The Hunters....Section 8 on-station

[bearcat241]

Lookin' for trouble...finally got the pilot sorted out :icon_lol:...and kept his anima too!

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[EMatheson]

How are the FPS in CFS2? And I wonder what the 2D and VC look like with all those gauges replaced... even more, I'd like to see how the FD changed with conversion... many of the dynamic characteristics were embedded in the gauges!

[bearcat241]

Well, i confess that this one is probably gonna be a frame hog for medium and low end machines. My frames are btwn 30-45 with a full load of 8 birds in formations. And i aliased all sound and panels to one location to cut down on graphics and sound loading. This is mainly a player aircraft...you can find other FPS lightweights in CFS2 Sabres these days for your AI. Maybe later i'll see if Jan can help me arrange something in a lighter multi-LOD version with scasm.

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Would this be a good time to press that trigger FS9 fans? :icon_twi:

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[Dirtman]

:costumes: :costumes: :costumes: :costumes: :costumes: :costumes: :costumes: :costumes: :costumes::costumes:

[Ettico]

If you don't press the trigger and blow it apart you're gonna collide with it. Either way, it looks like you're gonna eat some aluminum.:d

BTW, that sabre sure is purty.

[bearcat241]

....BTW, that sabre sure is purty.

And comin' soon to a sim near YOU!...BTW i got about 600 yards of separation in that shot. You know how CFS2 external views have a quirky depth perception. What's in your 2D or 3D gunsight at 600 yards looks much closer in external viewing :d

[Eoraptor1]

LOVE that first screenshot, Bearcat. That one's going on my desktop.

JAMES

[bearcat241]

The finish...ooops!...two more on my six.... gotta go!

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[Jagdflieger]

Whoo Hoo!

The Fox 4 F-86 is still on AI flight ops though. No rest for the weary.

Oh yeah, the first screen shot is now my background screen for a few days.

[Wulf190]

is the VC totally intact?

[bearcat241]

is the VC totally intact?

The only thing left out is the stick right now...i'm still debating it :kilroy:


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[bearcat241]

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[bearcat241]

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[bearcat241]

OK last call...this is just too much fun! :jump:

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VC view

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And as ya'll can see for yourselves, she handles extremely well in a turnin' fight, as long as you remember you have speedbrakes as well as a throttle....:icon_lol:

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[Pips]

Every time I see screenies of the Sabre I'm totally blown away by the fantastic detail! Superb job. :ernae: Can't wait for the conversion to CFS2 to be completed.

P-51 and F-86 - North American sure knew how to build war winning fighters.

By the by that Mig looks mighty good too Bearcat, where did you find that?

[bearcat241]

Can't remember exactly how or when i got it Pips, but its a match for the Fox Four AI Mig-15 model. Take the *.pdf extension off the end and unzip to one of your FF Migs.

[miamieagle]

Bear, all your Screen shots look great!

Thank you and when are you uploading them?:jump:

[Ravenna]

And comin' soon to a sim near YOU!...BTW i got about 600 yards of separation in that shot. You know how CFS2 external views have a quirky depth perception. What's in your 2D or 3D gunsight at 600 yards looks much closer in external viewing :d
Don't I know it! It can be disconcerting when you are low on gas and headed for home.:costumes:
Great looking convert BC.

[bretnutz]

WOW !!!!!!!!!!!

I am just blowen away....

[Hern07]

A'int bad at all. Hate to say anything negative about a fellow Sim, but CFS3 could never match those. :applause::applause::applause:

[Skywolf]

So far its just out for FS9 though....

[bearcat241]

So far its just out for FS9 though....

Yup...With Javis's approval to make it available in CFS2...so what's your point?:sniper:

......... :cool: .........

[ndicki]

A'int bad at all. Hate to say anything negative about a fellow Sim, but CFS3 could never match those. :applause::applause::applause:

Far from convinced... Have you looked at some of Greg Law's aircraft with Bravo/4's skins and cockpit textures?

But they are beautiful, really!

All it needs now is a Flying Cheetah skin*... We can't give the Yanks credit for everything! :jump:

* No.2 Sqn South African Air Force, 18 FBW, Korea.

[dvslats]

That has to be the best looking F-86 I have ever seen flying in CFS2! Beautiful job Bc on the transformation. :applause:

[gavinc]

Hey BC
Looking v-good
Meant to ask you - how did you get all those Sabres lined up like that for the shot in your first post?

Gavin

[DauntlessDriver546]

AWESTRUCK! Even more than the victory Ohio State just gave Michigan!! 42-7 WOOT!

Anyway... I can't wait for the conversion! :jump:

[bearcat241]

Thanks Gavin....

For the tight, high right echelon formation, you first have to pick the aircraft you want to display. In this case i chose 5 skins in five different a/c folders. Using MDLC, you reduce the collision bubbles of all to '5' or '6' or they won't play nice with each other :icon_lol:. Then you create a test mission and pick your preselected lead ship as the player a/c and put five in the formation. You only need 2 waypoints - Turn (1st wypnt ) and Land Anywhere (2nd wypnt). Set altitude and speed the same for both waypoints. Save the mission, test flight or just exit MB.

Open the mis file in notepad and edit the units, formation.0 and unit_types as follows:

[mission]
version=2.0
title=%title_string%
summary=
objective=
intelligence=
mission_type=8
allegiance=3
total_goals=1
player_aircraft=3894 <<--player....leave unchanged
player_aircraft_name=%player_aircraft_name_string%
date=1/6/1951
time=12:00

[unit.0]
id=9078
type_id=3894 <<--player....leave unchanged
name=%name_string.0%
is_player_aircraft=1
allegiance=3
skill=3
payload=0

[unit.1]
id=9079
type_id=3895
name=%name_string.1%
allegiance=3
skill=3
payload=0

[unit.2]
id=9080
type_id=3896
name=%name_string.2%
allegiance=3
skill=3
payload=0

[unit.3]
id=9081
type_id=3897
name=%name_string.3%
allegiance=3
skill=3
payload=0

[unit.4]
id=9082
type_id=3898
name=%name_string.4%
allegiance=3
skill=3
payload=0

[formation.0]
id=6000
type=air
waypoint_path_id=5000
directive=8
players_formation=1
formation_type=3
points=2
unit_id_position.0=9078,0,0.0,0.0,0.0 <<--player....leave unchanged
unit_id_position.1=9079,0,40.0,-10.0,05.0 [40 right, 10 behind, 5 higher]
unit_id_position.2=9080,0,80.0,-20.0,10.0 [80 right, 20 behind, 10 higher]
unit_id_position.3=9081,0,120.0,-30.0,15.0 [120 right, 30 behind, 15 higher]
unit_id_position.4=9082,0,160.0,-40.0,20.0 [160 right, 40 behind, 20 higher]

[waypoint_path.0]
id=5000
waypoint.0=1,0,N35* 26.18',E127* 51.96',+8000,,,,370,,0,0,1
waypoint.1=4096,0,N40* 43.74',E127* 51.90',+8500,,,,370,,0,0,1

[unit_type.0]
type_id=3894 <<---player....leave unchanged
unit_family=1
name=SF8_F-86EF_mig-mad

[unit_type.1]
type_id=3895
unit_family=1
name=SF8_F-86EF_King

[unit_type.2]
type_id=3896
unit_family=1
name=SF8_F-86EF_risnerFU-824

[unit_type.3]
type_id=3897
unit_family=1
name=SF8_F-86EF_4kings

[unit_type.4]
type_id=3898
unit_family=1
name=SF8_F-86EF_hutch

[strings]
"title_string"=**Section 8 v2**
"player_aircraft_name_string"=F-86F-30 "MiG Mad Marine" Maj. John Glenn, Jr.(USMC) 25th FIS/ 51st FIW <<---player....leave unchanged

"name_string.0"=Bogey
"name_string.1"=Bogey-1
"name_string.2"=Bogey-2
"name_string.3"=Bogey-3
"name_string.4"=Bogey-4

[gavinc]

Thanks Gavin....

For the tight, high right echelon formation, you first have to pick the aircraft you want to display. In this case i chose 5 skins in five different a/c folders. Using MDLC, you reduce the collision bubbles of all to '5' or '6' or they won't play nice with each other :icon_lol:. Then you create a test mission and pick your preselected lead ship as the player a/c and put five in the formation. You only need 2 waypoints - Turn (1st wypnt ) and Land Anywhere (2nd wypnt). Set altitude and speed the same for both waypoints. Save the mission, test flight or just exit MB.


Cunning - I was about to accuse you of illicit photoshopping - I should have known better
Gavin

[Devildog73]

Looks like you might have fought a dog or two, or three.....:ernae:

[bearcat241]

Looks like you might have fought a dog or two, or three.....:ernae:

I lost count! :costumes:

QC...solo player...ace enemies...respawning flights of 3 on 1...unlimited ammo. Those AI Migs fly like tricky AI Zero's below 320 kts...it helps to be quick on the speedbrakes :icon_lol:.

[Ravenna]

BC,
How do I change the size of the collision bubble using MDLC? Up until now I've only used MDLC to convert mdls and to add/ reduce shine.

cheers,
Mike

[bearcat241]

Using Mk_mdlc, this is the dialog box setup:

[Ravenna]

Using Mk_mdlc, this is the dialog box setup:
As my old history teacher used to say, "Be careful of selective vision."
Thanks for the fresh eyeballs BC!
:ernae:

[bearcat241]

Hey fellas,

File uploaded...get some! :d



PS---Javis is woking on modifed droptanks for the conversion. I'll upload as soon as the package is ready. Meanwhile TR has permitted the use of his F4 Sabre tanks...thanks TR

[Ravenna]

Great stuff. Thanks BC!!:ernae:

[Jagdflieger]

Message received Bearcat and action taken.

A slight glitch guys; but, to use the FS 9 term of "soon" is appropriate.

[bearcat241]

Redo complete :redf:, file uploaded...again :kilroy:

[dvslats]

Ready in the download page....:jump: Just got me one.

[Jaxon]

Pic No 4 in your 4:24h post:
I have never seen a polished surface like this in CFS2 before.


Very nice looking!

[bearcat241]

Its actually a credit to the original painters Jax...the FS9-styled, photo real textures seem to fake a polish very well even in CFS2. These alpha textures compliment FS9's respect for reflectivity. Lacking model reflection in CFS2, all i did was shine the mdl up with MDLC and convert the originals from DXT3 alpha to DXT1 to kill the transparencies caused by the mdl's alpha. I was pleasantly surprised as well with the results.

[bearcat241]

Sorry for the inconvenience...another oversight with the final packaging. The model won't show in the selection window unless you fix the aircraft.cfg header.

Open the aircraft.cfg and just delete the word "patricia" only from the texture line in the header:

[fltsim.0]
title=SF8_F-86E-10 "Patricia II" -- Joe Romack, 335th FIS/ 4th FIW
sim=f86ef
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=patricia -------------to--------------> texture=
kb_checklists=f86ef_check
kb_reference=f86ef_ref
description= "SECTIONF8 F-86E/F Sabre for FS2004\n\nF-86E-10-NA 51-2834 "Patricia II", 335th FIS/ 4th FIW, flown by 'Jolting' Joe Romack

[Ravenna]

Now how many times have I made that mistake?!:costumes:

[DauntlessDriver546]

YOU JUST MADE MY WHOLE WEEKEND!!! THIS IS SOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH BETTER THAN THE INLAWS! :costumes::costumes::costumes:

:mixedsmi: She gets wrung out on the sim tomorrow night... if I can still fit in this computer chair by then...:costumes:

[bearcat241]

Have fun DD!...

Dvslats pointed out another error: the droptanks in the dp aren't set to the standard Fox Four tanks 'as advertised', but rather to a set of custom repainted Fox4 tanks i re-created to match the hue and color of the default photoreal textures on this model. I purposely chose not to upload the modded tank with this package and used the original instead, and i thought i had modified the dp back to the original Fox4 tank accordingly. Apparently not....

So, here's the fix:

[PAYLOAD.1]
; Payload = Guns Only Long Range
mount.0=wep_sf8sabre_droptank, 1, 1
mount.1=wep_sf8sabre_droptank, 1, -1

CHANGE TO:

[PAYLOAD.1]
; Payload = Guns Only Long Range
mount.0=f86e_droptank, 1, 1
mount.1=f86e_droptank, 1, -1

[bearcat241]

One more note:

Don't engage the autopilot above 350kts or you'll just get a lot of longitudinal oscillation. Any speed below 350kts is cool.....

[JP127]

Hi BC.

Thanks for the converted model of the Sabre. Just got done flying it. Fantastic work on the conversion.

Jeff

[bearcat241]

Here's a mod for the EXTRA exhaust effects in the dp:

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[EXTRA.0]
location=0,0.22,-6.98
effect=fx_SF86_TurboSmokeHeat2 --------->>>> was fx_SF86_TurboSmokeHeat2.fx

[EXTRA.1]
location=0,0.21,-6
effect=fx_phantomsmoke

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Effects files attached below...remove the *.txt extension and unzip to your main EFFECTS folder

[dvslats]

A very large thanks to Jan Visser, Hansjoerg Naegele, Rob Young, Cliff Presley, and the basements Bearcat241 to get this Sabre to look and fly so sweet in CFS2. :ernae: Spent the last couple of hours running this bird all over the virtual sky. Bc obviously spent some major time getting this package together with great results. And it's FREE...Thanks sometimes seems not enough. Made my weekend also. :jump:

[bearcat241]

My pleasure DV....i can't get enough of her either :ernae:...she's just as beautiful on the ground as she is in the air.

[Ravenna]

Now if only I could get her to behave on taxi and takeoff! What am I doing wrong?!
For those who have Kelticheart's fx for the Fox Four Sabre the following might be useful:
In AIRCRAFT.cfg:
[LIGHTS]
panel=0.0, -0.5, -1.8, fx_exh_Fox4_Sabre_KH

Add to PANEL.cfg: under window 00

gauge72=DAP_ExhaustFX!ExhaustFX, 0,0,10,10,80


I'm not sure where I picked up Kelti's glowing effect (it doesn't appear to be in his dowloads section) but it has come in handy on several occasions. Appart from a little "bleed" it fits here as well.

[bearcat241]

:icon_lol: Its only a hot rod in the air Mike...you have to take it slow with the ground taxi. Easy turns from tarmac to runway, 5-7 mph. The Sabre has a narrow wheel base, not much wider than a Spitfire and a lot more suspension travel in the struts. So if you take the corners too fast it will tip over on a front quarter. Set your park brakes, lower full flaps, power up to 80% RPM and release your brakes...yep, that simple.

[gavinc]

Repaints drop in nicely

[Ravenna]

Your right JD...a light touch on the ground and in the air! Thanks for this beauty.:ernae:

[apollo]

And nevertheless that's it:banghead:
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/453/grab020cx1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[bearcat241]

Apollo, you either did not install the weapons i included in the download at all, or you did so incorrectly. Try again and use the instructions in the included Db_weapons.zip.

[apollo]

I well installed(settled) everything WITH your "zip" , see pic , Even by installing(settling) from the original "zip" of DBolt that does not walk(work):banghead:
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5972/grab022jm4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[bearcat241]

You need to get DB's Enhanced U.S. weapons v2.0a to get "WEP_DB_us_rocket_pylon_c"; its a silver painted rocket pylon. That's what you're missing....sorry, it wasn't contained in the download.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/index.php?loc=downloads&page=downloads_search#download

[apollo]

Many Thanks !:jump::wavey: