Wanted: Vulcan B.1\B.1A

[Hooky722]

Hi All

Does anyone have or know the location of an fs9 compatible vulcan B.1 I know Flightcraft did one for fs2002 a few years back but I cant find head nor tail of it, also they apparently did a Freeware AI tanker if memory serves which I wouldn't mind trying out. Any Ideas anyone???


Regards

Hooky:salute:

[OBIO]

I do believe that Alphasim did a Vulcan, JustFlight has one I do believe. I had a freeware Vulcan I used in CFS2, believe it was by Alphasim, can't find it..but looking for it.

OBIO

[nazca_steve]

Paul Foster might have done a B.1, but don't quote me on it. I know he did a nice range of B.2s, including some 'early fit' versions, if that helps.

[johnr]

I think the old Alphasim Vulcan B1 can be found amongst this huge download of old Alphasim airframe http://www.easyfly.co.nz/Freeware/Scenery/x_AlphaSim_really_old_freeware.zip The link to the old Flightcraft-simulations tanker is now sadly dead. But I have got a copy of it somewhere, drop me a line (it was a free download).

As for the really early Vulcan's like the prototypes VX770 and VX777, I'm pretty sure that no ones has built one :-(

Do a search on Flightsim for Vulcan B1 or avb1.zip and the old AS B1 should also come up, it's not a great model by today's standard I warn you now.

Kind regards

JR

[Naismith]

PSS did a nice one, though not sure hich model, and if it is even still available, I think they went tits-up

[johnr]

It's a B2 and available under the justflight banner

http://www.justflight.com/product.asp?pid=308

regards

JR

[OBIO]

The only freeware Alphasim Vulcan I could find was on Flightsim.com....it is a FS98/CFS2/FS2000 model. Definitely not something that would be of any real use in FS9.

Your thread did remind me of the Alphasim Vickers Valiant...haven't flown that bird in a while. A bit long in the tooth and not up to par with today's stuff...but still a decent freeware plane...just needs some updating, some panel work and some new skins. I found a couple skins for the plane...can't remember where or by who.

OBIO

[nazca_steve]

Lol, probably me; I did some for the Alphasim one a few years ago, they should still be on Classic British Files. Agreed on the model, not bad at all, just a little dated.

[Hooky722]

Thanks for the suggestions guys yeah the avb1 file seems to have a problem with its MDL file I have that one on an old cold war airpower disc and It looks like the Flightcraft simulations pack has long since gone the way of the dodo However this may be a good opportunity to teach myself how to use Gmax and make one :icon_eek: could be interesting!!

Heres an archive news report of the pack i was looking for: http://www.flightsim.com/main/notams02/vfrs1209.htm

thanks again everybody further news welcome

Hooky :salute:

[UKMIL]

if you are serious about learning, I have a base Gmax model you can start with

[Terry]

I have found that Mr. Ito's works just fine for its age. Also if you don't have it get the retro Waddington which comes with an AI Vulcan and 20 paints.

FS2002 - FS2002 Aircraft FS2002/FS2004 AVRO Vulcan B.Mk2 /B.Mk2A
[ Download (http://www.flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=57278) | View (http://www.flightsim.com/zview.php?cm=list&fid=57278) ]
Name: vulcanb2.zip (http://www.flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=57278) Size: 3,359,089 Date: 09-01-2004 Downloads: 9,135
http://www.flightsim.com/j/vulcanb22.gif http://www.flightsim.com/j/vulcanb2.gif FS2002/FS2004 AVRO Vulcan B.Mk2 /B.Mk2A. The origin of the Avro Vulcan can be traced back to the response of Roy Chadwick, AVRO's chief designer, to the receipt of Specification B35/46. This was the RAF's requirement for a four jet nuclear bomber and was initiated due to what became known as the 'Cold War'. The Vulcan B.Mk2 entered service with the RAF in the 1960's and had a number of refinements over the B.Mk1, notably Series 201 Olympus engines producing an additional 5000 lb st, along with an extended tail containing electronic countermeasures. This was the machine which would carry the Blue Steel nuclear missile. During the Cold War years, the Vulcan was allocated the role of a high level, stand-off attack bomber and was painted in pure white to reflect nuclear 'flash'. From the 1960's onward, as Soviet air defences improved, the attack profile was changed to low-level penetration and the more familiar camouflage markings were adopted. Three model and four paint examples are included in this file. (B.Mk2 white paint with Blue Steel nuclear missile / B.Mk2A overall dark camouflage and sand camoufage paint without option / B.Mk2A bright camouflage paint with AGM-45 missile). By Kazunori Ito (http://www.flightsim.com/main/review/ito/ito2.htm).


FS2004 (ACOF) - FS2004 Scenery FS2004 Retro Scenery of RAF Waddington
[ Download (http://www.flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=129957) | View (http://www.flightsim.com/zview.php?cm=list&fid=129957) ]
Name: wad_vf92.zip (http://www.flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=129957) Size: 13,070,564 Date: 12-19-2008 Downloads: 1,092
http://www.flightsim.com/n/wad_vf92.gif FS2004 Retro Scenery of RAF Waddington, UK, set in the Vulcan period, around 1977. Detailed Gmax scenery and photo-tiles made with kind permission of Just Flight (http://www.fspilotshop.com/index.php?manufacturers_id=71&ref=269). Options are included to maintain frame rate for users with lower end PCs. Includes an AI package of 20 individually numbered Vulcans in 4 Squadrons. By John Young and team at UKMIL. Modern day Waddington is also available in a separate download (egxw_9_1.zip (http://www.flightsim.com/file.php?cm=SEARCH1&fsec=0&fname=egxw_9_1.zip)).

[Hooky722]

I have found that Mr. Ito's works just fine for its age. Also if you don't have it get the retro Waddington which comes with an AI Vulcan and 20 paints.

FS2002 - FS2002 Aircraft FS2002/FS2004 AVRO Vulcan B.Mk2 /B.Mk2A
[ Download (http://www.flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=57278) | View (http://www.flightsim.com/zview.php?cm=list&fid=57278) ]
Name: vulcanb2.zip (http://www.flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=57278) Size: 3,359,089 Date: 09-01-2004 Downloads: 9,135
http://www.flightsim.com/j/vulcanb22.gif http://www.flightsim.com/j/vulcanb2.gif FS2002/FS2004 AVRO Vulcan B.Mk2 /B.Mk2A. The origin of the Avro Vulcan can be traced back to the response of Roy Chadwick, AVRO's chief designer, to the receipt of Specification B35/46. This was the RAF's requirement for a four jet nuclear bomber and was initiated due to what became known as the 'Cold War'. The Vulcan B.Mk2 entered service with the RAF in the 1960's and had a number of refinements over the B.Mk1, notably Series 201 Olympus engines producing an additional 5000 lb st, along with an extended tail containing electronic countermeasures. This was the machine which would carry the Blue Steel nuclear missile. During the Cold War years, the Vulcan was allocated the role of a high level, stand-off attack bomber and was painted in pure white to reflect nuclear 'flash'. From the 1960's onward, as Soviet air defences improved, the attack profile was changed to low-level penetration and the more familiar camouflage markings were adopted. Three model and four paint examples are included in this file. (B.Mk2 white paint with Blue Steel nuclear missile / B.Mk2A overall dark camouflage and sand camoufage paint without option / B.Mk2A bright camouflage paint with AGM-45 missile). By Kazunori Ito (http://www.flightsim.com/main/review/ito/ito2.htm).


FS2004 (ACOF) - FS2004 Scenery FS2004 Retro Scenery of RAF Waddington
[ Download (http://www.flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=129957) | View (http://www.flightsim.com/zview.php?cm=list&fid=129957) ]
Name: wad_vf92.zip (http://www.flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=129957) Size: 13,070,564 Date: 12-19-2008 Downloads: 1,092
http://www.flightsim.com/n/wad_vf92.gif FS2004 Retro Scenery of RAF Waddington, UK, set in the Vulcan period, around 1977. Detailed Gmax scenery and photo-tiles made with kind permission of Just Flight (http://www.fspilotshop.com/index.php?manufacturers_id=71&ref=269). Options are included to maintain frame rate for users with lower end PCs. Includes an AI package of 20 individually numbered Vulcans in 4 Squadrons. By John Young and team at UKMIL. Modern day Waddington is also available in a separate download (egxw_9_1.zip (http://www.flightsim.com/file.php?cm=SEARCH1&fsec=0&fname=egxw_9_1.zip)).


thats great terry thanks for that I actually have the Payware just flight vulcan B.2 already but its the earlier B.1\ B.1A version I'm after since I have both the earlier versions of the Victor and Valiant.

The 70's Waddington I've had for a while Best scenery pack I've got in my opinion was tweaking the AI textures only yesterday as it happens so the camo fits a bit better but thanks for the suggestions anyway

Regards

Hooky:salute:

[Hooky722]

if you are serious about learning, I have a base Gmax model you can start with

Actually that would be really helpful thank you Like I Said I'm a complete newbie but I've been looking for an excuse to learn for a while and cant think of a better one than this do you want me to drop you a PM with email?

Hooky:salute:

[UKMIL]

the AI vulcan in that pack was made by me using this gmax source. I would be happy to supply it and give you some help with gmax, just send me a pm

[nazca_steve]

Hooky, I would seriously consider Paul Foster's freeware B.2 pack if you have time. For some reason it gets slept on completely, which is a real shame. There are about 8 models, all with different payloads and some nice animations on it. No VC, but then I am not sure Kaz Ito's had one either. Don't get me wrong, Kaz's is nice, but I think Paul's was a tighter exterior model. You might well have to tinker with the FDE though.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a218/nazca_steve/Vulcan/grab_vulcan_025.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a218/nazca_steve/Vulcan/grab_vulcan_360bluesteel_01.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a218/nazca_steve/Vulcan/grab_vulcan_027.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a218/nazca_steve/Vulcan/grab_XL443_048.jpg

[aeromed202]

If anyone wants I can upload my changes to Ito's Vulcan flight dynamics. After watching airshow vids I made some adjustments so it will fly more like what I saw. I don't believe this aircraft had flaps so I removed that section as well.

[UKMIL]

here is the source you will get to play with

[Hooky722]

here is the source you will get to play with

And here's the reference book I shall be using lol;)23005

[Hooky722]

Discovered this over at cbfs forums:http://www.cbfsim.org/cb-bb/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=21853 looks like my prayers have been answered. A WIP version is available for FS2004 and FSX and the FSX Download comes complete with an FSDS model file for anybody who wants to have a go at refining it themselves. Its pretty basic atm but he's improving it bit by bit Now I'm excited. :jump: also forgive my ignorance but does anybody know if its possible to import FSDS files into Gmax or would that be like trying to use a rock as a telephone ???

Hooky

[SpitXIV]

I found this one at Flightsim

FS2002/FS2004 Avro Vulcan B Mk.2 v.01. Full pack of nine models, featuring Vulcans from 60s,70s and 80s including Skybolt, Blue Steel and Black Buck versions. Includes a custom panel. Model features include animated doors, bomb bay doors and airbrakes. By Paul Foster.



http://flightsim.com/file.php?cm=INDEXCALL&sPos=30



(http://flightsim.com/file.php?cm=INDEXCALL&sPos=30)

[nazca_steve]

Good one Spit, finally someone else taking notice of Paul's excellent Vulcan series! I posted some screens of them on the previous page. Not to knock Kaz Ito's model at all, it is very nice, but Paul's are well worth the look in for anyone looking for a nice freeware Vulcan. The only thing that does need work is the FDE which would a nice project for one of us on here to take on.

[Hooky722]

Good one Spit, finally someone else taking notice of Paul's excellent Vulcan series! I posted some screens of them on the previous page. Not to knock Kaz Ito's model at all, it is very nice, but Paul's are well worth the look in for anyone looking for a nice freeware Vulcan. The only thing that does need work is the FDE which would a nice project for one of us on here to take on.

I have got Pauls B.2 series and agree its a great freeware package one of the best renditions of the B.2 I've seen done freeware. since then I've bought the PSS/JF Vulcan pack and that's equally great But I've been after a b.1 for some time now and its something that has been overlooked in all the Vulcan packs available either freeware or payware, and to a point, I can kind of see why since the differences were not limited to appearance. the control surfaces, intake shape and undercarriage were all changed for the B.2. Not to mention the differences in handling and flight characteristics so it does require a scratch built model.

[johnr]

Both the prototypes and the B1s were in the payware Flightcraftsimulations pack, which is sadly no longer available.

http://www.flightsim.com/main/notams02/fcs1019.htm

Kind regards

John

[nazca_steve]

Agreed, the B.1 is overlooked in the FS world, as are in many ways, other Mark 1 types. On the flipside, the one-off Valiant B.2 is overlooked as well, something I'd like to see done for FS one day. V bombers are just plain brilliant, you can never have enough variants! Perhaps one of the reasons I like Paul Foster's work so much - he is a man after my own heart with his efforts to produce variants and iterations.

[AndyG43]

On the flipside, the one-off Valiant B.2 is overlooked as well, something I'd like to see done for FS one day.

Alphasim did it, back in the days of FS2002. It will work in FS2004, but there are some fairly serious issues (like wheels, but no gear), so it looks ok flying but ..... different..... on the ground.

[johnr]

On the flipside, the one-off Valiant B.2 is overlooked as well, something I'd like to see done for FS one day.

There's always the old Alphasim FS8/CFS2 model, it flies ok in FS9 (slight problem with the door) I seem to remember it had all its wheels etc ALPHA_Vickers_Valiant_B2_FS02_CFS2.zip

(http://www.easyfly.co.nz/Freeware/British/ALPHA_Vickers_Valiant_B2_FS02_CFS2.zip)Kind regards

John

4047640475 awful distorted screenshots, but you get the idea!

[nazca_steve]

Alphasim did it, back in the days of FS2002. It will work in FS2004, but there are some fairly serious issues (like wheels, but no gear), so it looks ok flying but ..... different..... on the ground.

Yep, I remember that one, all due respect to Alpha, but the gear problems in FS2004 makes me discount it from being a true contender. The B.2 looked damn good in real life - the Black Bomber as she was known. Have to say I love anything in gloss black.

That old model though does not look that bad, a nice new coat of paint would do her some good though.

[johnr]

but the gear problems in FS2004 makes me discount it from being a true contender. That old model though does not look that bad, a nice new coat of paint would do her some good though.

I think the gear's ok as far as I can see, ie it's there and it works (as do the doors and bomb bay)

Kind regards

John