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Lateral-G

July 24th, 2010, 15:52

letsgetrowdy

July 24th, 2010, 23:08

Ah, the old fatal error... - A reoccuring accomplice of mine.....:angryfir:

Mine started when I first installed Hardrive No.2 to put "Media" onto. This included all my add-on scenery etc, I did this to free up some space on the OS. My fatal errors mainly come up DURING free-flight as I'm on either the ground waiting to take off or after landing. In free flight the fatal error is directly linked to the pop-up menu bar that is activated by right clicking. When the cursor is moved over the options on the pop-up menu, or alternatively the top menu bar, this triggers the fatal error. The fatal error on the starting screen also really p***es me off and shows its ugly head around once out of every five times I start.

SOLUTIONS............. None as such. I've had a family friend, who is effectively an FS Guru, help to rid my demons as has been unsuccesful. The problem is unfortunatly unavoidable and you will just have to reload FSX until it starts up properly.
The fatal error in free-flight is perhaps even more annoying. The best way to avoid it is either don't use the pop-up menu bar or the top one; just use the keyboard shorthcuts, (this will guarantee not errors) or do use the menu, but dont ever put the cursor over it. Alternatively just browse up and down the menu with the arrows on the keypad. This majorly reduces the chance of getting a fatal error but does not completely stop them. This is way I use it and I'm now so used to doing this I couldn't do anything else.

The OS has absolutly no baring on this problem as I have Vista HP (and that's another story...) and I get fatal errors by-the-barrel full.

Cheers,

Z-DarthVader

July 24th, 2010, 23:40

This just started happening and not sure why:

I boot up FSX and get "a fatal error has occurred" dialog box.

I deleted the cfg files and am able to get to the settings menu but as soon as i try free flight up comes the fatal error screen.

I've deleted the logbook thinking that may be the problem but no joy there either.

I've tried searching the web but I get little info other than deleting the cfg file or the prefetch file (which I tried as well to no effect)

I'm running XP and the sim worked fine yesterday. No recent add-ons or programs have been installed either.

I'm at a loss here. Any suggestions?

-G-

Hey G,

Could it be that something changed through M$ Windows update? I had that happen to me once. Try looking for error messages in the eventviewer. Go to the start menu, select run, type in evetvwr, and therein go to the application section. Normally you should find error messages there. They usually mention the culprit of the fatal error.

Could you check that and come back with the results please? That would make assessing this error a bit easier!

Good luck!

Lateral-G

July 25th, 2010, 14:29

Hey G,

Could it be that something changed through M$ Windows update? I had that happen to me once. Try looking for error messages in the eventviewer. Go to the start menu, select run, type in evetvwr, and therein go to the application section. Normally you should find error messages there. They usually mention the culprit of the fatal error.

Could you check that and come back with the results please? That would make assessing this error a bit easier!

Good luck!

I looked in the event viewer and the only thing listed was a problem with javaw.exe

I went to java and re-installed the java console but still got the fatal error window. The funny thing is there are no listings in the event viewer for FSX. nada, zip, none.

I've even used the repair function on the main FSX disc but no joy.

After sill more searching on the web this seems to be a common problem but one with no solution. It's seems strange more folks haven't responded to my thread. I certainly can't be the only one that has experienced this based on what I've seen.....

Lateral-G

July 26th, 2010, 05:35

Hmmmm, lots of views on this topic but little in the way of replies.....

I'm also experiencing another issue with javaw.exe. Web searching also shows this to be another problem child. Indications seem to be it may have to do with jre 6.20 so I uninstalled 6.20 and reverted to 6.18. Unfortunately FSX still gives the fatal error on launch but now at least it seems the messages on java have stopped.

I have a previous install of FSX on my second HD and I can run this one fine (it used to be the original install before I got a second HD that became the primary...long story..)

However, my main FSX program is still CTD'ing and giving a fata error.

So, no one has any ideas?

-G-

AndyE1976

July 26th, 2010, 06:29

I would recommend doing a system restore to when you know it worked. That's normally been my best route out of weirdness. If there were any windows updates that applied themselves and you had system restore turned on it would create a restore point prior to the upgrade.

In theory that should return your system to how it was before.

System restore is under All Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools

BASys

July 26th, 2010, 12:52

Lateral-G

July 27th, 2010, 05:54

Hi Folks

Lateral-G
First thing to do whenever FSX crashes, (or any application),
is look at your Event Viewer - Application Log.

You'll find at least one error report
every time FSX CTDs,
which will detail the underlying cause.

It'll also contain a link to MS's Help & Support Centre,
which, more often than not,
contains a solution to the specific event.

N.B.
FSX crashing may be a SYMPTOM,
of an underlying Operating System issue
rather than an inherent cause.

HTH
ATB
Paul

Paul,

I checked the event viewer log and the are no links to MS's help and support center. In fact nothing has been addressed ever by MS on this issue. There is plenty of references to the 'fatal error' on the web but no known solution. The closest thing I could find was a reference to Phil Taylor mentioning that it might be addressed in the Acceleration/SP2 patch but nothing more on it. Since the FSX team has been disbanded I'm sure MS could give a whit about it now.

The event viewer does list some files that it would send to MS if I reported the problem. I don't have them all in front of me now but I know two of them were the FSX cfg file and the scenery cfg file. There was one dat file and a DLL file. They were all in the folder where the FSX cfg file resides normally. I removed the files and tried to start FSX thinking that FSX would re-build them (which it did) but I still got the fatal error message.

So right now I'm at a dead end in trying to figure this problem out...........

-G-

BASys

July 27th, 2010, 06:24

Hi Folks

I checked the event viewer log
and the are no links to MS's help and support center.
Lateral-G -

Click -
Start -> Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Event Viewer

Click on Application
It'll display the log of Application Error Records.

Double-clicking any event
will display that events details.

Post the content of your 2 most recent FSX events.

AIUI on all OS's -
Every event type contains a link in the DESCRIPTION box -

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.To the casual observer
it looks generic to every event,
but actually passes the relevant parameters.

If there are no FSX errors,
post the content of the javaw.exe error description,
as it might be addon related.

Post your exe.xml and dll.xml, (both wrapped in code tags).

Also maximise your Application log Event Viewer window.
Take a screenie and attach it.

HTH
ATB
Paul

Lateral-G

July 27th, 2010, 06:36

Hi Folks

Lateral-G -

Click -
Start -> Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Event Viewer

Click on Application
It'll display the log of Application Error Records.

Double-clicking any event
will display that events details.

Post the content of your 2 most recent FSX events.

AIUI on all OS's -
Every event type contains a link in the DESCRIPTION box -
To the casual observer
it looks generic to every event,
but actually passes the relevant parameters.

If there are no FSX errors,
post the content of the javaw.exe error description,
as it might be addon related.

Post your exe.xml and dll.xml, (both wrapped in code tags).

Also maximise your Application log Event Viewer window.
Take a screenie and attach it.

HTH
ATB
Paul

I'll have to do that later this evening. I'm at work now.......

-G-

harleyman

July 27th, 2010, 10:22

Following this close.....

Lateral-G

July 27th, 2010, 15:08

Paul,

Event 1:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j8/jbrundt/errors%20and%20bugs/event1.jpg

Event 2

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j8/jbrundt/errors%20and%20bugs/event2.jpg

This the link to MS website for help and support and what they say:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j8/jbrundt/errors%20and%20bugs/MSlink.jpg

You'll notice there is no known fix....

Here's the javaw.exe event log:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j8/jbrundt/errors%20and%20bugs/javaevent.jpg

and what MS help has to say about it:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j8/jbrundt/errors%20and%20bugs/MSlinkrejava.jpg

Lastly here's my event viewer:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j8/jbrundt/errors%20and%20bugs/eventviewer.jpg

As far as posting the exe.xml and dll.xml I am not sure how to go about posting that info. If you could provide more detail I would be happy to do it.

-G-

Lateral-G

July 28th, 2010, 11:32

looks like this one is a real thinker, huh?

BASys

July 28th, 2010, 11:52

Hi Folks

Lateral-G -
EDIT - Was busy with IRL/other matters. :salute:

Possibly the likely cause,
(from pers exp running my lowly spec'd PC's during fsx betas).

Do you have ANY of the following entries in your fsx.CFG ?

[SCENERY]
// Alert missing objects
MissingLibraryAlert=1

// Alert missing textures
ShowMissingTextureAlert=1
[Debug]
// Report mission relted errors
ReportLoadErrors=1 //0If so,
first some background -
Crashes generate error data.

Hung applications do not.

Hence the you receive an -
Event ID: 1002 == Error message that there was an unexpected or missing value.

Hanging applications -
Are most frequently caused by GUI elements timing out,
which then generates the hung app error.

When any application generates a GUI element,
e.g. modal dialog box, or modal child window,
it does so in the context of the Desktop Window Manager, (DWM).

When any application generates a GUI element,
the window focus is transferred to that GUI element,
and a message is added to the DWM queue.

If your FSX slider settings are too high,
FSX continues to catch up with rendering the viewport,
and re-aquires the window focus,
drawing over the now hidden GUI element.

The DWM is still waiting for your response to the GUI element.
After a certain time has expired, the DWM issues the hung app error.

Solution -
You could turn off those alerts
but that'd only be masking other FPS affecting issues.

The most appropriate & beneficial approach
would be to ensure your sliders are not set beyond your PC's capabilities,
i.e.
That your FPS variance is not exceeding 5%
Personally I aim for less than 1% variance.

Modify your TextInfo data, (SHIFT+Z), displayed fields by tweaking your fsx.CFG.
See FSDeveloper - Wiki - Problem Resolving (FSX) - Assessing Performance in FSX(A) (http://www.fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?title=Problem_Resolving_%28FSX%29#Assess ing_Performance_in_FSX.28A.29)

Not sure if this might also work -
I'm guessing when a GUI element is generated
it'll force an FSX pause, thus highlighting the dialog occurrence.

In your fsx.cfg, try setting -

[USERINTERFACE]
PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=1I've some other questions regarding your event log entries,
but'll wait till you've responded to/tried the above.

HTH
ATB
Paul

Lateral-G

July 28th, 2010, 17:51

Paul,

Unfortunately that didn't help.

Do you have ANY of the following entries in your fsx.CFG ?
Code:

[SCENERY]
// Alert missing objects
MissingLibraryAlert=1

// Alert missing textures
ShowMissingTextureAlert=1</pre>
Code:

[Debug]
// Report mission relted errors
ReportLoadErrors=1 //0</pre>

Those entries are not in my CFG settings.

Here is my current cfg file:

[SOUND]
AmbientUIMusicVolume=-6.000000
PrimaryDevice={DEF00000-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
VoiceDevice={DEF00002-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
SOUND=1
SOUND_QUALITY=2
SOUND_LOD=0
UISound=1
AmbientUI=1
[Display]
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TransitionTime=4.000000
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InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0
InfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0
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InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255
InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoBrakesEnable=True
InfoParkingBrakesEnable=True
InfoPauseEnable=True
InfoSlewEnable=True
InfoStallEnable=True
InfoOverspeedEnable=True
BLOOM_EFFECTS=0
SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1
TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=40
UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=20
WideViewAspect=False
[Main]
User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter
SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\Airplanes
SimObjectPaths.1=SimObjects\Rotorcraft
SimObjectPaths.2=SimObjects\GroundVehicles
SimObjectPaths.3=SimObjects\Boats
SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Animals
SimObjectPaths.5=SimObjects\Misc
SimObjectPaths.6=c:\Hangar\Military
SimObjectPaths.7=c:\Hangar\Vintage
SimObjectPaths.8=c:\Hangar\Trainer
SimObjectPaths.9=c:\Hangar\WWII Aircraft
SimObjectPaths.10=c:\Hangar\Nasa
SimObjectPaths.11=c:\Hangar\Jet Transport
SimObjectPaths.12=c:\Hangar\Civilian
SimObjectPaths.13=h:\fsx aircraft\backup
ProcSpeed=6929
PerfBucket=5
HideMenuNormal=0
HideMenuFullscreen=1
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Maximized=1
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IMAGE_QUALITY=1
DEFAULT_VIEW=0
QUICKTIPS=1
PANEL_OPACITY=100
PANEL_MASKING=1
PANEL_STRETCHING=1
UNITS_OF_MEASURE=0
[Weather]
WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1
MinGustTime=10
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MinGustRampSpeed=1
MaxGustRampSpeed=200
MinVarTime=5
MaxVarTime=50
MinVarRampSpeed=10
MaxVarRampSpeed=75
TurbulenceScale=1.000000
WeatherServerAddress=fs2k.zone.com
WeatherServerPort=80
WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0
AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1
DynamicWeather=2
DownloadWindsAloft=0
DisableTurbulence=0
CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=3
DETAILED_CLOUDS=1
CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=6
THERMAL_VISUALS=0
[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS.0]
Mode=1280x768x32
TriLinear=1
AntiAlias=1
[AccelerationPack]
ControlsFirstRun=0
HomePageFirstRun=0
[CONTROLS]
Controls_Default=Standard
Controls_Current=Standard
force_master_gain=10000
force_stick_force_enabled=1
force_stick_shaker_enabled=1
force_gear_bump_enabled=1
force_crash_enabled=1
force_ground_bumps_enabled=1
KBDAIL=64
KBDELEV=64
KBDRUD=64
[TextInfo.1]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
[TextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2
GForce=1,3
FuelPercentage=1,4
[TextInfo.3]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
FrameRate=2,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
GForce=2,3
FuelPercentage=2,4
[SlewTextInfo.1]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
[SlewTextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2
[SlewTextInfo.3]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
FrameRate=2,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
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H:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Captain_Sim\727\Captain_Sim.p727.menu.dll.khloah cllkcutkahhctznqeqthiwroibwikhtbhu=1
H:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.dll.hkzllialkozurbqabqazutuqlebr hhzcntobkowc=1
H:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Warbirdsim\Warbirdsim.p51.dll.wiwwqnhrwlbbzqoqib cnutnzwctaqaelzberrequ=1
C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Captain_Sim\727\Captain_Sim.p727.menu.dll.khloah cllkcutkahhctznqeqthiwroibwikhtbhu=1
C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.dll.hkzllialkozurbqabqazutuqlebr hhzcntobkowc=1
C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\CONCORDE.GAU.elucaoboburluctlehaouhrqqeal uuhbizialzwr=2
C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\fa-18.DLL.hcnttccaqioqhlchbnuuczrqwcbiitnkzoiacinc=2
C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\COP3/CarrierZones.GAU.qhauhhetecoblrnwzwzrbzowikouetwoi blaocrw=2
C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\COP3/Config.GAU.ncklolnkreuzzewautriwobhonwccwertcaceza t=2
C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\COP3/Sound.DLL.wzrlohweheoettznlwhbzhacwecbinuowiebzwut =2
C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\COP3/SpeedControl.DLL.zczkcnaluqbhwwqcuhtlzltoawkuebtwq wqninkq=2
C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\CS_FA-18D\panel\cs.fa18d.GAU.ozzicerqzlkzzazbobuquuoqhua uarlnttwklnrw=2
C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\COP3/WindowStatus.GAU.tealebantcarienizhkiqbzkwzriawhok hihwaac=2
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C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\dsd_xml_sound3.GAU.antobanoleiaecchloihbk oearhqbblqizknobho=2
C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\Skyhawk_Instr.GAU.eclhuizelhtwnbhletclhki taqqtcuoozakczuko=2
C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\Extra-300.GAU.qkebuuklwnqiktaeawrbwcohozwoqnkqbbrbluno=2
C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\Bell_206B.DLL.lecotlqneoewwlbzakahhczwczi wtbceiloobilo=2
C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\Bendix_King_Radio.DLL.uwqlqoarcbcccebuobo kebahqarruchrnwhuhbwe=2
C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\Cessna208.GAU.oheoztkuqlrzrheelniclzilieh lrblbznwichnw=2
C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\f4u1a_corsair.GAU.hzqaailuuibckniqnkrqqab bqaohikctlzqububi=2
C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\kingair_radio.DLL.iunbukttqurhchanuwbnhwu unoecltkwizohuoiz=2
C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\Mooney_Bravo.DLL.thlkiwktwurlrqqrazbiunnb lhwlzahtcunahnhu=2
C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\Cessna.DLL.hbririqhazauzoianoceboiquehint nnbonluoec=2
C:\a old pc\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\737-400.DLL.qualiqkhqlheurzohohibwnnkruubkcnnwqqezbk=2
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MaxHeadAngle=5.000000
MaxHeadOffset=0.300000
HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000
[VirtualCopilot]
VirtualCopilotActive=1
[GRAPHICS]
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TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=512
NUM_LIGHTS=8
AIRCRAFT_SHADOWS=1
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COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1
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EFFECTS_QUALITY=2
GROUND_SHADOWS=0
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Text_Scroll=1
[USERINTERFACE]
PageID=1
OpenATCOnCreate=0
SHOW_MISSION_CAPTIONS=0
PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=1
PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1
SITUATION=FLIGHTS\OTHER\FLTSIM
Map_Orientation=2
ShowAllACPaintSchemes=1
SelectAircraftManufacturer=Quest Kodiak
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COMM_MSG_AI_ATC_COLOR=FFFF7840
AutoOpenAirTrafficWindow=1
UsePilotVoice=1
PilotVoice=0
[PointOfInterestSystem]
CycleSetting=0
[SCENERY]
LENSFLARE=1
DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1
IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=2
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AirlineDensity=10
GADensity=10
FreewayDensity=10
ShipsAndFerriesDensity=30
LeisureBoatsDensity=30
IFROnly=0
AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=2
[TERRAIN]
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MESH_COMPLEXITY=70
MESH_RESOLUTION=19
TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=24
AUTOGEN_DENSITY=2
DETAIL_TEXTURE=1
WATER_EFFECTS=3
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ShowLabels=1
ShowUserLabel=0
ShowLabelManufacturer=1
ShowLabelModel=1
ShowLabelTailNumber=0
ShowLabelDistance=1
ShowLabelAltitude=1
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ShowLabelAirlineAndFlightNumber=0
ShowLabelFlightPlan=0
ShowLabelContainerId=0
ShowLabelAirspeed=0
ShowLabelHeading=0
LabelDelay=1000
LabelColor=FFFF0000
[INTERNATIONAL]
ASLAT=2
ASLON=1
MEASURE=0
[REALISM]
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Torque=0.000000
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CrashTolerance=0.000000
General=0.000000
UnlimitedFuel=True
AllowEngineDamage=False
TrueAirspeed=False
AutoCoord=False
RealMixture=False
StressDamage=False
GEffect=False
ManualLights=False
GyroDrift=False
CrashWithDyn=False
CrashDetection=False
AutoTrim=False
[SIM]
SYSCLOCK=1
[STARTUP]
DEMO=0
SHOW_OPENING_SCREEN=1
STARTUP_DEMO=
LoadWindow=1
[FACILITIES]
COUNTRY=
STATE=
CITY=
GTL_BUTTON=1261
[Misc]
Com_Rate=7
[MAPVIEW_MAP]
SHOW_AIRPORTS=1
SHOW_VORS=1
SHOW_NDBS=1
SHOW_APPROACHES=1
SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=0
SHOW_VICTOR=0
SHOW_JET=0
SHOW_AIRSPACE=1
SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1
SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1
SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1
SHOW_DATATAGS=1
SHOW_TERRAIN=1
show_flight_history=1
[MULTIPLAYER]
condAccoutPassword=0
[USERINTERFACE]
PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=1

I added the last part with the [USERINTERFACE] but it didn't help.

-G-

Lateral-G

July 28th, 2010, 18:36

Here's the exe.xml ( I think I figured out how to get it):

the < > are replaced with [ & ] so the text won't get formatted in the forum....

<style>BODY{font:x-small 'Verdana';margin-right:1.5em} .c{cursor:hand} .b{color:red;font-family:'Courier New';font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none} .e{margin-left:1em;text-indent:-1em;margin-right:1em} .k{margin-left:1em;text-indent:-1em;margin-right:1em} .t{color:#990000} .xt{color:#990099} .ns{color:red} .dt{color:green} .m{color:blue} .tx{font-weight:bold} .db{text-indent:0px;margin-left:1em;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;padding-left:.3em;border-left:1px solid #CCCCCC;font:small Courier} .di{font:small Courier} .d{color:blue} .pi{color:blue} .cb{text-indent:0px;margin-left:1em;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;padding-left:.3em;font:small Courier;color:#888888} .ci{font:small Courier;color:#888888} PRE{margin:0px;display:inline}</style><script></script> <style>BODY{font:x-small 'Verdana';margin-right:1.5em} .c{cursor:hand} .b{color:red;font-family:'Courier New';font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none} .e{margin-left:1em;text-indent:-1em;margin-right:1em} .k{margin-left:1em;text-indent:-1em;margin-right:1em} .t{color:#990000} .xt{color:#990099} .ns{color:red} .dt{color:green} .m{color:blue} .tx{font-weight:bold} .db{text-indent:0px;margin-left:1em;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;padding-left:.3em;border-left:1px solid #CCCCCC;font:small Courier} .di{font:small Courier} .d{color:blue} .pi{color:blue} .cb{text-indent:0px;margin-left:1em;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;padding-left:.3em;font:small Courier;color:#888888} .ci{font:small Courier;color:#888888} PRE{margin:0px;display:inline}</style><script></script> - (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/) [SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0"]
[Descr>Launch</Descr]

[Filename>EXE.XML</Filename]

[Disabled>False</Disabled]

[Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad]

- (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/) [Launch.Addon]
[Disabled>False</Disabled]

[ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad[

[Name>AICarriers</Name]

[Path>H:\Program Files\AICarriers\aicarriers.exe</Path]

[CommandLine>-nogui</CommandLine]

[/Launch.Addon]

[/SimBase.Document]

And the dll.exe:

<style>BODY{font:x-small 'Verdana';margin-right:1.5em} .c{cursor:hand} .b{color:red;font-family:'Courier New';font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none} .e{margin-left:1em;text-indent:-1em;margin-right:1em} .k{margin-left:1em;text-indent:-1em;margin-right:1em} .t{color:#990000} .xt{color:#990099} .ns{color:red} .dt{color:green} .m{color:blue} .tx{font-weight:bold} .db{text-indent:0px;margin-left:1em;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;padding-left:.3em;border-left:1px solid #CCCCCC;font:small Courier} .di{font:small Courier} .d{color:blue} .pi{color:blue} .cb{text-indent:0px;margin-left:1em;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;padding-left:.3em;font:small Courier;color:#888888} .ci{font:small Courier;color:#888888} PRE{margin:0px;display:inline}</style><script></script> [?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252" ?]
- (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/) [SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0"]
[Descr>Launch</Descr]

[Filename>dll.xml</Filename]

[Disabled>False</Disabled]

[Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad]

- (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/) [Launch.Addon]
[Name>Object Placement Tool</Name]

[Disabled>True</Disabled]

[ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad]

[Path>..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Mission Creation Kit\object_placement.dll</Path>

[/Launch.Addon]

- (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/) [Launch.Addon]
[Name>Traffic Toolbox</Name]

[Disabled>True</Disabled]

[ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad]

[Path>..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Traffic Toolbox SDK\traffictoolbox.dll</Path]

[/Launch.Addon]

- (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/) [Launch.Addon]
[Name>Visual Effects Tool</Name]

[Disabled>True</Disabled]

[ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad]

[Path>..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Special Effects SDK\visualfxtool.dll</Path]

[/Launch.Addon]

- (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/) [Launch.Addon]
[Name>Captain Sim 727 Menu</Name]

[Disabled>False</Disabled]

[Path>Captain_Sim\727\Captain_Sim.p727.menu.dll</Path]

[/Launch.Addon]

- (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/) [Launch.Addon]
[Name>FSUIPC 4</Name]

[Disabled>False</Disabled>

[Path>Modules\FSUIPC4.dll</Path]

[/Launch.Addon]

- (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/) [Launch.Addon]
[Name>Warbirdsim P51</Name]

[Disabled>False</Disabled]

[ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad]

[DLLStartName>module_init</DLLStartName]

[DLLStopName>module_deinit</DLLStopName]

[Path>Warbirdsim\Warbirdsim.p51.dll</Path]

[/Launch.Addon]

[/SimBase.Document]

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Lateral-G

July 28th, 2010, 18:48

Sorry the exe.xml and dll.xml look bizarre but the forum html format screws up the text when I try to cut and paste.
-G-

BASys

July 29th, 2010, 03:24

Hi Folks

Lateral-G -
Click the 13870 button above inserts code tags.

Pasting your content between
prevents the forum modifying your content.

Either edit your previous,
or repost dll.xml and exe.xml.

HTH
ATB
Paul

Lateral-G

July 29th, 2010, 14:07

<simbase.document type="<b>Launch</b>" version="<b>1,0</b>"><launch.manualload></launch.manualload> this code thing is kicking my ass.......
</simbase.document>

Lateral-G

July 29th, 2010, 14:12

Lateral-G

July 29th, 2010, 14:13

dll xml

<style>BODY{font:x-small 'Verdana';margin-right:1.5em} .c{cursor:hand} .b{color:red;font-family:'Courier New';font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none} .e{margin-left:1em;text-indent:-1em;margin-right:1em} .k{margin-left:1em;text-indent:-1em;margin-right:1em} .t{color:#990000} .xt{color:#990099} .ns{color:red} .dt{color:green} .m{color:blue} .tx{font-weight:bold} .db{text-indent:0px;margin-left:1em;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;padding-left:.3em;border-left:1px solid #CCCCCC;font:small Courier} .di{font:small Courier} .d{color:blue} .pi{color:blue} .cb{text-indent:0px;margin-left:1em;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;padding-left:.3em;font:small Courier;color:#888888} .ci{font:small Courier;color:#888888} PRE{margin:0px;display:inline}</style><script></script> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252" ?>
- (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/) <SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0">
<Descr>Launch</Descr>

<Filename>dll.xml</Filename>

<Disabled>False</Disabled>

<Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad>

- (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/) <Launch.Addon>
<Name>Object Placement Tool</Name>

<Disabled>True</Disabled>

<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>

<Path>..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Mission Creation Kit\object_placement.dll</Path>

</Launch.Addon>

- (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/) <Launch.Addon>
<Name>Traffic Toolbox</Name>

<Disabled>True</Disabled>

<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>

<Path>..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Traffic Toolbox SDK\traffictoolbox.dll</Path>

</Launch.Addon>

- (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/) <Launch.Addon>
<Name>Visual Effects Tool</Name>

<Disabled>True</Disabled>

<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>

<Path>..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Special Effects SDK\visualfxtool.dll</Path>

</Launch.Addon>

- (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/) <Launch.Addon>
<Name>Captain Sim 727 Menu</Name>

<Disabled>False</Disabled>

<Path>Captain_Sim\727\Captain_Sim.p727.menu.dll</Path>

</Launch.Addon>

- (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/) <Launch.Addon>
<Name>FSUIPC 4</Name>

<Disabled>False</Disabled>

<Path>Modules\FSUIPC4.dll</Path>

</Launch.Addon>

- (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/) <Launch.Addon>
<Name>Warbirdsim P51</Name>

<Disabled>False</Disabled>

<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>

<DLLStartName>module_init</DLLStartName>

<DLLStopName>module_deinit</DLLStopName>

<Path>Warbirdsim\Warbirdsim.p51.dll</Path>

</Launch.Addon>

</SimBase.Document>

BASys

July 29th, 2010, 15:24

Hi Folks

EDIT -
Ok, I give up on this forum's mis-configured installation.

Ickie -
I'm not intending to be rude here,
but please sort out the vBulletin or server's configuration,
as its utterly useless in its current mis-configured state.

While you're at it -
please drop the pointlesss, CPU-Sucking -
- animated SOH vbulletin4_logo.gif
and
- ALL scrolling marquee text.

[hr]

Lateral-G -
This is drifting off-topic.

I don't know what you are opening your xml files with,
but their supposed contents, as you'd posted,
contain substantial extraneous material.

You should ONLY be opening xml files in NotePad, or another TEXT editor.

Please change your xml's default file-association to NotePad.

The buttons in this forums posting window are,
starting from the leftmost end -
139071390813909etc. etc.

Use the 6th button from the right,
i.e. the code buttonhttp://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/images/editor/code.png to insert code tags.

Then paste your xml file between those tags.

Repeat for your 2nd xml file.

EDIT -
Lateral-G -
As a workaround for this forum's misconfiguration -

Please create a temporary folder,
copy your dll.xml and exe.xml into there,
then zip-up and attach that folder
to your next post.

Use the Preview Post button to test whther your content displays appropriately.

Example - My dll.xml
EDIT -
The following will appear as garbage
until Ickie and team correctly configure the SOH setup.

<simbase.document type="Launch" version="1,0">
<descr>Launch</descr>
<filename>dll.xml</filename>
<disabled>False</disabled>
<launch.manualload>False</launch.manualload>
<launch.addon>
<name>FSCopilot</name>
<disabled>False</disabled>

Modules\FSCopilot.dll</launch.addon>
</simbase.document>
<launch.addon>
<name>Object Placement Tool</name>
<disabled>False</disabled>
<manualload>False</manualload>

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Mission Creation Kit\object_placement.dll</launch.addon>

<launch.addon>
<name>Traffic Toolbox</name>
<disabled>False</disabled>
<manualload>False</manualload>

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Traffic Toolbox SDK\traffictoolbox.dll</launch.addon>

<launch.addon>
<name>Visual Effects Tool</name>
<disabled>False</disabled>
<manualload>False</manualload>

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Special Effects SDK\visualfxtool.dll</launch.addon>

<launch.addon>
<name>FS PRIVATE_BETA</name>
<disabled>TRUE</disabled>
<manualload>TRUE</manualload>

Extensions\PRIVATE_BETA.dll</launch.addon>

<launch.addon>
<name>FS Recorder Module</name>
<disabled>True</disabled>
<manualload>True</manualload>

Modules\RecorderFSX.dll</launch.addon>

<launch.addon>
<name>FSUIPC 4</name>
<disabled>TRUE</disabled>

Modules\FSUIPC4.dll</launch.addon>

Example - My exe.xml

<simbase.document type="Launch" version="1,0">
<descr>Launch</descr>
<filename>exe.xml</filename>
<disabled>False</disabled>
<launch.manualload>False</launch.manualload>
<launch.addon>
<name>My Addon</name>
<disabled>False</disabled>

Managed Data Request.exe</launch.addon>
</simbase.document>
<launch.addon>
<name>Mission Extension for FSX</name>
<disabled>False</disabled>
<manualload>False</manualload>

G:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Extensions\SimVar.exe</launch.addon>

Ok, I give up on this forum's mis-configured installation.

Ickie -
Please sort out your vBulletin configuration,
as its useless as is.

ATB
Paul

Lateral-G

July 30th, 2010, 07:24

Paul,

IE is opening up the xml files. I will use notepad from now on.

And I was getting the same format as you when using the 'code' tags with # symbol on the menu.....

When I get home tonight I will post the xml files either from notepad or I'll just take a screen blast and post those.

-G-

P.S. Seems strange no one else here has ever had this issue with FSX giving a fatal error on launch. I feel I can't be the only one...............

Lateral-G

July 30th, 2010, 15:14

for some goofy reason whenever I try to post the exact text as <simbase.document type="Launch" version="1,0">it is displayed the forum screws it up.

so I will post these links to screen blasts:

here's the dll(dot)xml file:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j8/jbrundt/errors%20and%20bugs/dllxml.jpg

and the EXE(dot)xml file:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j8/jbrundt/errors%20and%20bugs/exexml.jpg

sorry for having to do this but I have no other way to get the information in a readable format because of the way the forum here formats text....

-G-
</simbase.document>

wilycoyote4

July 30th, 2010, 19:12

P.S. Seems strange no one else here has ever had this issue with FSX giving a fatal error on launch. I feel I can't be the only one...............

No, I've just had the same problem for several days but all is fine now. And how did I solve it? I'll try to offer not tech advice but a simple record of events. My tech knowledge is feeble at best, in my humble opinion.

The REX SP3 was released. I downloaded the proper version of it for my installation and ran the installer exe file as admin.

FSX loaded perfectly, runs excellent again, as well as my pc can run it.

However, when it loaded for the 1st time after the REX SP3 installed, there was a brief time when FSX rebuilt a file but I was neither smart enouh nor quick enough to make a good note. I can't say if this a helpful clue.

Your situation may be very different,

In addition Microsoft and Java updates may be a factor and my desktop has FSX but is behind in updates for both----I think???

Hopefully all will keep running smoothly in the weeks ahead.

Roger

July 31st, 2010, 01:40

I cannot see past post #16 in this thread. Anyone know why? Using Ie8

Ickie

July 31st, 2010, 01:56

testing testing