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dandee
December 6th, 2010, 06:33
FS2004 (ACOF) - FS2004 Early Aircraft FS2004 Boeing XB-15 Experimental Long-Range Bomber
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Name: xb15bb89.zip (http://www.flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=152065) Size: 11,369,795 Date: 12-06-2010
http://www.flightsim.com/p/xb15bb89.gif http://www.flightsim.com/wbicons/fcq1.gif http://www.flightsim.com/wbicons/fbq1.gif FS2004 Boeing XB-15 Experimental Long-Range Bomber. Attempt by Boeing to a develop 4-engine bomber with 5000-mile range. Begun in 1934, but first flew in 1937, almost two years after the B-17. Many similar features to early B-17, but much larger with 149-foot span. Intended Allison liquid-cooled engines were unavailable, and P&W Twin Wasps were used instead, leaving XB-15 underpowered, unable to go 200 mph. FSDS3.5 model with two liveries: original metal finish, and experimental two-tone camouflage. Interior doors open. Also can be flown in FSX. By George Diemer.

HorusJ
December 6th, 2010, 07:27
Sweet!!! Have been wanting one of those for some time.:jump:

J

Daube
December 6th, 2010, 07:29
Thanks for the information. I saw the screenshots in the archive and the virtual cockpit seems interesting, I will give this a try :)

Moses03
December 6th, 2010, 09:06
Cool! George does some great stuff.

Flyboy208
December 6th, 2010, 09:10
Thanks for bringing this to our attention ...

Mike :salute:

PRB
December 6th, 2010, 09:20
Awesome. Thanks for the HU.

OleBoy
December 6th, 2010, 09:25
It's not bad really. Could use some different prop textures is all.

Flyboy208
December 6th, 2010, 11:15
I'll take a look at getting some better prop-blur textures later on tonight ...

Mike :wiggle:

TARPSBird
December 6th, 2010, 16:45
Great way to start the week! Thank you George! :salute:

Flyboy208
December 6th, 2010, 19:06
I like this aircraft - nice flying qualities - still working on a better prop-blur, when I find a suitable one I will attach it as a zip on a later date ...

Mike :salute:

Terry
December 7th, 2010, 03:57
I just spent two hours flying this bird. George sure put a lot of work into the interior. All the controls work at the individual stations but I don't have active camera so its a chore to scroll around in there with the mouse wheel. Luckily I found some bunk beds to rest on for a while. This plane is certainly worth fixing the minor prop blur effect. I tried a few that were better but not great. It would be nice to see a couple nice paints for it.

TARPSBird
December 7th, 2010, 10:05
I copied the prop bmp from the Aeroplane Heaven F3F and set the prop animation ratio (prop_anim_ratio=) in the aircraft.cfg file to 0.75, I think it looks pretty good.

middle
December 7th, 2010, 10:26
Tarpsbird, which prop BMP did you replace with the one from the F3F in the xb-15? I see two.
One is "PropBlade_R.bmp" and the other is "PropDisk.bmp". middle

Sid2008
December 7th, 2010, 11:26
Terrific plane. thanks. Now i can load up some beef carcasses in Cochabamba and fly them to Bogota.
Sid

Ferry_vO
December 7th, 2010, 12:28
What a great aircraft, I love the complete interior modelling!

:applause:

TARPSBird
December 7th, 2010, 12:30
Tarpsbird, which prop BMP did you replace with the one from the F3F in the xb-15? I see two. One is "PropBlade_R.bmp" and the other is "PropDisk.bmp". middle
PropDisk.bmp is the one I replaced. PropBlade_R.bmp is the texture for the prop blade with the Hamilton Standard logo decal, and the prop hub. Didn't notice the separate blade texture when I was messing around.

TARPSBird
December 7th, 2010, 13:16
In flight over the Delmarva peninsula, a few minutes out of Langley. This is such a big plane, it's hard to get good screen shots with the whole plane in the pic.

Flyboy208
December 7th, 2010, 18:04
Big Beautiful Boeing! Mike :wiggle:

Terry
December 8th, 2010, 04:56
Small fix, the props turn backward. Need to add "rotation = -1,-1,-1,-1" to prop section.

The freeware "Simtech_Do335_prop_fast.bmp" texture works well. If you use this the "prop_anim_ratio=" must be blocked // or deleted. They don't play nice together.

Z-claudius24
December 8th, 2010, 12:59
Hi,

Ok .. good....
This plane is little challenging for take off or landing.
The flaps have a enormous (too much ??) drag effect.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb186/maur2/snap0687.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb186/maur2/snap0688.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb186/maur2/snap0689.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb186/maur2/snap0690.jpg

The usual test flight video :)
http://simtube.com/video/4344/Test-Boeing-BX-15

Tom Clayton
December 8th, 2010, 15:57
I still haven't had a chance to fly her yet, but from the looks of things, the flaps alone have more surface area than the walls of my house! Lots of drag wouldn't be too much of a shocker.

Z-claudius24
December 8th, 2010, 16:43
Hi,


Lots of drag wouldn't be too much of a shocker. Indeed ...
The problem .. is that is (IMHO) not enough power to counteract this drag :)
Seem's they act more as airbrakes than flaps.
Full flaps and landing gear deployed on approach (AP-ILS) make the plane drop at full power (as I experienced :) )
I see the trim go max up ....
For take off .. no flaps required (as it was for the B-17 .. AFAIK) or better .. forbidden .. if you want at least no terrain overrun .. lol

PeteHam
December 8th, 2010, 18:31
I'm loving this Boeing :jump:

The interior detail is superb and I'm hoping we get a few fictional cargo textures ..... please.

Thanks again for this master piece. :applause:

Pete.

TARPSBird
December 8th, 2010, 21:08
I like the way the plane just floats off the runway, almost more like an airship than an aircraft. Still haven't explored aft of the flight engineer's panel, having too much fun flying out of Langley. :d

hawkeye52
December 12th, 2010, 13:20
TARPSBird, I cannot find PropDisk.bmp

I haveopened the AH F3F and looked in the included texture file as well as every add-on texture file (by Cazzie, et al) and cannot spot PropDisk.bmp anywhere! :kilroy:

- h52

TARPSBird
December 12th, 2010, 21:14
h52,
PropDisk.bmp is not one of the F3F's textures, it's the file name for the XB-15's prop blur texture. You're going to replace it with AHF3F_Prop.bmp, the AH F3F's prop texture, as follows:
1. In each of the XB-15's texture folders rename the XB-15's prop texture to something like "Prop_Disk_orig.bmp". Don't sweat the Windows name-change warning prompt if it comes up.
2. Copy and paste AHF3F_Prop.bmp into the XB-15's two texture folders.
3. Now rename AHF3F_Prop.bmp to PropDisk.bmp just like the XB-15's original. Again ignore the name change warning. You're done. :)
Use the same procedure if you want to try the Do335 texture suggested by Terry.

hawkeye52
December 13th, 2010, 14:24
Thanks, TARPSBird.

- h52

Sunny9850
December 13th, 2010, 15:12
Actually flies quite nice with the original cfg as long as you avoid full flaps as pointed out earlier.
I certainly did not need full flaps either as the airplane handled like a big...make that a very big 172 coming down the chute at 80-85 indicated and perfectly controllable.

Since the original did not get the desired engines and never reached the 200 mph cruise it was supposed to have the speeds achieved by the FS version seem to be right on the money as well.

Stefan

TARPSBird
December 13th, 2010, 20:12
Stefan, I agree, I think the speed range is pretty accurate. Look at the massive wing area, no wonder it just hangs in the sky on approach to an airfield. First time I flew it into Langley AFB last week I thought I was going to stall or come down short of the runway but no problem, she just kinda floated down to the runway.

Tom Clayton
December 16th, 2010, 18:03
Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any data on the engines that were intended for this plane? I'd like to play with putting in the cfg entries to see how she might have flown with the better powerplants.

edmoore235
December 16th, 2010, 18:39
Tom, strange thing, just had the same idea, what if better engines ...... did a change on the cfg with the extra HP from Allison inlines about 1000 to 1100 hp but had no other data to mess about with. Any ideas to help Tom and others out here???? Thanks in advance,

Ed

PeteHam
December 16th, 2010, 19:52
Because anything is possible in the sim world , I swapped the engines for 4 P&W R2800's out of the DC-6 , changed the engine cfg entries and she's a whole new bird.

Pete.

Tom Clayton
December 17th, 2010, 06:15
The 2800's are a good idea. I'll see if I have a DC-6 on my storage drive - otherwise I'll steal the entries from the Howard.