For those who don't know yet : MyTraffic 2006 (4.1) now free

[Z-claudius24]

Hi,

http://forum.simflight.com/topic/66855-mytraffic-2006-dumped-to-free-download/page__pid__420197#entry420197

Mirror:
http://www.multiupload.com/J45C4LQT2J

[TomSteber]

How does this compare with Ultimate Traffic for 2004?

[Sascha66]

While it is nice to get this program as freeware I find the release post unnecessarily offensive - calling all flightsim freeware "worthless software"? WTF?!! I can only hope that this is a misguided attempt at humour. I would post this over there but have no intention of registering just to rant! :angryfir:

Sascha

[awj112]

How does this compare with Ultimate Traffic for 2004?

I tried it and ended up going with Just Flight's Traffic; may have been an earlier version. I did download it though.

[casey jones]

I find this is the continuing mentality of this atitude in the fltsim world. If it is not the most update FS then all past flightsim programs are worthless...I am always seeing on VA sights (not all) That they do not support FS2002 or Fs2004. There is nothing wrong or obsolte about FS2004, to me it is the best ever and I will continue to fly its skies...in my opinum only FSX is a great sim and I do have it, but I see now more payware for this sim then freeware, I think it will never be as popular as FS2004.


Cheers

Casey

[ian elliot]

I like the line

Its now more than 4 years ago that FS9 got obsoleted by FSX

When did that happen, i must of missed it :wiggle:
cheers ian

[Willy]

You're not alone. I missed that one too.

[Wulf190]

Huh....


..Then my collection of CFS2 aircraft is exceedingly 'worthless'.

I like and prefer FS9 and CFS2 to other 'modern' sims because of the freeware support.

[Milton Shupe]

While it is nice to get this program as freeware I find the release post unnecessarily offensive - calling all flightsim freeware "worthless software"? WTF?!! I can only hope that this is a misguided attempt at humour. I would post this over there but have no intention of registering just to rant! :angryfir:

Sascha

Remembering that English is not the first language for Claudius, I suspect his meaning was slightly different than we read it. I know Claudius has been supportive of our efforts for some time. I looked at his intent like "Not marketable as payware is".

EDIT: Upon retrospect, and being informed that Burkhard is NOT Claudius, I apologize for the assumption above. (Insert embarrassed face here)


I find this is the continuing mentality of this atitude in the fltsim world. If it is not the most update FS then all past flightsim programs are worthless...I am always seeing on VA sights (not all) That they do not support FS2002 or Fs2004. There is nothing wrong or obsolte about FS2004, to me it is the best ever and I will continue to fly its skies...in my opinum only FSX is a great sim and I do have it, but I see now more payware for this sim then freeware, I think it will never be as popular as FS2004.

Cheers
Casey

That's a shame. I still develop for FS9, FS8, and help with and support the CFS2/3 conversions. There is still a loyal following for these earlier sims and I do not intend to abandon loyalty anytime soon.

[Wing_Z]

Yes I think perhaps we are burdened by all the smiley flags we use - no question that the release post is intended as humour, just not signposted in the "usual" way!

I am curious as to the possible benefits of this and other (payware) AI packages, over something like World of AI/Alpha India/Fruitstand/Aardvark/RATS et al.
I'd have thought they more than catered for worldwide AI traffic??

[rich12545]

It looked to me like an attempt at sarcasm. Hard to pull off on a forum if English is your first language.

[dhasdell]

Let's hope it was just a language thing, as otherwise we'd have to ask for an entire 27 page thread to be renamed from "Freeware gems" to "Worthless software".

[aardvark62]

Would love to hear any opinions about the product itself - as Wing_Z asked, how does it compare to the currently available freeware offerings?
I'm hesitant to try it because apparently it is a bit of a frame-rate reducing space hog, with no uninstaller. Has anyone else actually used it ?

Cheers, A.

[dhasdell]

There's a review of My Traffic 2006 here (http://www.avsim.com/pages/0406/Traffic06/traffic06.htm) at Avsim

[Wild Bill Kelso]

I definitely do not agree to Burkhard's (whom I presume being Burkhard Renk, the creator of "My Traffic") statement about "FS9 becoming obsoleted by FSX", but I appreciate his gesture to turn this software into freeware.
So instead of discussing about possible language shortcomings, we should agree about this:

1. FSX got obsoleted by FS2004 in advance. :bump:
2. Thanks to Burkhard for making a fine and useful program free!

I use MyTraffic2004 since January 2007 and still enjoy its plethora of aircraft, adequate paints and flightplans. I don't waste a single minute about their accuracy and perceive them as nice decoration of my flightsim world. Nothing more - nothing less!

Cheers,
Markus.

[Clarke123]

Honestly, stick with WOAI, the only positive of MyTraffic is the all in one installer as opposed to individualy installing airlines. I jacked in Just Flights Traffic in favour of WOAI because the amount of free, high quality and constantly updated AI there is out there you shouldn't need to pay for AI ever again. The MyTraffic and Just Flight stuff looks very dated when put next to WOAI.

[rich12545]

Just curious if many of you who only fly from GA fields even bother with AI traffic? They can't be seen while flying in the air and sometimes I wonder what the point is.

[Daube]

Just curious if many of you who only fly from GA fields even bother with AI traffic? They can't be seen while flying in the air and sometimes I wonder what the point is.

Because it makes your sky alive.
Even when flying only GA, sometimes you want to land in an airport controlled by a tower, and seeing planes in and around that airport is definitely enjoyable.
You don't need to limit your flights to the major airports to see AI flights.

[awj112]

Honestly, stick with WOAI, the only positive of MyTraffic is the all in one installer as opposed to individualy installing airlines. I jacked in Just Flights Traffic in favour of WOAI because the amount of free, high quality and constantly updated AI there is out there you shouldn't need to pay for AI ever again. The MyTraffic and Just Flight stuff looks very dated when put next to WOAI.

I would second that; I am just too lazy to hunt down and install the individual airlines and AFCADs from WOAI. I have already replaced Just Flight's military traffic with files from Military AI Works. Just Flight's Traffic gets me by for civilian and GA traffic.

[Wing_Z]

Just curious if many of you who only fly from GA fields even bother with AI traffic? They can't be seen while flying in the air and sometimes I wonder what the point is.
It makes a huge difference to the immersion to arrive at a small airport and find a Cessna or whatnot on the grass, or maybe in the circuit.
Way back in the NZ context, we had a number of excellent sceneries which had no AI service at all, being ignored by the purveyors of heavy iron.
We created a nationwide sub-5t AI fleet and it totally transformed the experience.
Making it authentic added to the "eye candy" content for local flyers: "Ooh look there's the plane we used for first solo, parked on the grass at Ardmore!"
The trick is not to expect too much..of course they're not going to be there all the time.
But if you fly enough, there will be enough encounters to make it worthwhile.


Honestly, stick with WOAI...The MyTraffic and Just Flight stuff looks very dated when put next to WOAI.

I would second that; I am just too lazy to hunt down and install the individual airlines and AFCADs from WOAI...
Thanks, I somehow suspected that the newer WOAI would be hard to beat - after all that's why I all but abandoned PAI.
These days I hardly ever fly from AFCAD-only airfields...I'll install a high-quality free-or payware scenery, and then go to WOAI and install traffic for it.
I find it a very powerful feature.
As to military traffic, I couldn't think of a single reason to uninstall the MAIW stuff I have at present, it's brilliant.

[Sid2008]

....is learning to be like the old donkey that the farmer wanted to bury in his well...as he kept shoveling dirt on the donmkey in the well...the donkey simply shook of the dirt and stepped up.

My 2 cents.
Sid

[dandog]

I find life to be VERY subjective. I like what I like and do not like what I do not like. I will, however, leave to the indidvidual to make up thier own mind. Who am I to pass judgement? That being said, I have purchased FS9 payware that was awesome. Some I would not load even if it was freeware. I have some freeware that blows some of the better payware projects away. Some free freeware should be payware (pay me to use it). However, most people, in thier attempt at feeling important pass on very specific judgemants and opinions. Be a duck. Make up your own mind, and do not pass judgement on the one who may say things that you disagree with. We all have the right to be who we are as long as we do not cause hurt or damage to another. I find the different ego's in the flight sim world to be a matter of entertainment. Just my 4 cents(adjusted for infaltion).

[Wing_Z]

I'm not entirely sure where this conversation is going...or coming from.
The author has by his own admission, dropped a previously payware item into the freeware market because it no longer measures up.

It now has to compete with some seriously competent stuff in that area.
It is perfectly reasonable to ask where it might fit in, especially since it looks like quite a commitment to install.
Markus looks happy enough with it...
From the above discussion, I might not uninstall what I already have, built up over a long period.

Does anyone have a problem with this approach?
Then say so, and why...

[Clarke123]

I find life to be VERY subjective. I like what I like and do not like what I do not like. I will, however, leave to the indidvidual to make up thier own mind. Who am I to pass judgement? That being said, I have purchased FS9 payware that was awesome. Some I would not load even if it was freeware. I have some freeware that blows some of the better payware projects away. Some free freeware should be payware (pay me to use it). However, most people, in thier attempt at feeling important pass on very specific judgemants and opinions. Be a duck. Make up your own mind, and do not pass judgement on the one who may say things that you disagree with. We all have the right to be who we are as long as we do not cause hurt or damage to another. I find the different ego's in the flight sim world to be a matter of entertainment. Just my 4 cents(adjusted for infaltion).
Very zen mate but he asked for people's opinion's and judgment's and they're giving him their opinion's and judgement's. What's the problem here? We've had it in countless other threads so why are people getting covertly snarky over this one?

[Milton Shupe]

I definitely do not agree to Burkhard's (whom I presume being Burkhard Renk, the creator of "My Traffic") statement about "FS9 becoming obsoleted by FSX", but I appreciate his gesture to turn this software into freeware.
So instead of discussing about possible language shortcomings, we should agree about this:

1. FSX got obsoleted by FS2004 in advance. :bump:
2. Thanks to Burkhard for making a fine and useful program free!

I use MyTraffic2004 since January 2007 and still enjoy its plethora of aircraft, adequate paints and flightplans. I don't waste a single minute about their accuracy and perceive them as nice decoration of my flightsim world. Nothing more - nothing less!

Cheers,
Markus.

I have to agree Markus; it is now freeware and seems to be a very nice, feature-rich package. Let's enjoy it, be thankful and move one. Happy Holidays everyone.:jump:

[edmoore235]

Hmmm, not so happy with this software. It has made changes to my install of FS that I am not happy with. How do you UNINSTALL this program? Did not find an entry in Control Panel.
Take care.

Ed

[Wing_Z]

Sorry to hear it...
This was exactly the kind of issue that I was trying to avoid, by having this discussion.

For the posters above who have taken the view that one should not try for an objective assessment of this software:
Ai (and especially Commercial AI) packages are not like say, an aircraft model, that you can plug in and discard if it doesn't work for you.
As Ed demonstrates, they can be quite invasive, and difficult to undo.

A forum like this is a great place to identify, and perhaps work around, possible problems.
I think this type of discussion is more than warranted in cases like this.

Ed, I hope someone can help you get your system back.

[edmoore235]

Yep, I screwed up by installing this software. It has changed ALL parking and aircraft in the AI part of FS2004. It is like cancer, MyTraffic has files all over hells half acre.... sigh. I can not find a UNINSTALL anywhere on the computer.... any one have any ideas? I may have to try a system restore back a few months, but I will wait for a week in case someone smarter then me has a solution to this thing. Take care and beware.

Ed

[Clarke123]

I installed mine to temporary folder and manually put in just the aircraft and traffic files. I suggest you install to a temp folder then you can see exactly what has gone where and remove it manually. Looking at mine, none of the default should have overwritten so, once it's out you should be golden.

[edmoore235]

Thanks Clarke123, your suggestion worked - only the DAT file in the addon folder had to be redone by adding back the missing addons. Mytraffic took the file from about 120 entries down to only 50 so it took about five minutes to readd scenery files from the addon folder and viola it seems all is great again. No more MyTraffic for me.... yuck. Have a most Happy and Joyeous Holiday seasons and Merry Christmas to all.

Ed

[aardvark62]

Ed - glad you got things back to where they should be. I think this answers my question, Thankyou.

Cheers, A.

[Milton Shupe]

Very zen mate but he asked for people's opinion's and judgment's and they're giving him their opinion's and judgement's. What's the problem here? We've had it in countless other threads so why are people getting covertly snarky over this one?

My issue on the first page of responses was regarding the thread going OT with comments about freeware. I have exactly NO issues with discussing the pros and cons of this package. Good points raised, and proven.

Glad you got it sorted out Ed.

[Wild Bill Kelso]

It has changed ALL parking and aircraft in the AI part of FS2004.

Sorry to hear about your issues, but that's due to the scenery priority!
Quoting from their FAQ:


Please make sure that the prorities of MyWorldAirports in the scenery library is below the one of any add on airport otherwise it will overwrite it.

So placing this scenery.cfg entry at the lowest position will set your custom AI and AFCAD "on top".

Cheers,
Markus.

[edmoore235]

Hmm, Markus, where are these FAQs at? Not inside the ZIP nor the manuals after install. Is there a site for MyTraffic somewhere? Thanks in advance.

Ed (Happy Holidays)

[Wild Bill Kelso]

Dunno about MyTraffic 2006, for I still run the 2004 version, but there's a "My Traffic" folder created within the FS9 root folder with a "manual.htm" file included (not sure about the actual filename, as I'm at work now...).

Cheers,
Markus.

[edmoore235]

Thank you Sir. Yes, I found that folder AFTER the install and it was already too late for me.... smile. It would be best if it was stated in BOLD LETTERS: THERE IS NO UNINSTALL and this program will reorder and delete your scenery setup. Have a happy holiday season. Take care.

Ed

[lliaghll]

Thanks for warning me about setting MyWorldAirports way down the scenery list. It worked fine.

The reason I installed this addon is that I can now have a fourth version of FS9. Yes, having a modern, a propliner (CalClassic) and a vintage (GoldenWings) version wasn't quite enough. What about all those planes too new for the CalClassic but too old for the modern version? Those poor lost Starfighters, Voodoos, DC-9's, 727's etc. that don't quite fit anywhere. Well, thanks to the 1970's or 1980's setting of MyTraffic (haven't quite decided yet), they have a home. A post propliner FS9 with AI flights. More reason to waste time tweaking yet another fantasy world. My wife will be so happy.

Thanks, Merry Christmas,

Lyle

[nater]

Does this include more GA traffic?

[Sunny9850]

Thanks for warning me about setting MyWorldAirports way down the scenery list. It worked fine.

The reason I installed this addon is that I can now have a fourth version of FS9. Yes, having a modern, a propliner (CalClassic) and a vintage (GoldenWings) version wasn't quite enough. What about all those planes too new for the CalClassic but too old for the modern version? Those poor lost Starfighters, Voodoos, DC-9's, 727's etc. that don't quite fit anywhere. Well, thanks to the 1970's or 1980's setting of MyTraffic (haven't quite decided yet), they have a home. A post propliner FS9 with AI flights. More reason to waste time tweaking yet another fantasy world. My wife will be so happy.

Thanks, Merry Christmas,

Lyle


LOL Lyle that was a good laugh. Thanks for that one. I am sure there is a club for wifes/girlfriends of FS addicts out there somewhere.

I never let any program install directly into my FS installation. A temp folder is the way to go. If the installer barks one can usually copy in a dummy FS9.exe and let it run. If that fails to work it must be a very very special piece of software that still is allowed to continue.
And then only after I run a new drive "Snapshot" to have as a backup in case things go pear shaped.

When doing the manual install I also do not move the files from the temp folder into the sim....copy only. If you later have to remove files it is easier to find out what was added and needs to be removed.

Cheers
Stefan