to use it yet to achieve results using the kit that is supplied to customers?

Edit

In fact - i dont have a lot of those fuselarge layers in my kit so no wonder i cant do it.

[bushpilot]

Yes same thing as with gear doors, the engine paint goes to the second lowest layer in the particular "engine group", and gets placed below details. There is own group for each engine side. Hope it helps. I'm not sure if PS Elements fully supported layer groups, if that's the prog you are using.

70223

[Barnes]

Hi Bushpilot

Yes im using Elements- thanks for that.

At least i know not to bother anymore with it.

Cheers

[bushpilot]

Well that's a bummer. Grouping keeps the layers neat and tidy. When there are hundreds of layers, grouping is very welcome.


What I could use, are wing templates. They would come very handy considering that STA-paint, which has camo-patterned wings.

[Barnes]

I think i will do an Aer Lingus version - Elements can cope with anything other than the underside.

[Ark]

I have to say that Im keeping it in the hangar just for the external model which is excellent. However - does anyone find that the external cockpit windscreens are missing on some repaints?

I noticed this as well.

[Barnes]

Please download this repaint from here. https://www.cx.com/mycx/share/yjmujt7aEeG9DRICOA-R7w/CLS%20BAe%20146%20200%20repaint%20Aer%20Lingus.zip

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-1437.jpg

[bushpilot]

Nice one Barnes:salute:


TABA is now uploaded (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/2939-just-flight-bae-146-pt-leq/), didn't do the G-SSHH demonstrator version, but PT-LEQ.

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/900bae_taba.jpg


Also in the works: STA-paint. Engines and wings still need to be done. I know for certain that wings are a b*tch to paint with camo pattern, because of their layout. So it might end up with plain green wings.

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/310bae_sta1.jpg

[An-225]

Also in the works: STA-paint. Engines and wings still need to be done. I know for certain that wings are a b*tch to paint with camo pattern, because of their layout. So it might end up with plain green wings.

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/310bae_sta1.jpg

That looks fantastic! Move over S-2, I've just found a new COD aircraft.

[bushpilot]

Yes, I think camo suits this bird very well. I think I'll reduce the shading/shininess for the final version and add some slight fading and weathering. And when/if JF releases the Freighter or STA model, I'll update this paint accordingly.

[flaviossa]

A-M-A-Z-I-N-G!!!! :icon_eek: Excelent job. I´ll try it ASAP
Thanks a lot my friend :salute::salute:

[Barnes]

Great work bushpilot

[Barnes]

Another on the way

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-635.jpg

[flaviossa]

Nice one Barnes! :salute:

[bushpilot]

Thanks Flavio!

STA paint is now uploaded (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/2943-just-flight-bae-146-g-bsta-sta-demonstrator/). Had to do all kinds of trickery to get this done, but I think it turned up quite nice. Wings are plain green, maybe by the time we get the QT model, there will be proper wing templates, and I will reconsider doing camo-wings.:mixedsmi:


Added extra dirt and weathering, removed shiny parts and excessive shading and modified some details.

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/181bae_sta1.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/432bae_sta2.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/341bae_sta3.jpg

[Barnes]

Excellent Bushpilot

Please download this one from here..https://www.cx.com/mycx/share/wdPW4N8NEeG9DRICOA-R7w/CLS%20BAe%20146%20200%20repaint%20Air%20Can%20JAZZ .zip


http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-635.jpg

[Barnes]

Doin this one now.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-889.jpg

[bushpilot]

Thanks, the same to you Barnes!


Okay some issues I've noticed with this now that I've made some nice flights:

Throttle seems very sensitive, especially on approach it's tricky to manage.

I don't get flap sounds, gear down/up sounds, ground roll or touchdown sounds. Didn't notice this before as I was using Accu-Feel, but after disabling it, those sounds are not there.

Edit: And GPWS makes multiple altitude call-outs in a row, e.g. 'ten-ten-ten-ten-ten-ten-ten'

[flaviossa]

Hello,
I confirm the gpws problem here too. But i don´t have the throttle issue. Maybe something related to the flight stick in use? I use a saitek fly5 and the throttle is ok. About the sounds i´ll disable accufeel here to see what happens. I confess that didn´t pay attention until i saw your post. :salute:

[Montie]

I am so tempted to buy this, was holding out for the QW one... But this one is a bit cheaper too.

[dvj]

Hello,
I confirm the gpws problem here too. But i don´t have the throttle issue. Maybe something related to the flight stick in use? I use a saitek fly5 and the throttle is ok. About the sounds i´ll disable accufeel here to see what happens. I confess that didn´t pay attention until i saw your post. :salute:

In additoin, forward windows don't have reflections as seen in the posted screen shots.

[Ark]

Anybody up for a PSA livery?

Thanks!

[Martyn]

Great repaints! Loving the STA version :salute:


I don't get flap sounds, gear down/up sounds, ground roll or touchdown sounds. Didn't notice this before as I was using Accu-Feel, but after disabling it, those sounds are not there.

The sound-set was developed based on what could be heard from the cockpit of the real aircraft, neither flap nor touchdown sounds are very audible in the real thing.

[ColinT46]

Martyn,

Slightly off-topic but will we see P3D installers for other new Justflight products in the near future and what about those already released?

Colin.

[bushpilot]

But i don´t have the throttle issue. Maybe something related to the flight stick in use?

Yes, could be my hardware.


And thanks Martyn for clarifying that sound issue. Quiet it is then:salute:

[Barnes]

Am i right in thinking its known as the whisper jet?
Please download this repaint from here https://www.cx.com/mycx/share/dr14st_HEeG9DRICOA-R7w/CLS%20BAe%20146%20200%20repaint%20Virgin.zip

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-889.jpg

[Martyn]

Martyn,

Slightly off-topic but will we see P3D installers for other new Justflight products in the near future and what about those already released?

Colin.

Yes. They are planned where they are possible for new products. The same applies for selected products of those already released, but will naturally take a period of time.

[ColinT46]

Martyn

Thanks for that.

Colin.:salute:

[bushpilot]

Anybody up for a PSA livery?

Thanks!


Hey, I'll do the PSA, but first I'll do this fancy air tanker-paint:

http://raven.urljet.com/%7Erotwnews/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/TANKER-146-Minden.png

[Barnes]

Please download this repaint from here ..https://www.cx.com/mycx/share/o57MXN_qEeGeahICOASQIQ/CLS%20BAe%20146%20200%20repaint%20korongo.zip

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-1614.jpg

[Dave Torkington]

First impressions - to coin a local phrase - I'm Gobsmacked!

Nice to find out I had a few hundred Just Flight credits [from previous purchases] so that knocked a few quid off...

Easy purchase, download and installation - thank you for the dual installer so I pointed it at P3D :applause:

Very tidy VC with lots of attention to detail, superb texturing and love the window views.

Externally, well it's already been said... Lovely job and a fair price considering the -300's coming too.

I thoroughly enjoyed the Jon Murchinson model in FS9 many years ago, endured much 'teasing' from the Iris 'teaser' 146 and now I've got a real good feeling about this bird - well done to the team that produced this aircraft!

Regards, Dave.

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[Ark]

Hey, I'll do the PSA, but first I'll do this fancy air tanker-paint:

http://raven.urljet.com/%7Erotwnews/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/TANKER-146-Minden.png


Thanks, Bush!

That tanker repaint ain't too shabby either!!

[CODY]

Barnes...

I envy you...I was able to paint quite a bit! But then life and work moved in. I don't know how you find the time, knowing what it takes to knock some of these out?
Thank you...for your time...and paint's!
Now I must go and buy this plane!


CODY

[Barnes]

Barnes...

I envy you...I was able to paint quite a bit! But then life and work moved in. I don't know how you find the time, knowing what it takes to knock some of these out?
Thank you...for your time...and paint's!
Now I must go and buy this plane!


CODY

Yes Cody - we miss your excellent contributions. I have to say that on this model i can turn one around in an hour if i can find enough ref material and within the limitations of Elements.

Thanks

[ShawnG]

great work so far on the repaints guys. If any of you might entertain some humble requests, I would love an Air Botswana Bae-146 and something NZ-ish either Air New Zealand or Mt. Cook or Vincent Aviation or Ansett NZ. thanks for any consideration!

[Barnes]

Hi Please download this repaint from here.......

https://www.cx.com/mycx/share/4PWqYOCkEeG47RICPRQ27A/CLS%20BAe%20146%20200%20repaint%20BEA%20Caribair.z ip

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-2053.jpg

[flaviossa]

Beautiful paint Barnes. Never knew about this company. Will search about it. :ernae:

[bushpilot]

I'm using this as a bush plane, it's very fun to squeeze into short gravel strips. Can't wait to get the QT-model to do some backcountry cargohauls in Alaska. Which reminds me to do some Alaskan paints too...

Here's very interesting visual approach to Bronson Creek airstrip, along the creek:

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/428bc1.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/531bc2.jpg

[delta_lima]

What good news!

I flew in these a number of times during the late 90s (can't recall if it was Air BC or Jazz) on some Vancouver-Comox and Vancouver Terrace flights. I loved them, enjoyed being able to see out the windows well (no wing in the way), and I recall them being quiet and very smooth. I loved the character - 4 engines, high wing not the generic two-engine low wing vanilla mantra of current jetliners. Miss seeing them a lot - here's a chance to fly them!

Thanks so much for doing a Jazz - nice to see that one early on. Love the Aer Lingus - very pretty! There are some nice BA schemes too ...

http://members.tripod.com/Craigs_Airlines/-BA-g_gntz-bae146200-peter.jpg



BA Landor looked nice too, actually!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rehvonwald/368594465/

Anyway - great work on the repaints. Will get this early next week.

DL

[bushpilot]

Started the PSA, will probably finish this tomorrow if my real life work schedule allows. After this there's another requested paint, Air New Zealand Link. And the tanker of course. Then I think I've had enough cutting and pasting for a while:icon_lol:

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/691baepsa.jpg

[Barnes]

Thats looking great Bushpilot

[Barnes]

Thanks to the excellent support from Martyn - im pleased to be able to make this repaint available. Please download from
here https://www.cx.com/mycx/share/0IutvOF6EeG47RICPRQ27A/CLS%20BAe%20146%20200%20repaint%20FLYBE.zip

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-1518.jpg

[bushpilot]

Very nice Barnes, and nice to see great support!

PSA uploaded (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/2949-just-flight-bae-146-n348ps/), Air NZ on the finals, arriving soon.

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/558bae_psa1.jpg

[bushpilot]

Aaaaand Air New Zealand Link is out (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/2950-just-flight-bae-146-zk-nez/). This was requested... twice!

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/934bae_anz1.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/124bae_anz2.jpg

[flaviossa]

Wow :icon_eek:
This plane just keeps getting better and better! Impressive work Bushpilot and Barnes! Thanks for that!

[ShawnG]

thanks for the paints!! as one of the NZ requesters, it looks fantastic, and Barnes the flybe paint looks fantastic as well. any chance of an Air Botswana for the Johannesburg-Maun run? thanks again for all the great repaints!

[Barnes]

thanks for the paints!! as one of the NZ requesters, it looks fantastic, and Barnes the flybe paint looks fantastic as well. any chance of an Air Botswana for the Johannesburg-Maun run? thanks again for all the great repaints!

Hi Swawn

Im happy to do that repaint but which version of the paint scheme would you prefer as i see some photos show a line allong the fusealarge and on some its just plain?

[Barnes]

Hi Shawn - please download this repaint from here
https://www.cx.com/mycx/share/xYyrCuHrEeGZKBICOASQIQ/CLS%20BAe%20146%20200%20repaint%20%20Air%20Botswan a.zip

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-406.jpg

[bushpilot]

As promised, an Air Tanker (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/2951-just-flight-bae-146-n146ff-air-tanker/) paint. Despite my earlier plans, didn't do the concept version, but a real life water bomber operated by Neptune Aviation. I painted a dummy drop hatch at the bottom and added fire retardant staining.

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/163bae_tanker1.jpg

[delta_lima]

Fantastic work, Bush and Barnes - simply excellent.

DL

[Dain Arns]

As promised, an Air Tanker (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/2951-just-flight-bae-146-n146ff-air-tanker/) paint. Despite my earlier plans, didn't do the concept version, but a real life water bomber operated by Neptune Aviation. I painted a dummy drop hatch at the bottom and added fire retardant staining.

Well, now I have to buy the 146-200, all because of you. LOL :icon_lol:
One of Neptune's birds with the Montana state flag on it, based out of Missoula, (KMSO).
http://www.neptuneaviation.com/index2.php#/home/
Yup. Have to get it now.

(I've been thinking about it for the past week anyway, this definitely helped sway me, looks beautiful, thanks!.) ;)

[bushpilot]

<label for="rb_iconid_4">http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/images/icons/icon4.png</label>Hey I just uploaded fixed version of the tanker, just a minor tweak on the right side hatch. Can be downloaded from original link.


Well, now I have to buy the 146-200, all because of you. LOL :icon_lol:


I feel so bad for you lol:mixedsmi:

I think one could easily add water bombing effects to the model, if the coordinates of the hatch were known. There are some nice free water drop effects around teh interwebs, I remember once adding them to Piglet's Dromader.

[Barnes]

Excellent work Bushpilot

[ShawnG]

Hi Shawn - please download this repaint from here
https://www.cx.com/mycx/share/xYyrCuHrEeGZKBICOASQIQ/CLS%20BAe%20146%20200%20repaint%20%20Air%20Botswan a.zip

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-406.jpg


excellent work, sir. I'm not picky about which paint, this will do just fine. got interested after seeing some clips from the bush pilots series that is broadcast in the UK. this plane services their main bush hub at Maun, and it matches with the aeroworx south african sceneries that I recently installed. Thanks again!

[bushpilot]

Thanks Barnes!

Here's how to convert BAe to a fire fighter:

Search avsim for bell205a1.zip

Copy effects from it to FSX effects folder and add this to aircraft.cfg:

[smokesystem]
smoke.0 = -57.00, 0.000, -4.000, fx_N_wtrdrp

It even has very nice little rainbow:icon_lol:
http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/627firew.jpg

[Barnes]

Cleaver :applause:

[Barnes]

I think this will be my last repaint for now. please download from here.

https://www.cx.com/mycx/share/Q__44uRUEeGZKBICOASQIQ/CLS%20BAe%20146%20200%20repaint%20North%20Cariboo. zip

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-2333.jpg

[Ark]

Very nice Barnes, and nice to see great support!

PSA uploaded (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/2949-just-flight-bae-146-n348ps/), Air NZ on the finals, arriving soon.

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/558bae_psa1.jpg


Excellent!!!

Thank you!!!!!!!

[Barnes]

i have done one side of this one!

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-2490.jpg

[CODY]

i have done one side of this one!

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-2490.jpg

HEHEHE....You said you thought you were done for now...So now you've cut back to only doing half a paint so you don't go into withdrawal?:jump:

Addictive ain't it!

You just keep painting...hopefully this week I can afford to get both packs!

Cody

[CG_1976]

Ah a Canadian Cariboo paint, a must have. Congrats to the painter as I must now purchase the Bea.

[Barnes]

Please download from here ..
https://www.cx.com/mycx/share/kQV4geYSEeGVDRICOA-R7w/CLS%20BAe%20146%20200%20repaint%20TITAN.zip

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-653.jpg

[Martyn]

We are currently working on the service pack for this product.

If you have encountered any issues that you have not yet reported directly to the support team using the support request form, please report them now so that we can address them in the service pack: http://www.justflight.com/support-contact

[bushpilot]

Nice. Haven't encountered any game breaking bugs, but I just reported two smaller ones. Hopefully they can be squished in service pack.

[HighGround22]

I'm using this as a bush plane, it's very fun to squeeze into short gravel strips. Can't wait to get the QT-model to do some backcountry cargohauls in Alaska. Which reminds me to do some Alaskan paints too...

Here's very interesting visual approach to Bronson Creek airstrip, along the creek:



http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/531bc2.jpg

TO: BUSHPILOT
Hey there, Bushie:

Please tell us/me a bit about the QT model !! Do I correctly presume that it's a cargo variant? Since I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Trash Hauler, I'd love to see such a creation.

When I saw the shot of you taking this bird into Bronson Creek, I almost overflowed my drool catcher! I fly into that area often, but never considered flying a 146 into such places. But it's entirely logical however, and I think you just sold me on the 146 -- especially if you're gonna do some Alaskan paints.

And btw: Are you affiliated with the Return to Misty Moorings (RTMM) group? They just very recently upgraded the scenery for Bronson Creek.

[bushpilot]

Hi Jon, yes I'm waiting for JF to release the cargo variant (Quiet Trader aka QT), it's not included in base package, but was promised as a future update. After it's released, I'll do some freighter paints for Alaska. I'm not associated with Misty Moorings, although I know and like their work. I'm gonna check out the Misty Moorings Bronson Creek.

My BAe trip to Bronson Creek was inspired by this video:

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/a4a11U97fkI?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>

[CG_1976]

Air North out of Whitehorse would be a good and excellent canidate for a fictional paint representing the Canadian Arctic or the famous Canuk North out of Yellowknife.

[HighGround22]

.
Thanks for the good info, Bushie; I learned a lot from all that! I'd had no idea that a) Bronson was such a major enterprise; b) that they routinely put large, heavy 4-engined cabs into the place; and c) that the 146 would be such a natural for such places.

Just to be clear about the Bronson Creek scenery: we die-hard bush pounders at RTMM use Orbx's Pacific Fjords and FSAddons Tongass Fjords X as the basis for our operations (they butt-up against each other to form one contiguous area). So the super-talented lads at RTMM then adds extra scenery and eye candy to those two base sceneries. Bronson, being one of them, lies inside Tongass Fjords, so you'd first have to have that scenery before adding RTMM's extra enhancements.

Probably my all-time favourite RTMM-based activity is to fly a run they call Dispatch #012, "Stikine River Mail Drop": Y'fly out of Wrangell (PAWG) and head north to enter the river valley, then north past the beautiful glaciers (compliments of the Tongass scenery). The run entails stopping at several bush strips along the valley as it arches north, then east, south and back west (forming a loose square) to join onto the river valley again for the return to PAWG. Takes around 2.5 hrs.

The scenery is just downright ruggedly beautiful and the bush strips are fun to get into, but the last two are the highlight of the run, for me: Bob Quinn Lake and Bronson Creek. I like the first for its rugged charm, and Bronson mainly because of the tricky approach. The runway's huge, compared with the others (now I know why!), but it's a hoot getting the approach right. Especially if you should pick scabby weather for the flight!

I read-up on the QT and I've put it at the top of my "BUY!" list, for when it's released. Meanwhile I must now get me the base model! See whatcha gone and done!?!

Thanks again, Bushie!

[bushpilot]

Just to be clear about the Bronson Creek scenery: we die-hard bush pounders at RTMM use Orbx's Pacific Fjords and FSAddons Tongass Fjords X as the basis for our operations (they butt-up against each other to form one contiguous area). So the super-talented lads at RTMM then adds extra scenery and eye candy to those two base sceneries. Bronson, being one of them, lies inside Tongass Fjords, so you'd first have to have that scenery before adding RTMM's extra enhancements.


Yep, Tongass X is what shows in my pics. Never got around to get the PFJ package, because I think it is (too) similar to Tongass X and I still have some areas left to be explored in Tongass area. I think my favorite strip is the Cirque airstrip beside the mountain and glacier. Nice short hop from Scud River.

[FrakerHawk]

Wow looks good.:salute:

[gman5250]

IMHO
The paint kit is very well done. I often create a master blank with full length fuse, then cut and paste to callibration marks. It can be tedious, but when you use the reg marks you always line up graphics perfectly. I do agree that a wing template would be a fine addition though.
I've done a couple of "what" if variants that I have posted here.
72560

The virtual cocpit was well to my liking. I have other similarly priced aircraft...specifically a Dash 8 that truly had a disappointing VC. I have a 40" monitor and I still cant read the gauges in that particular aircraft.

The small glitches i.e GPWS multiple callouts, I assume will be addressed in upcoming service packs...I will look forward to that.

All in all I find this aircraft to be well worth the investment, and I look forward to the free upgrade on the upcoming release.

IMHO.....


72528


Would like to see the paint kit for it

is it available for download or is it a part of the package ?

[jeansy]

thanks Gman

I have no need for the paint kit now, I ended up getting a refund and went with the other brand name 146

[bushpilot]

Speaking of paintkit, one new scheme uploaded, Ansett retro livery. (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/3130-just-flight-bae-146-vh-czk-ansett-retro/)

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj640/bushpilot_fi/897b955f.jpg

[Martyn]

The 146-200/300 service pack is now available. You can obtain it by downloading the updated version of the product from your Just Flight account. More details are available here: http://www.justflight.com/supportfaq/146-200#Update1

The 146-200 has now become 146-200/300 due to the addition of the 146-300 model and liveries included in the service pack.

This service pack includes the following content:


BONUS! 146-300 model with five liveries included



New - Panel selector icons added to virtual cockpit
New - FMC icon added to panel selector
New - NAV 2 radio icon added to panel selector
Auto-start functionality improved (clicking Auto start icon now sets up aircraft fully for takeoff)
New - Auto-shutdown functionality added (clicking on Auto start icon for a second time will configure aircraft in cold & dark state)
New - Ambient cockpit sound added
Slow/Fast scale on AI operating in reverse - fixed
Jetway alignment for passenger door not correct - fixed
FDE improved (aileron and rudder response etc)
No avionics power until engines are started - fixed
Clickspots for ALT SEL on 2D panel open VHF NAV radio popup - fixed
Green elevator trim band missing from virtual cockpit - fixed
Avionics section of overhead panel in 2D and virtual cockpit don't match - fixed
APU cannot be heard after start sound finishes - fixed
Altimeter resets to 2992/1013.2 rather than the correct pressure setting - fixed
Engine oil temperatures are too low (not in the green) at all operating conditions - fixed
GPWS multiple callouts (e.g ten-ten-ten) - fixed
Hydraulic systems are operating at 3400 psi, should be 3000 psi - fixed
AC sources (APU, engine generators and ext AC) are operating at 125 VAC, should be 115 VAC - fixed
DC TRUs are operating at 32 VDC, should be 28 VDC - fixed
V speed callouts operating midair - fixed



For 146 Livery & FMC pack users (in addition to the above)

BONUS! Four new 146-300 liveries included



FMC issue on non-English language PCs (FMC flightplan page showing 'iiii') fixed