Proper DP gun strength number

[_486_Col_Wolf]

The DP's for some of my downloads seem to vary from plane to plane with the same guns. Some 7.62's in the German planes are different, the .303 cal in the Spits and Hurricanes also. I know the US .50 Cal is 14 and the US 20mm cannon (P-38) is 39. Can anyone tell me the correct numbers for the following guns:

German 7.62mm (Bf-109)
German 20mm (Bf-109)
German 30mm (FW-190)
German 40mm (FW-190)
British .303 Cal
British 20mm Hispano (Spit)

[Captain Kurt]

I think most use DPED when designing their dp files, so these numbers are most used-

; This is weapons' template data file for DPED.
[ARMS]
Bomb,4,-99,4,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1d1*6000,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,26 66.66666666667,Default bomb
M9 37mm Cannon Ground Attack,1,-99,2,0.43,792,2,0.05,500,5,40,1d1*70,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,21.45,
MP-23 23mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.24,900,2,0.03,500,3,40,1d1*38,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,7.05,
MP-20 20mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.08,806,2,0.05,500,4,40,1d1*31,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,0,
Darne 7.5mm,0,-99,1,0.04,790,2,0.02,500,1,40,1d1*7,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0.32,France
Ma0 MG 81 (zwilling or twin) 7.92mm,0,-99,1,0.06,1770,2,0.01,500,1,40,1d1*15,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0,0.916,Germany
Oerlikon FFL 20mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.12,750,2,0.05,500,3,40,1d1*32,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,5.08,Germany
Oerlikon F 20mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.12,550,2,0.05,500,3,40,1d1*30,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,5.08,Germany
Rheinmetall-Borsig MK 103 30mm,1,-99,2,0.14,860,2,0.05,500,5,40,1d1*33,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,16.96,Germany
MK 101 30mm Cannon Ground Attack,1,-99,2,0.24,860,2,0.05,500,4,40,1d1*48,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,11.64,Germany
MG FF/M,1,-99,2,0.12,690,2,0.06,500,3,40,1d1*30,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,3.25,Germany
Oerlikon FFS 20mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.13,830,2,0.05,500,3,40,1d1*29,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,4.3,Germany
Ma0 MG c/30L 20mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.17,900,2,0.02,500,3,40,1d1*70,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,4.2,Germany
Ma0 MG 81 7.92mm,0,-99,1,0.03,885,2,0.02,500,1,40,1d1*10,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,0.453,Germany
Ma0 MG 213/20 20mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.04,1065,2,0.01,500,4,40,1d1*35,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0,7.4,Germany
Ma0 151/20 20mm Cannon : Incendiary or High Explosive,1,-99,2,0.11,534,2,0.05,300,5,40,1d1*89,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,3.5,Germany
BK 5 50mm Cannon Ground Attack,1,-99,2,1.2,917,2,0.01,300,6,40,1d1*110,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,54.32,Germany
B-20,1,-99,2,0.08,800,2,0.02,500,3,40,1d1*22,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,3.39,Germany
Ma0 MG FF 20mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.12,570,2,0.06,500,3,40,1d1*58,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,4.06,Germany
Rheinmetall-Borsig Mk 108 30mm : Incendiary or High Explosive,1,-99,2,0.11,762,2,0.05,500,5,40,1d1*32,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,11,Germany
Oerlikon MG FF 20mm Cannon : Incendiary or High Explosive,1,-99,2,0.11,549,2,0.05,500,4,40,1d1*28,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,4.82,Germany
Oerlikon S 20mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.21,830,2,0.05,500,3,40,1d1*28,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,4.3,Germany
Rheinmetall-Borsig MG 131 13 mm Armor piercing : incendiary : Tracer,1,-99,2,0.07,839,2,0.01,500,1,40,1d1*12,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,1.5,Germany
BK-5,1,-99,2,0.428,860,2,0.02,500,5,40,1d1*78,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0,56,Germany
BK-7 37mm Flak,1,-99,2,0.375,1170,2,0.01,500,6,40,1d1*41,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,0,14.3,Germany
Rheinmetall-Borsig MG 15 7.92 mm,0,-99,1,0.07,733,2,0.01,500,1,40,1d1*9,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0.452,Germany
Rheinmetall-Borsig MG 17 7.92 mm : Armor piercing : incendiary : Tracer,0,-99,1,0.06,747,2,0.01,500,1,40,1d1*10,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,0.453,Germany
BK-3 37mm Flak,1,-99,2,0.375,1170,2,0.01,600,6,40,1d1*41,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,0,14.3,Germany
Oerlikon L 20mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.17,685,2,0.05,500,3,40,1d1*31,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,5.08,Germany
Wgr 21 21 cm/8-in. air to air rocket : Rocket-High Explosive,3,-99,3,0,320,0,0,300,0,0,1d1*3000,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,1080,Germany
Ma0 MG 151 15mm Cannon Anti-Tank,1,-99,2,0.09,1040,2,0.01,500,3,40,1d1*55,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0,6.7,Germany Japan
Breda-Safat 12.7mm,0,-99,1,0.09,760,2,0.05,850,2,40,1d1*12,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,1.29,Italy
Breda-Safat 7.7mm,0,-99,1,0.08,712,2,0.05,500,1,40,1d1*8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0.36,Italy
HO Type 98 37mm Cannon,1,-99,2,4,610,2,0.03,1000,5,40,1d1*90,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,16.79,Japan
HO 103 (Type 3) 13.2mm,0,-99,1,0.08,790,2,0.02,900,1,40,1d1*15,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,4.2,Japan
HO 103 (Type 2) 13mm,0,-99,1,0.07,750,2,0.02,750,1,40,1d1*13,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,1.2,Japan
HO 103 (Type 1) 12.7mm,0,-99,1,0.07,780,2,0.05,750,1,40,1d1*12,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,1.34,Japan
HE Type 98 (trainable) 7.92mm,0,-99,1,0.04,810,2,0.02,600,1,40,1d1*8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0,Japan
HE Type 97 7.7mm,0,-99,1,0.1,750,2,0.02,800,1,40,1d1*7,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,Japan
HE Type 92 7.7mm,0,-99,1,0.1,762,2,0.05,500,1,40,1d1*7,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,Japan
HE Type 89 model Two 7.7mm,0,-99,1,0.07,811,2,0.05,600,1,40,1d1*8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0,Japan
HE Type 1 (trainable) 12.7mm,0,-99,1,0.05,790,2,0.05,750,1,40,1d1*13,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,0,Japan
HO-105 30mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.13,450,2,0.05,500,4,40,1d1*32,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,0,Japan
HE Type 89 7.7mm,0,-99,1,0.08,747,2,0.02,600,1,40,1d1*7,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0,Japan
Type 88 75mm Cannon,1,-99,2,6.67,720,2,0.07,300,6,40,1d1*200,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0,232.8,Japan
HO-203 37mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.38,575,2,0.04,900,4,40,1d1*50,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,16.79,Japan
HO-3 (type 97) 20mm Cannon : Japanese Army,1,-99,2,0.15,810,2,0.03,900,4,40,1d1*31,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,5.78,Japan
HO-301 40mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.13,230,2,0.1,150,5,40,1d1*60,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0,Japan
HO-401 57mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.67,518,2,0.04,500,6,40,1d1*110,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0,0,Japan
HO-5 (type 1) 20mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.07,750,2,0.05,900,4,40,1d1*30,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,5.08,Japan
HO Type 99 (model 2) 20mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.12,750,2,0.02,500,3,40,1d1*26,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,5.01,Japan
HO Type 99 (model 1) 20mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.12,600,2,0.03,1000,4,40,1d1*25,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0,5.01,Japan
Nudelman-Suranov NS-37 37mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.24,900,2,0.06,400,4,40,1d1*68,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,25.93,Soviet Union
Nudelman-Suranov NS-23 23mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.24,690,2,0.03,500,3,40,1d1*31,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,7.05,Soviet Union
ShKas DA 7.62mm,0,-99,1,0.08,825,2,0.01,600,1,40,1d1*8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0.34,Soviet Union
ShKas PV-1 7.62mm,0,-99,1,0.08,825,2,0.02,600,1,40,1d1*8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0.34,Soviet Union
ShKas UB 12.7mm,0,-99,1,0.06,860,2,0.02,600,1,40,1d1*13,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,1.8,Soviet Union
UBK 12.7mm,0,-99,1,0.06,850,2,0.01,500,2,40,1d1*15,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,1.69,Soviet Union
Vya-23 23mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.1,900,2,0.05,500,3,40,1d1*32,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,7.05,Soviet Union
ShVAK 20mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.08,860,2,0.05,500,4,40,1d1*30,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,3.39,Soviet Union
Hispano Mk II 20mm Cannon : Armor piercing : incendiary : Tracer and API,1,-99,2,0.11,839,2,0.05,500,6,40,1d1*24,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,4.4,UK France USA
Hispano Mk V 20mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.08,840,2,0.05,500,3,40,1d1*26,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,4.88,UK USA
Hispano M1 20mm Cannon,1,-99,2,0.08,840,2,0.05,800,3,40,1d1*31,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,4.88,USA
Browning Mk 2 .303-in/7.7 mm : Armor piercing : incendiary : Tracer,0,-99,1,0.05,811,2,0.02,500,0,40,1d1*8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0.344,USA
Browning M2 .50 in./ 12.7 mm : Armor piercing : incendiary : Tracer and API,0,-99,1,0.08,839,2,0.01,500,2,40,1d1*14,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,1.6,USA
Browning .30 M2/7.7mm,0,-99,1,0.05,835,2,0.02,500,1,40,1d1*9,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0.35,USA
Browning AN-M3,1,-99,2,0.05,866,2,0.05,500,6,40,1d1*24,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,4.11,USA
Oldsmobile (T9) M4 37mm Cannon Ground Attack,1,-99,2,0.43,610,2,0.05,600,5,40,1d1*,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,
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[_486_Col_Wolf]

Thanks Kurt, gonna put this to good use!

[misson]

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?53822-i-still....

[demorier]

Quite a long time ago I converted most of my numbers to the 1% numbers that were put together. I think there will be an eternal differences with the numbers.

As damage dice numbers were adjusted to deal with standard objects, ships, buildings etc., new structures were custom built with very different damage boxes numbers.

There's always going to be some differences.

[tonybones2112]

Having fired many of the rounds used in the sim, I go pretty much with 1%, and example being 18.4 for the .50 M2 Browning, 20 for the German and Jap 13.2. The Jap 7.7 and British .303 are two variations of the same round, and set them for 10, the .30 US Browning is the beast among .30 calibers, I set it for 12.9, the German 7.92 is just under in performance and set it at 12. One thing you have to consider in all Jap cannon rounds from start to finish of the war in all calibers are that they were fused to explode on contact, Allied and German rounds were set to penetrate and explode just a millisecond afterwards, if a 20mm German MG 151 round is set for 39, I'll reset the Jap for 30.:salute:

Bones