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WarHorse47
April 2nd, 2011, 14:00
Does anyone have any recommendations on a Eurofighter for FS9? Payware or freeware, it doesn't matter.

I've looked at the IRIS freeware, and the AFS Design and Combat Planes payware products and their reviews, and am not sure if there are others avaiable or not, or how they might compare to the IRIS E.A.P.

Also, does anyone know the relationship between the Eurofighter and the BAe Cyclone, Vortex or Tempest? Can't seem to find any references on these (not that it matters, but just curious anyways).

Thanks.
:ernae:

--WH
OBIO
April 2nd, 2011, 14:07
I did an update to the freeware Alphasim Eurofighter. The VC isn't the greatest...but it works. The external is pretty good. I uploaded the package to the library here on SOH.

The IRIS Eurofighter, formerly DSB....doesn't have a VC.....that's why I stick with the Alphasim version....a mediocre VC is better than no VC in my book.

OBIO
Matt Wynn
April 2nd, 2011, 14:30
Also, does anyone know the relationship between the Eurofighter and the BAe Cyclone, Vortex or Tempest? Can't seem to find any references on these (not that it matters, but just curious anyways).

Thanks.
:ernae:

--WH

simple WH, the BAe Systems E.A.P (Experimental Aircraft Programme) was the forerunner to Eurofighter, it was powered by twin RB-199's (Same engines as on the panavia tornado) it proved admirably in flight tests, performing things even the typhoon cannot do today, she could more or less stand on her tail for a short period if i recall. lessons learnt from the EAP were then put to use on the Eurofighter 2000 (as the Development typhoons were originally known), again a few 2000's were fitted with RB199 powerplants, but were later swapped for the eurojets.

the Vortex, Cyclone and Tempest are all what if aircraft and i love them for that, in my opinion the thing looks great with that double delta wing and the canards, give the IRIS EAP a go... she's a blast!
Desert Rat
April 2nd, 2011, 14:31
The Tempest, Cyclone and Vortex are fictitious versions ofthe EAP, a 'what-if' they had entered service. Other than that, I cannot comment other than AlphaSim has/had a newer version than the one Obio mentions.

Jamie

PS. Matt beat me to the punch.
Blackbird686
April 2nd, 2011, 14:58
Alpha/Virtavia also has a payware Eurofighter Typhoon, which is quite nice. It has a working radar. It also has a nice complement of textures done by Andy Knott and there is an additional "Export Pack" available for German and Italian models and paints. I have the Iris EAP installed and it's a real gem, so I fly them both.

BB686:USA-flag:
WarHorse47
April 2nd, 2011, 15:06
Alpha/Virtavia also has a payware Eurofighter Typhoon

Hmmm... the AlphaSim Eurofighter is no longer available, and Virtavia hasn't picked it up as yet so it seems. So... I'm still looking. :salute:

--WH
Matt Wynn
April 2nd, 2011, 15:22
i'm still waiting to hear anything of the old FS2004 TSR2 too... :icon_lol: but yeah the typhoon is good, the EAP is good... lotsa models there too :jump:

as for the real EAP... prepare for a sad sight.... can see the double delta or 'arrow' wing clearly against the wall and fitted....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/BAe_EAP_Lboro.JPG/800px-BAe_EAP_Lboro.JPG
WarHorse47
April 2nd, 2011, 15:44
Oh, my.... :salute:

Is that the lunch room or a conference room? Looks kinda tight and dusty. Regardless, I'd love to spend an afternoon there with my dust cloth. :wavey:

BTW - thanks for the background explaination, Smoothie.

--WH
Matt Wynn
April 2nd, 2011, 15:54
it's a lecture hall at the Aeronautical College at Loughborough, theres rumours of it being put back together and given to the RAF Museum at Cosford (less than 40mins from where i live), amazing to think this thing flew on 8-bit processors...
awj112
April 2nd, 2011, 18:01
Warhorse, if you absolutely must have a Eurofighter, there is Andreas Meyer's package at afs design. Jury is out on it.

I have the newer Alphasim Typhoon. Love everything except the ancient HUD. Would love to find a replacement.
Z-IanMCD
April 2nd, 2011, 22:55
Warhorse, if you absolutely must have a Eurofighter, there is Andreas Meyer's package at afs design. Jury is out on it.

I have the newer Alphasim Typhoon. Love everything except the ancient HUD. Would love to find a replacement.

The external model of the AFS one is IMHO ok, but nothing more. The FDE though is waaaay over the top! It's like flying a Viper out of Battlestar Galactica!

The best EF ever released was the latest payware offering of Alphasim/Virtavia!

Just my two €cents worth!
AndyG43
April 3rd, 2011, 00:24
it's a lecture hall at the Aeronautical College at Loughborough, theres rumours of it being put back together and given to the RAF Museum at Cosford (less than 40mins from where i live), amazing to think this thing flew on 8-bit processors...

Cosford would be the perfect home for this little beauty, alongside the other one-offs/prototypes they have there.
WarHorse47
April 3rd, 2011, 05:54
Does Virtivia have plans (or rights) to re-release the Eurofighter under their name?

There are a couple fine AlphaSim aircraft like the Raptor and TSR that I have yet to see under the Virtavia label.
Anybody have any insight into their upcoming releases? :173go1:

--WH
awj112
April 3rd, 2011, 06:27
As I recall, both the Raptor and Eurofighter were created by the same person. I suppose it it possible to see both.
Blackbird686
April 3rd, 2011, 09:09
i'm still waiting to hear anything of the old FS2004 TSR2 too... :icon_lol:

TSR2... Alphasim TSR2..... Is there a re-work in the making? Or am I just thinking wishfully...? I have the ALPHA TSR2 on my back-up, it's a bit dated but still a very nice rendetion of the real plane, and the ONLY one out there to the best of my knowing. There also is an add-on pack of various fictional skins for the plane that are SWEET! If anyone is interested in the add-on pack (which was freeware), send me a PM with an email addy and I'll dig it up and send you back a copy. Not real sure if it's still available from any FS websites.

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AndyG43
April 3rd, 2011, 09:43
TSR2... Alphasim TSR2..... Is there a re-work in the making? Or am I just thinking wishfully...? I have the ALPHA TSR2 on my back-up, it's a bit dated but still a very nice rendetion of the real plane, and the ONLY one out there to the best of my knowing. There also is an add-on pack of various fictional skins for the plane that are SWEET! If anyone is interested in the add-on pack (which was freeware), send me a PM with an email addy and I'll dig it up and send you back a copy. Not real sure if it's still available from any FS websites.

BB686:USA-flag:

There were a couple of others out there (Itosan did on iirc) but the Alphasim version was way better than any of them. I had a couple of repaints done myself, but they were lost in the dreaded crash - maybe I could re do them, if anybody is interested?
Blackbird686
April 3rd, 2011, 10:52
Absolutely!! This might just motivate me to re-install the old girl and grace the skies with her presence again. :ernae:

OK, back to topic... (Didn't mean to get sidetracked about the TSR2...)

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Matt Wynn
April 3rd, 2011, 11:14
back to Typhoon.... it featured in an FS Video i made before i really knew what i was doing...

I still regularly use the old DSB Typhoon even though it has no VC...
WarHorse47
April 3rd, 2011, 15:01
This will have to do until the AlphaSim/Virtavia version is re-released...

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a185/WarHorse47/Eurofighter/Eurofighter02.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a185/WarHorse47/Eurofighter/Eurofighter03.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a185/WarHorse47/Eurofighter/Eurofighter04.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a185/WarHorse47/Eurofighter/Eurofighter05.jpg

:ernae:

--WH
Matt Wynn
April 3rd, 2011, 15:34
whos typhoon is that? :jump:
WarHorse47
April 3rd, 2011, 15:40
whos typhoon is that? :jump:Abacus.

Thought I'd give it a try. Only one model and three textures - all good, but I doubt I'm going to find any repaints. Had to do some flight tuning to prevent flaunting myself all over the sky. The 2D and VC are pretty sparce, but functional. The HUD has some nice features I hadn't seen before. Might need to swap out the sounds and do some tweaking as time goes on.
:ernae:

--WH
jhoopes2
April 3rd, 2011, 18:53
Second/triple that on the EAP by IRIS...love it. Great schemes, and various loadouts. Nice VC/Panel...and its free. "CHA-CHING!"
WarHorse47
April 5th, 2011, 04:37
I sent off an e-mail to Virtavia and asked if they had any plans for re-release the Eurofighter, but no response as yet. It will be a shame if they don't or if they can't.

--WH
fsafranek
April 5th, 2011, 09:50
I sent off an e-mail to Virtavia and asked if they had any plans for re-release the Eurofighter, but no response as yet. It will be a shame if they don't or if they can't.

--WH
Alphasim's Eurofighter included a two-seater as well. The problem with re-release of that one is the same as with their F-8 discussed in another thread, the F-22, the Big-E, etc. Those models remain the property of Carl Edwards (ninja-mouse). Until he agrees, they can't be repackaged.
:ernae:
Desert Rat
April 5th, 2011, 10:09
TSR2... and the ONLY one out there to the best of my knowing.

There is another I'm aware of, but have never tried it,

http://www.bluesteelfs.com/

there's a couple of other prototypes there to.

Jamie
AndyG43
April 5th, 2011, 10:38
There is another I'm aware of, but have never tried it,

http://www.bluesteelfs.com/

there's a couple of other prototypes there to.

Jamie

It's pretty rough Jamie, Itosan's is better, and Alphasim's is best.
Desert Rat
April 5th, 2011, 10:51
Cheers Andy,

I have the AS one, so had no need to try the others :d

Jamie
WarHorse47
April 5th, 2011, 15:01
Alphasim's Eurofighter included a two-seater as well. The problem with re-release of that one is the same as with their F-8 discussed in another thread, the F-22, the Big-E, etc. Those models remain the property of Carl Edwards (ninja-mouse). Until he agrees, they can't be repackaged.
:ernae:Virtavia responded that the re-release of the Eurofighter is on "indefinite hold."
Bummer. :toilet:

--WH
WarHorse47
April 8th, 2011, 04:35
Well, my quest for a decent Eurofighter continues.

The AlphaSim version is no longer available, so that's out. I picked up the AFS version. It's okay, but not stellar. So for the moment, I'm flying the Abacus version. It has the less quirks, decent flight dynamics, and less framerate impacts.

I found another version available, but it seemed a little too much for my older system. Anybody have the X1 Software version and care to comment?

http://www.x1software.net/index.php?id=460

:ernae:

--WH