Conceptual Beech Twin Delta-Wing

[Lionheart]

Hey guys,

I was parusing the web for textures for a project and stumbled upon a pic of a Beech twin. The pic appeared to give you teh feeling that the bird was a delta wing. So I downloaded it, ran it through Photoshop and cropped out the tail, moved the winglets around for better 'Perspective', and Voila.... One prototype delta-wing Beech Baron. I guess its not a 'Baron' anymore.. Have to give it a new class of royalty name... Count?

Should probably have a little upside down 'rudder-ette' under that shortend tail, like the Starship has.

:d

[Blackbird686]

Uh... I don't know just how stable that thing would be in a croswind, but it looks like it's going 900 MPH just sitting there.

BB686:USA-flag:

[kurt190]

That looks suicidal.

How about a Starship? If ever there is an under modelled Beech its that amazing plane.

kurt

[Lionheart]

Blackbird,

Yeah, it would be really unstable, lol. Sure looked cool though when I saw that in the photo. The shading was just right. In my mind, I saw the root of the main wing stretching from near the tail to the spar in the front, so a ton of wing area. But with no main rudder, that would be a bit of a handfull to fly, if it could.

Kurt,

The Starship is being modelled by a gentleman presently over at FreeFlightDesign.com. Should be neat when its done. There is also a payware that came out a couple of years ago. Cant remember who did it. I think its at Abacus.

[RLPENDER]

Ok let's see.Shorter wings,jet engines,vertical takeoff......wow...my type of craft!!:ernae:

[Railrunner130]

I used to work for a Beech dealer. We had one customer with a Starship. By that time, Beech had decided to quit supporting it and buy the remaining airframes back. Man, it was a cool airplane, when parts could be found for it.

[jordonj]

Hey Lionheart...why not do a Dyke Delta?

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/173522.html

[Lionheart]

Hey Lionheart...why not do a Dyke Delta?

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/173522.html


Oh man.. I'd love too.. Im doing the Piper Pacer PA20 tail dragger, a Fanliner, the Epic Victory VLJ, redoing the Kodiak and Trinidad for FSX... If I could squeeze in the Delta, I would! Its a beautiful bird. (Its on the front of the newest edition of EAA magazine).

[Flyboy208]

How about a Piper Aztec E ? Dreaming of course.:d

Mike :wavey:

[Willy]

Have to admit that a decent Beech Starship could get me to burn more kerosine.

[Lionheart]

Have to admit that a decent Beech Starship could get me to burn more kerosine.


LOLOL....! :costumes:

This is a rare (very rare) moment, that Willy would say he would fly something that is powered by 'garage heaters' that run on Kero.

Never thought I would see the day.... :d

[Tom Clayton]

Hey Lionheart...why not do a Dyke Delta?

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/173522.html


Same plane here. Keep your eye on the gear at about 1:04-1:08 - that has to be the fastest retraction I've ever seen!

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[bull494]

Always have wanted a decent starship...this one I shot at the Evergreen museum in McMinnville, Oregon.

[Silver Fox]

Bill, a very cool looking bird indeed!

To answer your original question... the peerage titles in England (by order of precedence) are: dukes, marquesses (marquis), earls, viscounts, and barons. There is one title not listed, but ranking above all others... Sovereign (HRH The Queen).

My choice for the bird would Beechcraft Sovereign.

[Felixthreeone]

Oh man.. I'd love too.. Im doing the Piper Pacer PA20 tail dragger, a Fanliner, the Epic Victory VLJ, redoing the Kodiak and Trinidad for FSX... If I could squeeze in the Delta, I would! Its a beautiful bird. (Its on the front of the newest edition of EAA magazine).
.....Epic Victory VLJ!!!!??!! Bill you are my hero. The VLJ's have been lacking in availability for fs......save for the 'CLS Bizjet' eclipse 500...wasted my money on that one.....you have a definite sale here! :jump:

[Firebar]

(Its on the front of the newest edition of EAA magazine).

Stop spoiling it :icon_lol:

It won't arrive here for another few days..... :banghead:

Along with the LAA mag..... :mixedsmi:

[Railrunner130]

Rutan designed a predecessor to the Veri/Long E-Z that was called the Vari-Viggen that was pretty neat. I'd rather have a new Starship though! (Please :ernae: ) (If anyone is taking requests.)

[PilatusTurbo]

Starship... http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m252/RiverIsMyGoddess/icons/smiley_coffee.gif (http://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m252/RiverIsMyGoddess/icons/?action=view&current=smiley_coffee.gif) Need a Starship... Would not be able to stop flying it for weeks. http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh105/AngelBeebe/coffeescreen.gif (http://s254.photobucket.com/albums/hh105/AngelBeebe/?action=view&current=coffeescreen.gif)

[wombat666]

Hey Lionheart...why not do a Dyke Delta?

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/173522.html

A Dyke Delta?
Political Incorrectness indeed!!!!
:d

[Lionheart]

For you Starship enthusiasts....


http://rps3.com/Pages/Starship.htm



Bill

[Lionheart]

You know, one of the main issues with the Starship was the turboprops. The intense noise caused from the dual speeds of airflow coming into the prop disc caused a harmonic vibration or algorythym or something that created a high pitched scream from the blades.

Why not refit the birds with small turbines? Propless.... (I know Willy, I know). But the birds would have been much quieter then and you wouldnt have had to deal with the prop issues....


I always wondered that..


Bill

[Brian_Gladden]

How about a Piper Aztec E ? Dreaming of course.:d

Mike :wavey:

Someone want to adopt my uncompleted one????


Brian

[Lionheart]

Hey Brian,

Nice work on it so far. Why dont you finish it?



Bill

[jordonj]

A Dyke Delta?
Political Incorrectness indeed!!!!

Well, when I'm working on cabling, can I ask for a pair of Dyke side cutters?

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/3259/180pxsidecuttersjm1.jpg

[GT182]

Oh yeah, a Starship for FSX would be great. :applause:

[Railrunner130]

A jet powered Starship. That would really be sweeeet!

When I think of the Starship, I often wonder how successful it would've been had Beech applied the changes Rutan wanted to make. If they'd taken the time to do the airplane Rutan wanted, would it have been a success?

The Avanti took a long time to make it's way, but in today's economy, (and focus on fuel efficiency) there is something like a 180 airplane backlog at the factory. Makes you wonder....

[Brian_Gladden]

Hey Brian,

Nice work on it so far. Why dont you finish it?



Bill

I'm so far behind the curve when it comes to Aircraft design it isn't funny. I'm not even up to current FS9 standards let alone FSX. And I've lost quite a bit of the interest I used to have in Aircraft design.

I burned myself out a couple of years ago cranking out six airplanes in four months working for Abacus keeping food on the table when I was out of work... I've only done one wholly from scratch plane since then (Stinson 108) The rest were rebuilds of older planes I had already made as freeware (Super Pacer) and an abacus rebuild (Airvan)

I haven't even fired up FSDS in nearly six months.

I Also have a partially done King Air C-90 and Challenger 604. If anyone want's to take em on.. let me know.

Brian

[Lionheart]

I'm so far behind the curve when it comes to Aircraft design it isn't funny. I'm not even up to current FS9 standards let alone FSX. And I've lost quite a bit of the interest I used to have in Aircraft design.

I burned myself out a couple of years ago cranking out six airplanes in four months working for Abacus keeping food on the table when I was out of work... I've only done one wholly from scratch plane since then (Stinson 108) The rest were rebuilds of older planes I had already made as freeware (Super Pacer) and an abacus rebuild (Airvan)

I haven't even fired up FSDS in nearly six months.

I Also have a partially done King Air C-90 and Challenger 604. If anyone want's to take em on.. let me know.

Brian


Man, Im sorry to hear that Brian.

Yep, have to pace yourself or you will get burned out. Happens with me. Luckily I do alot of 'all' of it, so I can get into graphics if I am burning out on polygons, or get into sounds when the airfiles arent behaving.. Just wish I was making them much faster.

That C90 cabin looks great. The geometry looks right on. Nice work around the windows. I moved over to Gmax just for the window cutting. Glad I did.. It has a ton of tools in there.