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peperez
December 29th, 2010, 01:43
I have three reasons. Judge by yourself. The Tupolev 16 is an old friend of mine...


Cheers


Pepe

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Seagull V
December 29th, 2010, 02:20
Pepe, check your email, hopefully someone will be able to help out with a model & airfile. :salute:

Nole
December 29th, 2010, 08:37
Pepe, which missles specifically do you need? The stand-offs and anti-ships? Old Cold War versions or the new stuff?

peperez
December 29th, 2010, 10:47
Pepe, which missles specifically do you need? The stand-offs and anti-ships? Old Cold War versions or the new stuff?

I need the AS-5 Kelp and AS-6 Kingfish and similar vintage cruise missiles. If possible, I would love also a C-201 and C-801 missiles. Some nuclear and termonuclear devices also are welcomed.

Cheers

Pepe

Kofschip
December 29th, 2010, 16:46
I need the AS-5 Kelp and AS-6 Kingfish and similar vintage cruise missiles. If possible, I would love also a C-201 and C-801 missiles. Some nuclear and termonuclear devices also are welcomed.

Cheers

Pepe

Are you trying to start WW III?:applause: It looks like you are working on some awesome aircraft. I am looking forward to the final results. :ernae:

Nole
December 29th, 2010, 19:14
I need the AS-5 Kelp and AS-6 Kingfish and similar vintage cruise missiles. If possible, I would love also a C-201 and C-801 missiles. Some nuclear and termonuclear devices also are welcomed.

Cheers

Pepe

Barring any experts stepping forward, I'll do the AS-5 Kelt and AS-6 Kingfish for you. I'm just learning design work with the help of Tango_Romeo. I'll do the model work and get TR to help me with the BGLs. Seems a simple enough starter project for me to tackle. Will you need the pylons too?

peperez
December 30th, 2010, 00:34
Barring any experts stepping forward, I'll do the AS-5 Kelt and AS-6 Kingfish for you. I'm just learning design work with the help of Tango_Romeo. I'll do the model work and get TR to help me with the BGLs. Seems a simple enough starter project for me to tackle. Will you need the pylons too?

Yehp for the Bison and for the Tu-95! Thank you a lot! EMail me to send you the Badger...

Pepe

peperez
December 30th, 2010, 00:36
Are you trying to start WW III?:applause: It looks like you are working on some awesome aircraft. I am looking forward to the final results. :ernae:

Just look above...

Cheers

Pepe

PomBee
December 30th, 2010, 05:53
Wonderful. Just what I need as I've made up a "what if" WW3 installation.

PomBee.:salute::salute::salute:

Shadow Wolf 07
December 30th, 2010, 07:28
Historical note: As of the signing of the START treaty in 1991 the Bison and TU-16 were no longer in the Soviet (now Russian Federation) inventory. The only long range heavy bombers they had were the Tu-95 Bear and the Tu-22 Backfire. Based upon our START inspections, the entire Backfire fleet was judged to be not airworthy, leaving only the Bear as a reliable bomber.

Nole
December 30th, 2010, 07:52
Yehp for the Bison and for the Tu-95! Thank you a lot! EMail me to send you the Badger...

Pepe

Done...

tobob
December 30th, 2010, 08:13
I'm just learning design work with the help of Tango_Romeo. I'll do the model work and get TR to help me with the BGLs.

I could help with any modelling but not sure how to turn into bgl weapons. It would be interesting to see a walk through. Let me know what's needed.

tobob

safn1949
December 30th, 2010, 08:15
Historical note: As of the signing of the START treaty in 1991 the Bison and TU-16 were no longer in the Soviet (now Russian Federation) inventory. The only long range heavy bombers they had were the Tu-95 Bear and the Tu-22 Backfire. Based upon our START inspections, the entire Backfire fleet was judged to be not airworthy, leaving only the Bear as a reliable bomber.

I am by no means any kind of expert on these matters,I'm a tank guy.What about the Tu-160 and do you have any links that show the Tu-22 has been grounded? I would like to read about that.

Pepe,those are beautiful,I look forward to them.:jump:

Nole
December 30th, 2010, 08:42
I could help with any modelling but not sure how to turn into bgl weapons. It would be interesting to see a walk through. Let me know what's needed.

tobob

I've just about finished the AS-5 and am looking at the pylon, if Pepe needs it. Why don't you take on the AS-6? TR did a great tute on creating the wep BGL. It's posted at SimV in CFS2/Misc. A great walk-through. TR is helping me out with the modeling and the BGL stuff. See the thread on SimV's CFS2 forum where we're working.

Shadow Wolf 07
December 30th, 2010, 08:44
I am by no means any kind of expert on these matters,I'm a tank guy.What about the Tu-160 and do you have any links that show the Tu-22 has been grounded? I would like to read about that.

Pepe,those are beautiful,I look forward to them.:jump:

Nothing about the Tu-160. The Soviets/Russians didn't declare it. We (USA) declared the B-52G and H, the B-1 and B-2 only (no flying B-47s or B-58s left). The airworthyness of the Tu-22 was the assesment of our experts who conducted the inspections on site. I wasn't there in person. My team only inspected SLBM, silo, SS-25 road mobile and SS-24 rail mobile ICBM bases. The Russians haven't to my knowledge scrapped the Tu-22 yet.

peperez
December 30th, 2010, 09:02
Historical note: As of the signing of the START treaty in 1991 the Bison and TU-16 were no longer in the Soviet (now Russian Federation) inventory. The only long range heavy bombers they had were the Tu-95 Bear and the Tu-22 Backfire. Based upon our START inspections, the entire Backfire fleet was judged to be not airworthy, leaving only the Bear as a reliable bomber.

The Backfire fleet was converted to patrol duties and their refueling equipment were removed after START 1. The Strategic fleet is formed by Tupolev 95M and Tupolev 160. The Tu-160 fleet was enhanced with the adition of ex-Ukrainian planes. Believe it or not, their electronic signature is smaller than B-1B one...

Cheers

Pepe

Shadow Wolf 07
December 30th, 2010, 09:19
The Backfire fleet was converted to patrol duties and their refueling equipment were removed after START 1. The Strategic fleet is formed by Tupolev 95M and Tupolev 160. The Tu-160 fleet was enhanced with the adition of ex-Ukrainian planes. Believe it or not, their electronic signature is smaller than B-1B one...

Cheers

Pepe

Yep, you're right... The "Blackjack" was declared in START. My mistake... :redface:

peperez
December 31st, 2010, 02:00
Yep, you're right... The "Blackjack" was declared in START. My mistake... :redface:
Spasibo tovarich!

Pepe

safn1949
December 31st, 2010, 04:50
That's interesting,as with their tank force most of it was in "storage" translation,junk and they finally did junk thousands of them.As far as I can tell from public sources Russia only has 16 Tu-160's and the Ukrainian Air force has 11 of them.

I remember a friend talking about the 4 Russian Navy ships that sailed to Venezuela and what effect that would have on things and I commented they probably only had 4 ships left that would go that far.Just my opinion based on nothing.

They seem to finally have accepted that that there is only enough money to run so much equipment and that having loads of stuff laying around to boost numbers was a waste of time.

Shadow Wolf 07
December 31st, 2010, 06:22
That's interesting,as with their tank force most of it was in "storage" translation,junk and they finally did junk thousands of them.As far as I can tell from public sources Russia only has 16 Tu-160's and the Ukrainian Air force has 11 of them.

I remember a friend talking about the 4 Russian Navy ships that sailed to Venezuela and what effect that would have on things and I commented they probably only had 4 ships left that would go that far.Just my opinion based on nothing.

They seem to finally have accepted that that there is only enough money to run so much equipment and that having loads of stuff laying around to boost numbers was a waste of time.

The Ru Federation had severe financial problems in the early 90's and much of their military fell into disrepair. Now, with more oil money coming in, they have more to devote to maintenance and weapons development. Putin and his successor pressed for that, Eltsin didn't. Nunn-Lugar helped by pouring in resources to keep their nuclear and chem-bio scientists from going rogue and help them secure their nuclear materials and help convert production facilities to peaceful products.

I'm pretty sure that the strategic bombers, based in Ukraine were "bought" back by the Russians for debt forgiveness before START went into effect. Nuff said... I don't want to hijack Pepe's thread. :salute:

peperez
January 1st, 2011, 11:24
The Ru Federation had severe financial problems in the early 90's and much of their military fell into disrepair. Now, with more oil money coming in, they have more to devote to maintenance and weapons development. Putin and his successor pressed for that, Eltsin didn't. Nunn-Lugar helped by pouring in resources to keep their nuclear and chem-bio scientists from going rogue and help them secure their nuclear materials and help convert production facilities to peaceful products.

I'm pretty sure that the strategic bombers, based in Ukraine were "bought" back by the Russians for debt forgiveness before START went into effect. Nuff said... I don't want to hijack Pepe's thread. :salute:

I work as a Defence and International Affairs specialist. My interest areas are Far East and Ex-Soviet countries. So, I follow Russian changes with close interest. They really bought back the Tu-160 Blackjack. Now, the Russian Federation is reorganizing its Armed Forces. The idea is have a slimmer but more professional force. They are refiting its Su-27, Su-24, Su25, Su-30 and MiG-29 fighter force; are receiving new Su-35 and Su-34 and new UAVs. Lots of detail at RIA-Novosti site.

By the way, you can hijack my post anytime when you have important info to share...

Cheers

Pepe

peperez
January 1st, 2011, 11:27
I need to test them. They are Alphasim classics, the F-105D and the F-107 that compete for the same bid. The F-107 could be an interesting Vietnam what if...

Cheers

Pepe

Nole
January 2nd, 2011, 22:31
I think I got everything Pepe needed finished: two freefall nukes, AS-5 and AS-6 missiles....with a lot of sweat, my limited FSDS skills and a heap of help from TR looking over my shoulder and lending a hand. Truly I labor in the shadows of giants.

bub
January 2nd, 2011, 23:50
Nole,
Very, very nice! I look forward to the final product. You won't be toiling long, the way you're going, you'll be one soon.
Bub

tobob
January 3rd, 2011, 06:09
Looks great Nole! :salute:

Sorry I was pretty busy over the holidays otherwise I would have helped out. You banged those out fast, looks like you dont need much help. :jump:

tobob

Shadow Wolf 07
January 3rd, 2011, 06:17
I work as a Defence and International Affairs specialist. My interest areas are Far East and Ex-Soviet countries. So, I follow Russian changes with close interest. They really bought back the Tu-160 Blackjack. Now, the Russian Federation is reorganizing its Armed Forces. The idea is have a slimmer but more professional force. They are refiting its Su-27, Su-24, Su25, Su-30 and MiG-29 fighter force; are receiving new Su-35 and Su-34 and new UAVs. Lots of detail at RIA-Novosti site.

By the way, you can hijack my post anytime when you have important info to share...

Cheers

Pepe

Cool. I used to work the START and INF treaties with the On-Site Inspection Agency (OSIA), now DTRA, as an interpreter and iinspector from 1993 to 1998, when I retired from the Army.

CrisGer
January 3rd, 2011, 07:28
Do the new nucs use the A Bomb effect or has someone created a more modern and enhanced modern atomic blast effect? An H Bomb?

Remarkable. Even tho i try to follow such matters..and have friends in Russia who help, I learned more in reading these two pages than i have in five years of research. The Naval side is similar. Many of the subs are grounded, sunk or so far gone that they will never be brought back. Same for support vessels and ships of all classes. It is tragic after a century and more of effort to build a two ocean deep water navy, but it was so expensive to maintain ships in the artic environment..and there were major moral problems in keeping skilled petty officer rank types who really run any navy. You can find satelite pictures of the "mothball" read junk fleets and it is very sad ....but for the purposes of disarrmenent and world peace, a good thing. If either of you have info on the naval side, pls post or start a sep thread.

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3356/russianpacificfleet.jpg

Russian Pacific fleet rusting at its moorings...in 2007...

I see subs of the class of Delta III, four Oscar IIs, four Akulas, and a slew of older classes (maybe Victor IIIs?

I believe a couple of the old boats are old diesel boats old Foxtrots I did spot a pair of Kilo class SS boats and out by itself in the bay at one pont there was an Delta III. There’s also what appears to be an Alfa in a floating drydock to the southwest.

In the northwest Russia’s Barents Sea region, there are/were 118 scrapped nuclear submarines...since 1959 Russian built 450 some naval nuclear reactors....

moonbutter2
January 3rd, 2011, 12:55
This is so exciting! I need to retire so I can fly more!

I can't wait Pepe.

Ryan

peperez
January 4th, 2011, 05:47
This is so exciting! I need to retire so I can fly more!

I can't wait Pepe.

Ryan

I joined Lazlo Beck Soviet weapons to Nole's work. The Tupolevs have now a very complete bombload, including thermonuclear, nuclear, antiship and a 19,000lb conventional bomb! I'll realease it in two packages: Soviet and Egyptian. After that, we'll build some Xian versions that are still active.

Cheers

Pepe

mechler
January 6th, 2011, 08:51
I joined Lazlo Beck Soviet weapons to Nole's work. The Tupolevs have now a very complete bombload, including thermonuclear, nuclear, antiship and a 19,000lb conventional bomb! I'll realease it in two packages: Soviet and Egyptian. After that, we'll build some Xian versions that are still active.

Cheers

Pepe

file found these weapons.27342

peperez
January 8th, 2011, 13:53
Has a very large MOI. So, we are testing new air configuration for use the Tupolevs as AI...

Cheers

Pepe

peperez
January 13th, 2011, 19:32
I'll upload it tomorrow...

peperez
January 15th, 2011, 05:08
in pilot and AI forms. Only one bug, common to jet in CFS2. You need to fly the plane in Free Flight BEFORE fly it at Campaigns and Missions that begin at the air. This is not necessary if you take off with the bird.

Cheers

Pepe

sc7500
January 15th, 2011, 09:07
Good Work, Pepe' - A great addition to my Contemporary Hangar ! :salute:

Best
SC
:kilroy:

Nole
January 17th, 2011, 14:23
We don't need no stinkin' Soviet missiles from Nole, 'cause we got some of his new Chinese 201s and 801s. Sneak Preview of Pepe's H-6 wearing a beautious skin by Bub himself.

mechler
January 24th, 2011, 13:12
a tu-22M2 has
make me happy on Updats

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peperez
January 25th, 2011, 07:31
a tu-22M2 has
make me happy on Updats

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The download it's not working...

mechler
January 25th, 2011, 09:59
The download it's not working...



I must try once again

mechler
January 25th, 2011, 10:12
Clay/tone and panel inferred. Hope it goes.
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Nole
January 25th, 2011, 17:35
Clay/tone and panel inferred. Hope it goes.
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This Tu-22 aircraft file comes from a Pirate website, namely Priester's ABsquad site. It has no place here. Some of the file names have been changed, but the Panel.CFG tells the tale.

peperez
January 26th, 2011, 03:22
This Tu-22 aircraft file comes from a Pirate website, namely Priester's ABsquad site. It has no place here. Some of the file names have been changed, but the Panel.CFG tells the tale.

The plane is a pirated Kazunori Ito one. I'm looking for a version without this problems.

Cheers

Pepe

Shadow Wolf 07
January 26th, 2011, 15:50
During an INF Treaty inspection at the training facility (polygon) at Kapustin Yar, RU Federation (about 120 km east of Volgograd/Stalingrad), we verified the status of this static display. It's an RSD-10 aka SS-20 "Saber" (NATO designation). It was my first inspection in the former SU in December of 1993. Cold!

Shadow Wolf 07
January 27th, 2011, 05:46
A static display of the Sov's first operational missile... Gee, it looks a lot like a captured V-2!

peperez
January 27th, 2011, 12:57
A static display of the Sov's first operational missile... Gee, it looks a lot like a captured V-2!

Like the first American missile, it was a V-2 derivative. America got 2/3 of Von Braun's team. The other third choose Soviet Union. Both teams gone voluntarily to their captors lines in lorries.

Cheers

Pepe