quick tip needed for carrier landings

[wingman777]

After several months I've gone from quick combat to the campaigns and as simple as it might seem I've forgotten the command to lower the tailhook so I can land on the carrier. Can't find the manual either....lil' help? Thanks in advance.

[Good_2_Be]

Shift H should do it Oh yeah don't worry about the LSO he might have a grudge against ya

[Tango_Romeo]

...correct, unless you are using the original FS/CFS keyboard layout. If you are an old head using the original, the command is SHIFT+G. :wavey:

[OBIO]

wingman

I have found that the tail hook is not needed for the kind of carrier landings I usually do....which end up with my plane either sticking out the tail end of the ship or in a crumpled pile in the middle of the deck.

OBIO

[Collin]

wingman...Obio and several other SOH members work for ship-breakers who believe in "quickening" trade.:costumes:

regards Collin:ernae:

[Good_2_Be]

Obio just remember if the ship don't sink its a good landing, and quit paying attention to that LSO............I think he would prefer you to do a fly over and try to parachute onto the deck :costumes:

[wingman777]

My son is 6 and has impressive skills on the game already. My only problem now is fighting him over the joystick, I can hardly get any playing time. :kilroy:

[Collin]

Obio just remember if the ship don't sink its a good landing, and quit paying attention to that LSO............I think he would prefer you to do a fly over and try to parachute onto the deck :costumes:

Yer mean summat like this?:costumes::friday:

regards Collin:ernae:

[Shadow Wolf 07]

My son is 6 and has impressive skills on the game already. My only problem now is fighting him over the joystick, I can hardly get any playing time. :kilroy:

Remember, you can set the tailhook to whatever you want in Settings/Controller Assignments and scrolling down to the tailhook settings line. Before you know it, that 6-year old will be doing night ops and putting the big birds on deck!

[Pips]

If you fly the old Stringbag you don't need a tailhook. In a decent wind you can just about hover over the deck. :)

[hewman100]

Want some real fun though try putting down a Barracuda from the cockpit:isadizzy:.

[OBIO]

Or wait until you get some of the CFS2 jets installed and try to do a trap with one of those fast fliers. I have tried to jet trap a few hundred times....and have not had a successful trap yet....No, wait...I did one or 2 with the T-2 Buckeye I converted to CFS2..but that is it.

OBIO

[DauntlessDriver546]

I find that going by the aircraft's ORIGINAL manual is pretty good... 120 kts by CFS-2s standard... it's way too hot... bring her in at about 90 kts... this works for generally any Navy stock bird in the game.

[Tango_Romeo]

...landings are much less difficult than most people believe, if you keep one thing in mind: TTFA (Trim the F***ing Aircraft)! :173go1:

Once you get this down, you will find that landing on even the smallest escort carrier is a cinch. Most crashes on landing and waveoffs happen because the 'pilot' is fighting the controls. With the aircraft trimmed properly, the controls require only a feather-light touch and respond instantly. You have to 'dirty-up'(canopy open, gear, hook and flaps down) the aircraft in the pattern and trim her in that configuration BEFORE you turn final. :ernae:

Taking carrier landing lessons from OBIO is like taking driving lessons from my wife. OBIO only recently learned that there is such a thing as trim control on airplanes, and he still refuses to use them. Did I say he is stubborn? How stubborn is he? His idea of trim control is rewritiing the AIR file. His favorite saying is: This is not Burger King! I fly my way or no way at all! :costumes::costumes::costumes: OMG! He sounds like.....ME! :redf:

[Tango_Romeo]

Not being able to land on a carrier should not be a big concern.

Many CFS2 pilots have extremely short attention spans, and haven't got the patience to land a plane on an airfield much less a carrier. They just hit X to End Mission, so they can get on to the next one. They would also prefer that the missions start in flight at the site of the first combat, so they don't have to fly to that point or bother warping.

This could lead to a major increase in framerates, since bases could be eliminated altogether and we could also eliminate animated landing gear and flaps to simplify things further. Think of the savings in disk space! We could call this new breakthrough something snappy like.......QUICK COMBAT.

OR we could issue Ridlin tablets with the CFS2 CDs. :friday:

Now how do I go about removing my tongue from my cheek? :wavey:

[Shadow Wolf 07]

Not being able to land on a carrier should not be a big concern.

Many CFS2 pilots have extremely short attention spans, and haven't got the patience to land a plane on an airfield much less a carrier. They just hit X to End Mission, so they can get on to the next one. They would also prefer that the missions start in flight at the site of the first combat, so they don't have to fly to that point or bother warping.

This could lead to a major increase in framerates, since bases could be eliminated altogether and we could also eliminate animated landing gear and flaps to simplify things further. Think of the savings in disk space! We could call this new breakthrough something snappy like.......QUICK COMBAT.

OR we could issue Ridlin tablets with the CFS2 CDs. :friday:

Now how do I go about removing my tongue from my cheek? :wavey:

I always land on the carrier at end of mission but rarely land on airstrips. Why? In the campaigns, I have lost too many decent wingmen because the blind fools crash for no reason. F6F, the other manager of the site at http://groups.msn.com/WW2CombatFlightSimulatorSite has a whole series of modified US stock campaigns... some with P-38s, Corsairs or Hellcats only; some for the same planes but with all missions at night; and others with in-the-air starts and endings for the carrier/runway timid.

The nighttime with Hellcat are my favorite :applause:

[Tango_Romeo]

I always land on the carrier at end of mission but rarely land on airstrips. Why? In the campaigns, I have lost too many decent wingmen because the blind fools crash for no reason.


When wingmen crash on landing, it's for very real reasons. Usually it's because they stallout. They cannot fly as slow as the player because they have no flaps.

You can avoid losing wingmen in three ways:

- As soon as you get on final approach give the SPLIT command and instead of landing fly directly over the strip and do a circuit before landing. Your wingmen will land normally.

- Do not give the SPLIT command on final, but go in 'hot' about 20-30kts above normal stall speed without flaps. Your wingmen will land normally.

- Give the SPLIT command as soon as you are on final. Then accelerate away from your flight and land normally before they can catchup. Your wingmen will land normally.

:ernae:

[Shadow Wolf 07]

I'll try those combinations... thanx! :friday:

[OBIO]

Taking carrier landing lessons from OBIO is like taking driving lessons from my wife. OBIO only recently learned that there is such a thing as trim control on airplanes, and he still refuses to use them. Did I say he is stubborn? How stubborn is he? His idea of trim control is rewritiing the AIR file. His favorite saying is: This is not Burger King! I fly my way or no way at all! :costumes::costumes::costumes: OMG! He sounds like.....ME! :redf:


I resemble those remarks! Actually, I have been doing better with trimming...I trimmed the Thanksgiving turkey, I trimmed the Christmas tree, and I trimmed my nose hair and toe nails. And I have been practicing trimming out a plane....just having problems figuring out where to hang the ornaments LOL.

OBIO

[The B24 Guy]

When wingmen crash on landing, it's for very real reasons. Usually it's because they stallout. They cannot fly as slow as the player because they have no flaps.


AI do use flaps.
It depends on the Var. that is used in the Model to activate the flap animation. The Stock B24 and I think the Hellcat flaps will deploy when under AI control.

Regards,
B24Guy

[bearcat241]

I've seen this in certain models too B24...and even when AI don't use visible modeled flaps, they all still respond to any changes made to flap settings in the air file. Too much pitch or lift and they'll put on quite a comedy in landing cycles...all kinds of weird effects.

[Tango_Romeo]

Actually, I have been doing better with trimming...I trimmed the Thanksgiving turkey, I trimmed the Christmas tree, and I trimmed my nose hair and toe nails. And I have been practicing trimming out a plane....just having problems figuring out where to hang the ornaments. OBIO

...is progress! I take it all back! He's trying! :ernae: :costumes:

[Tango_Romeo]

...as you wish, but if you drop your flaps and slow to just above stall speed on landing, watch what happens to your wingmen.

There may be a couple of aircraft that are exceptions, but I've never seen one. :friday:

[Tango_Romeo]

...the Hellcat and B-24 as AI wingmen. You are correct that these two aircraft (unlike the most) will deploy flaps visually. However, the Hellcat wingmen land at the same speed with or without flaps deployed. Therefore the flaps must be only visual, and are not affecting flight characteristics. :banghead:

When I tried the B-24, the wingmen did deploy flaps, but pulled them in along with the gear on final and declined the opportunity to land??????? I have no idea what's happening with that. :isadizzy:

Wheels within wheels within wheels........:friday:

[Devildog73]

Scott Johnson did a mod to allow belly landings.

I have found when all else fails, install his mod and land wheels and flaps up and you don't blow up!:friday: