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Draenog
June 17th, 2011, 06:50
Hey Guys, Just uploaded this vid of my work in progress Shackleton sounds. Quality has been slighlty messed up by youtube, but let me know what you think?
http://www.youtube.com/user/Garysounds?feature=mhee#p/u/3/SiwonsX6TTs

cheers

Gary
harrybasset
June 17th, 2011, 08:16
Sounds great to me Gary, it's 40 years since I heard a Shack flying over my home town.
Moses03
June 17th, 2011, 09:20
Sounding nice Gary. I had the good fortune to see (and hear) Mk.II WL790 back in 2005 at the CAF airshow. I clearly remember the contra-props giving out a distinct pitch as in this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEZHefUMiKY&feature=related

Maybe you can dial in that "out of sync" sound just a little to round out your Griffin roar. My two cents.

Kevin

Edit: At 1:43 in this video is the best example of the sound I was trying to describe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3LnsSnTBqU
Desert Rat
June 17th, 2011, 10:54
Gary,

do I want these? not 'arf. Remember seeing these at airshows as a youngster, climbing under one into the cavernous bomb-bay (taildragger Mk.II AEW). It's hard to remember exactly how they sounded way back then, as a child, it was just VERY VERY loud and vibrated right through your entire body as they taxied by. From what I remember, these sound spot-on. Shame I can't blast these out for that rumble effect at the moment as the wee bairns are in bed.

:ernae:
Jamie
hawkeye52
June 17th, 2011, 15:22
While we are all on the topic of Shackeltons, I have always wondered about that "giant sparkplug" amidship (top). Will someone explain it to this ignorant Yank? :icon_lol:

- H52
Desert Rat
June 17th, 2011, 16:06
"giant sparkplug"

actually, it's a hole in the roof of the fuselage where they put the curling tongs out to cool down, you know, after a good pyjama party, the Shack crews were famous for them. Nothing like settling down on a long flight with your jammies on, a good scary film, popcorn and your 'gal-pals' for company.

Jamie
hawkeye52
June 17th, 2011, 16:27
C'mon Jamie, quit playing with me! That's really a flux capacitor, and you know it!

- H52
Desert Rat
June 17th, 2011, 16:34
It would be as well being a Flux capacitor, the length of time they served waiting for the Nimrod's to take over, time-travel was maybe the real reason they managed to soldier on so long. I for one was glad, I got to see them in the flesh, flying operationally and at shows.

all hail the flux-capacitor (with it's secondary hair styling ability)
Jamie
Wing_Z
June 17th, 2011, 19:43
...I clearly remember the contra-props giving out a distinct pitch ...
There was quite a shrill harmonic from those props, and quite loud and unpleasant from within.
Crews had permanent high-frequency hearing loss after hours on patrol.
Moses03
June 17th, 2011, 19:55
I have always wondered about that "giant sparkplug" amidship (top).



The giant sparkplug is the visible indication of the "Orange Harvest" passive ECM set. Used to detect enemy radar signals being aimed at the aircraft.


There was quite a shrill harmonic from those props, and quite loud and unpleasant from within.
Crews had permanent high-frequency hearing loss after hours on patrol.

Rgr that. From what I have read, the Mk.1's had no soundproofing and the interiors were painted matt black which made those 12 hr patrols depressing and very draining. Not until the Mk.3's did they improve the noise levels inside.
nigel richards
June 17th, 2011, 21:40
Gary, that sounds like an impressive soundset you have on the brew there!

Let's hear those Griffons GROWL!!!

:salute: Good work mate!
stuartcox
June 18th, 2011, 01:55
Just having looked at your new website, I'm more than impressed!
The Shackleton sound is coming along nicely, with those distinctive features of contra-rotating props & gurgling Griffons.
The only thing missing on the website are the download links, I love that RR Dart sound on the Herald! It's so painfull at idle - I never knew I could enjoy such a penetrating noise so much!
I always was a Lancaster fan, but with this new soundset I could easily be persuaded to swap with the Shackleton! Great work, I can't wait for the final release...

Regards, Stuart
DarrenL
June 18th, 2011, 03:06
You might have seen this one, but the 1984 Strathallan show flyby is full of noise.

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phrog_phixer
June 18th, 2011, 04:43
Wow....nice sounds....
DarrenL
June 18th, 2011, 07:23
The giant sparkplug is the visible indication of the "Orange Harvest" passive ECM set. Used to detect enemy radar signals being aimed at the aircraft.
.

Orange Harvest is an ESM (Electronic Support Measures for detection and classification), not ECM. It worked in the centrimetric range for detecting and classifying enemy X-Band (7.0 to 11.2 GHz) and S-Band (2.0 to 4.0 GHz.) radar.

:)
Draenog
June 18th, 2011, 11:51
Gee Guys, you caught me by surprise, i wasn't expecting this much feedback.....Thankyou very much:salute:

Decent samples are almost bled dry on this one. Thanks for the vid links.

Almost ready for release, but the file size is huge at present. I'm trying my best to shrink it without ruining quality.

Gary
DarrenL
June 18th, 2011, 14:07
Probably too late now then but I forgot the start up and running of 3 engines on WR963 a couple of months ago and showing it's new grey over white Coastal Command repaint. :)

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richw_82
June 27th, 2011, 02:35
Hi,I'm new here, so bear with me please! My name is Rich Woods, I'm part of the Shackleton Preservation Trust maintaining WR963 at Coventry in running condition. Our next engine run is on the 9 July, so if you want a decent recording of a Shackleton's characteristic 'growl', then please come along. If you see me before the run I can arrange to have any recording kit either on board, or in a place that would help you - as you're proably aware the sound is very different between in front of the aircraft, behind the aircraft, and inside.On another Shackleton related note - can anyone point me the way of a Shackleton MR2/AEW2 in simulator form? It seems that for the moment it's going to be the only way to get one in the air.Kind regards,Rich Woods
AndyG43
June 27th, 2011, 02:46
Hi,I'm new here, so bear with me please! My name is Rich Woods, I'm part of the Shackleton Preservation Trust maintaining WR963 at Coventry in running condition. Our next engine run is on the 9 July, so if you want a decent recording of a Shackleton's characteristic 'growl', then please come along. If you see me before the run I can arrange to have any recording kit either on board, or in a place that would help you - as you're proably aware the sound is very different between in front of the aircraft, behind the aircraft, and inside.On another Shackleton related note - can anyone point me the way of a Shackleton MR2/AEW2 in simulator form? It seems that for the moment it's going to be the only way to get one in the air.Kind regards,Rich Woods

Rich,

Welcome to the forum.

Can you please drop me a PM with your email address? There was a Shackleton released a few years back which, along with a variety of updates, can be found at Britsim.com (and it's probably worth you having a chat to them there as well - sure they would be glad to speak to you); the updates do involve a fair bit of work, getting other files etc - however, I have done all the hard work and coincidentally sent these files to somebody else yesterday, so I'm quite happy to do the same for you.

Andy
ian elliot
June 27th, 2011, 09:07
This is the Shackleton i use, probably the same as the one at Britsim, no vc but a fine model.



FS2004 (ACOF) - FS2004 WarbirdsFS2004 Avro Shackleton Flight Dynamics
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Name: shkltn.zip (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/kdl.php?fid=94892) Size: 8,574 Date: 11-14-2005 Downloads: 2,068
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/images/fscfiles/k/pd920150.gif FS2004 Avro Shackleton Flight Dynamics Update. This update includes fuel tanks. wing, empennage, load and landing gear locations, engine and propeller parameters and location, improved handling. Requires original model by Paul Foster (PD920150.ZIP (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/file.php?cm=SEARCH1&fsec=0&fname=PD920150.ZIP)). By Brian Horsey.



FS2002 - FS2002 AircraftFS2002/FS2004 Avro Shackleton
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Name: pd920150.zip (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/kdl.php?fid=94536) Size: 22,413,193 Date: 11-04-2005 Downloads: 4,049
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/images/fscfiles/k/pd920150.gif FS2002/FS2004 Avro Shackleton MR. MK 2 / AEW2 v.01. Avro Shackleton Mk 2 maritime patrol aircraft from the 1950s to early 70s went on to the 1990s as an AEW aircraft with the RAF. There are four models and five aircraft featured in this file. Model includes animated bomb bay doors and radar, basic panel and default sound. By Paul Foster.



cheers ian
AndyG43
June 27th, 2011, 10:00
That's the one Ian, but there are two updates at Britsim which will give you separated MR2 and AEW2 with better panels etc etc.
ian elliot
June 27th, 2011, 10:44
Didnt know that, i'll have to check them out.
thanks Andy, cheers ian
richw_82
June 30th, 2011, 03:06
I'm not far enough along with things to design a virtual cockpit (i'm just getting started in Flight Sims again), but if anybody wants any shots of the panels of of a Shackleton MR2/AEW2 (or even the MR1) I can get them.I've also got a lot of the manuals for the aircraft, so performance statistics, C of G tables, control movements and the like are all available. Anybody that wants to - pop along to Coventry airport on a Saturday, and I'll let you heave on the controls of the real thing. Kind regards Rich
AndyG43
June 30th, 2011, 04:13
Rich, did you check over at Britsim.com? There are screenshots of a wip Shackleton 3 (so who knows what else may be in the pipeling), I'm sure they would be delighted to hear from you.
RyDraiggoch
June 30th, 2011, 04:21
RichW

Andy is correct, Rob Richardson who has turned out some spectacular beasties in FSX like the Sea Venom, Meteor Mk8 and NF14 , Gannet, I could go on and on,.....However Rob has the preliminary work of a Mk3 going for FSX, as a tribute to Gary Jones marvellous Griffon sound file. Feel free to drop by (www.britsim.com (http://www.britsim.com)) and say hello, he might even be interested in doing a mK2.


Leif

Now where did I put those Viper sounds for the Mk3???
(wicked grin)
richw_82
June 30th, 2011, 04:30
I'll pop over and say "Hello" then! Haven't had much chance to go online the past few days, as I've been searching out parts for our aircraft. Just grabbed an hour to check in here and scan my emails! Trying to find 50 year old propeller parts is a pain in the rear end...
Regards, Rich