SIM SKUNK WORKS F104-S STARFIGHTER VERSION 3 DEVELOPING NEWS

[LUCE1]

from SIM SKUNK WORKS SITE (http://www.vaafse.org/simskunkwors) :

http://www.vaafse.org/simskunkworks/images/stories/varie/accel_350.jpg

http://www.vaafse.org/simskunkworks/images/stories/varie/superacc_sheet.jpg

We concluded the supersonic acceleration tests to refine the flight dynamics model of SIM SKUNK WORKS F104S "Starfighter" version 3.0.
These results look very good as shown in the chart, the red line is the acceleration taken from real flight data, the blue line those of our model, as you can see they are very close, the square root error is approx. 7 seconds.
Below some screen shoots of the 3D virtual cockpit under development.

http://www.ftp.102virtual.org/varie/preview1.jpg

http://www.ftp.102virtual.org/varie/preview2.jpg

[kilo delta]

This aircraft just keeps getting better and better!

:salute:

[flaviossa]

Waiting for this!! The v2 is great, imagine the v3!!

[LUCE1]

Waiting for this!! The v2 is great, imagine the v3!!
planning to release it first quarter 2011
cheers

http://www.vaafse.org/simskunkworks/signatures/simskunk-developer-sign.png

[HenryW]

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/Starfighters/7-1.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/Starfighters/1-2.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/Starfighters/2-2.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/cl2.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/1-80.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/1-79.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/3-67.jpg

[HenryW]

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/1-72.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/4-51.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/5-42.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/C8_1.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/3-54.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/9-16.jpg

[Prowler1111]

Where you get those textures?

Prowler

[Barfly]

Which model is that... The new simskunkworks?

[Kiwikat]

Henry's screenies appear to be of the Alphasim model. The textures his? I know there were a ton of great textures released for it.

Honestly I think I'll wait for the A2A Accusim F-104. :mix-smi:

[Barfly]

I'll get both. Was hoping for the A2A sim Starfighter for Christmas.

[Bob.sc]

Any chances of developing an Air Refueling Probe option? (Especially for the Tactical Air Command versions).
But...as you are aware...all models from C through S have provisions for the probe (!)
Thanks!!
Bob

[LUCE1]

Any chances of developing an Air Refueling Probe option? (Especially for the Tactical Air Command versions).
But...as you are aware...all models from C through S have provisions for the probe (!)
Thanks!!
Bob
Hi Bob, not exactly, F-104G Map/Consortium and AERITALIA-LOCKEED F-104S models did not have air ref probe. As far i know just F-104C(Model 583-04-05) and F-104D (Model 583-04-06) were equipped with air ref probe.
cheers

[Dag]

Luce,

He said "have provisions for a refuelling probe", not equipped with.
Superb art by HenryW and I am too looking fwd to the release of the A2A offering.

Thanks

[LUCE1]

Luce,

He said "have provisions for a refuelling probe", not equipped with.
Superb art by HenryW and I am too looking fwd to the release of the A2A offering.

Thanks
My English is not enough to understand deeply what "provision" stands for and which is the difference as far sim model is concerned, may be pipes, control valves, panels, etc. but no probe or whatever ?
However all G Map/Consortium and S had neither provision nor equipment for aerial refuel.
cheers

[Prowler1111]

Can somebody be kind enough to direct me to those textures?
Thanks!

Prowler

[Dag]

Okay, have you ever noticed the stencilled lines running from the single point refuelling receptacle to just below the main canopy transparency on the fwd fuselage right hand side? That's the "guide lines" for mounting the probe, should it ever be needed. That is "provisions for". Very true, no G/J/S/or CF ever had them mounted, to my knowledge, but they all had the option availabe.
Take a look at photo close ups of the right hand forward fuselage of aircraft carrying complete maintenance stencils and you'll see where it could be mounted. The AMI had F-104S aircraft with the markings as well.
Grey on grey in this shot but still visible:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Italy---Air/Aeritalia-F-104S-ASA-M/0657268/L/

Thanks

[LUCE1]

Okay, have you ever noticed the stencilled lines running from the single point refuelling receptacle to just below the main canopy transparency on the fwd fuselage right hand side? That's the "guide lines" for mounting the probe, should it ever be needed. That is "provisions for". Very true, no G/J/S/or CF ever had them mounted, to my knowledge, but they all had the option availabe.
Take a look at photo close ups of the right hand forward fuselage of aircraft carrying complete maintenance stencils and you'll see where it could be mounted. The AMI had F-104S aircraft with the markings as well.
Grey on grey in this shot but still visible:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Italy---Air/Aeritalia-F-104S-ASA-M/0657268/L/

Thanks
ohh !
i have watched an ridden that fuselage for almost 18 years and never notice dthat :-)
thanks a lot, weak provision however :-)
/mario

[HenryW]

Can somebody be kind enough to direct me to those textures?
Thanks!

Prowler

Hi! My intention was to inspire those at "Skunkworks" to make a good paintkit to their excellent upcoming starfighter so those in my example can be done. That means the correct models for the textures presented as they are mostly wrong. Also for the folks at "Skunkworls" PLEASE add the small wings on the inner fueltanks!

To Prowler:

As for the textures presented, most of them was uploaded to avsim before the terrible crasch they experienced. Several of them are lost for ever as my back up also ended in "the lake of fire and sulphur". The textures are for the Alphasim model, some can be retrieved at flightsim.com and avsim under the name of Henry William

I Just hope that someone could make those schemes presented in the pics for the upcoming "Skunkworks" f-104. I would if the weeks had more than just 7 days :-(

Please consider those schemes AND models...

Cheers and very good luck for my all time favourite aircraft!

[LUCE1]

Hi! My intention was to inspire those at "Skunkworks" to make a good paintkit to their excellent upcoming starfighter so those in my example can be done. That means the correct models for the textures presented as they are mostly wrong. Also for the folks at "Skunkworls" PLEASE add the small wings on the inner fueltanks!
Cheers and very good luck for my all time favourite aircraft!
Yes, upcoming SIM SKUNK WORKS F-104 S will have a paint kit so good painters can provide other liveries to the community.
However F-104S has some evident differences from G model: two more fences under fuselage to lower CP at high supersonic speed, different nozzles scheme, two more under wing pylons and other minor differences, however we plan to release also a MAP/Consortium F-104G model.
cheers

[Warrant]

Great model. Hope to see some Dutch skins too!
Otherwise i'm a volunteer to make some.

[FlameOut]

Henry, I have [26] of your files...how do I get 'em to you?


Several of them are lost for ever as my back up also ended in "the lake of fire and sulphur".

I'm sure you'll reconize your nomenclature...all for Alphasim's FSX F-104

25823

[Bob.sc]

Hello Mario! Yes, the AMI had mounted an AR Probe on one aircraft but as a Lockheed Representative said to me, "The Italians did not see the need".

Looking forward for the release of this new version! Grazie

[Dag]

Yes, upcoming SIM SKUNK WORKS F-104 S will have a paint kit so good painters can provide other liveries to the community.
However F-104S has some evident differences from G model: two more fences under fuselage to lower CP at high supersonic speed, different nozzles scheme, two more under wing pylons and other minor differences, however we plan to release also a MAP/Consortium F-104G model.
cheers

Sounds really good. A G-model would be great and I'd prefer a C-2 seat in it but not a must. The Germans modified their aircraft with newer engines featuring the F-4E nozzles as well.

Thanks

[LUCE1]

Taking advantage of the hospitality of SOH site to warn those who he had offered themselves as a beta tester that unfortunately their messages and their email addresses were lost with the sudden death of my hd.
Please rewrite it to me at staff@102virtual.org since we plan to begin beta testing phase before the end of January 2010.

TIA
/Mario

http://www.vaafse.org/simskunkworks/signatures/simskunk-developer-sign.png

[LUCE1]

Here you can see some trials of the notorious and feared "pitch-up" behaviour of the "zipper", not exactly what should be but we are close.
You can see the "shacker" warning, the "kicker" that pushes the stick forward and the abruptly overridden of the kicker that kick the plane on the pitch-up until the frame collapses due to high loads.
The chorus of chickens is reserved for those who fall for it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VaftVRETc0

[LUCE1]

Here you can see some trials of the notorious and feared "pitch-up" behaviour of the "zipper", not exactly what should be but we are close.
You can see the "shacker" warning, the "kicker" that pushes the stick forward and the abruptly overridden of the kicker that kick the plane on the pitch-up until the frame collapses due to high loads.
The chorus of chickens is reserved for those who fall for it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VaftVRETc0

[Matt Wynn]

fastest way back down in a -104 is to keep pulling back stick, and looking good, i can hardly wait, have fond memories of this aircraft from my Childhood in Larissa :wiggle:

http://www.916-starfighter.de/916starfighter/cartoons/sure04.jpg

[ZsoltB]

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/1-72.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/4-51.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/5-42.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/C8_1.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/3-54.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/9-16.jpg

Hello,

These paints are available?

Regards,

Zsolt

[HenryW]

Hello,

These paints are available?

Regards,

Zsolt

I don't know, probably some of them are in avsim or flightsim.com but canlt remember. Search for Henry William

[ZsoltB]

I don't know, probably some of them are in avsim or flightsim.com but canlt remember. Search for Henry William

Thank you!
Paintkit available?

Regards,

Zsolt

[ST0RM]

HenryW,

Great repaints of the -104. Especially the QF-104A.

I've searched FS.com and Avsim, but that wasn't posted at either. Can you repost it? Its gorgeous. But I'm a huge drone fan...

Thanks!
Jeff

[grog swiller]

HenryW,

Great repaints of the -104. Especially the QF-104A.

I've searched FS.com and Avsim, but that wasn't posted at either. Can you repost it? Its gorgeous. But I'm a huge drone fan...

Thanks!
Jeff

These skins are for the Alphasim F-104, not the SSW model, unfortunately.