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RyDraiggoch
July 16th, 2010, 10:26
Ted Cook has just released the M9 Kestrel (fore runner of the Master) for FS9

In my mind , it was always the most beautiful Miles built.


(its available at Teds website and the The Pond)

Leif

Lionheart
July 16th, 2010, 10:48
Thanks Leif,

The entire series of Miles were pretty smart looking planes. Some great designs.



Bill

Felixthreeone
July 16th, 2010, 11:32
Do you have a link?

NSS
July 16th, 2010, 11:44
Not an FS2000 Miles.

But how about this one.

Perhaps not the most beautiful plane but I like her.

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TARPSBird
July 16th, 2010, 11:44
Matt, here ya go:
http://www.tedcook.btinternet.co.uk/

TARPSBird
July 16th, 2010, 11:50
Not an FS2000 Miles.

But how about this one.

Perhaps not the most beautiful plane but I like her.

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That looks like something that was designed on bar napkins at Happy Hour but I like it too. :) So it's a Miles, what's the model name?

huub vink
July 16th, 2010, 12:45
Thanks for the HU, RyDraiggoch. The Kestrel doesn't look bad. However personally I like the simplicity from the Magister more.

Cheers,
Huub

NSS
July 16th, 2010, 13:49
That looks like something that was designed on bar napkins at Happy Hour but I like it too. :) So it's a Miles, what's the model name?

The Miles M39B ‘Libellula’ was designed in 1943 by the infamous George Miles as what he saw as the ideal configuration for a carrier-based, high speed, lightly armed, high altitude bomber, he ultimately failed to convince the Ministry of its superior design and it never progressed beyond the one experimental aircraft

The actual M39b (‘Libellula’ — named after the generic name for the dragonfly) was infact a 5/8ths scale 'manned' flying model of a much larger design. This larger aircraft would probably have been powered by 3 turbojets, but these were very much in their infancy at the time. It wasn't exactly a ‘tail first’ design, but a ‘tandem wing’ configuration, with both wings contributing to the aerodynamic ‘lift’ and both fitted with flaps. The M39b was powered by two Gypsy Major engines, three fins, (though the central one does look like a quick design afterthought!), a retracting undercarrige and space for one pilot. It was regularly flown by the great test pilot Eric 'Winkle' Brown during the aircrafts days at the RAE and he has often written about how nice and conventional the aircraft was to fly! ( http://www.rcmf.co.uk/4um/Smileys/live/crossfingers.gif) The aircraft was broken up at the end of the '40's when The Miles Aircraft Compnay went into liquidation

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Should anyone wish to see it the full build "thread" can be found here. http://www.rcmf.co.uk/4um/index.php/topic,49425.0.html

RyDraiggoch
July 16th, 2010, 15:17
Sorry I missed the links

I figured most folks know Uncle Ted's address and the Ponds as well

Trying to persuade Gary Jones to modify his Rolls Royce Kestrel sound set

to feature a three bladed constant speed prop now. it already has the radiator whistle.

Hub/Bill -- I don't know why I have such an affinity for the Kestrel, the first time I saw pictures

of it was when a small boy, in my fathers library (probably around 1958-59) My father had

Cutaway books from Aeroplane published before World War 2 and obviously Miles held great

hopes for the Kestrel - I always thought it should be armed and something that Biggles flew.


Leif

The Libeulla's center fin was added after its first flight due to a marked tendency to dutch roll......the full size bomber would have been a monster. and far ahead of its time.

RyDraiggoch
July 18th, 2010, 04:30
Sorry to bump this up again, However Gary Jones (maker of sound files extraordinaire)
has just put up a modification of his Rolls Royce Kestrel sound file specifically for
Uncle Ted's Miles M9 Kestrel - it features gear and flap sounds and of course a beautiful
variable pitch prop sound.
its available now at www.classicbritishfiles.com (http://www.classicbritishfiles.com) (in the library)

Leif

Drzook
July 21st, 2010, 19:54
Thank you all for the Kestrel--I just got v.2 with the upgraded soundpack and I will say it is a wonderful cacophony of ear-candy. Looks-wise it is gorgeous--with the number on the side it screams 1930s long-distance racer--something we would see in a late-'30s version of the MacRobertson air race. :ernae:

NSS
July 21st, 2010, 23:01
Another lovely Miles.

M.38 Messenger.



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Sundog
July 22nd, 2010, 01:25
Another lovely Miles.

M.38 Messenger.



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Rick Piper was working on one of those a while back. I think he was waiting for panel/interior information/data to finish it.

RyDraiggoch
July 22nd, 2010, 10:32
NSS and Sundog -- David Molyneaux (builder of myriads of Austers) also built a Messenger for Fs9.

May I suggest you go to www.classicbritishfiles.com -- open the search engine in the library and
type in Miles -- you will be surprised what appears....

Leif

Desert Rat
July 22nd, 2010, 12:50
The family lineage can be seen through the Master prototype, before they moved the radiator it is more obvious.

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Jamie.

PS. Matt one is CFS2 rebuild we did of Uncle Teds whilst I added a few variations. -->here (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/page.php?lloc=downloads&loc=downloads&page=downloads&FileUploadName=buddha13)<--
PPS. Shiny one was my attempt to bring her into FS9, never got it to work right, sorry. (only had permission from Ted for CFS2 conversion anyway)

RyDraiggoch
July 22nd, 2010, 13:50
The biggest change to the prototype Master was the redesigned tail group with the Kestrel turning that three bladed CS prop I would be fairly certain the P factor must have been quite
fierce. The relocation of the radiator was more likely a CG thing rather than aerodynamics.
The M9 Kestrel was built as a racer/tourer rather than a trainer. But as usual P&P got it right
and it made an excellent advanced trainer in the Master.

In any case it holds a place in my heart and I thank "Uncle" Ted and Gary Jones for teaming up
and producing her.


Leif

Desert Rat
July 22nd, 2010, 14:31
I always thought it should be armed and something that Biggles flew.

It almost made it,
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/page.php?lloc=downloads&loc=downloads&page=info&FileID=12351
a generation removed and production of Spits and Hurris keeping apace, oh well, nearly. I have an affinity also, I spent months doing the work on the CFS2 conversions, wouldn't have done it otherwise.

OBIO
July 22nd, 2010, 15:58
For those who enjoy the looks of the Miles aircraft, here's a link you should check out. This guy built models of what appears to be every Miles aircraft ever produced.

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2007/01/stuff_eng_hrubisko_miles_01.htm

OBIO

Desert Rat
July 23rd, 2010, 07:08
Funny Obio, I have that page bookmarked, was looking for it last night, the odd name threw me and I didn't find it in my myriad of bookmarked pages.

Thanks,
Jamie