Flying car

[Ken Stallings]

Best flying car design I have yet seen.

http://www.terrafugia.com/

Ken

[Skittles]

I'm not sure. It is after all essentially just a car with wings and a fan on the back. If you've got to drive to the airport to take off, then land at an airport and drive home (all for $200,000) you might as well just get a car and a plane!

Personally I don't think flying cars will happen for the general public. The quality of technology will be available, but the quality of the public won't be. Drunk driver bumps into a car on the ground, everyone is fine. Drunk flyer bumps into somebodies wing and breaks off a bit of the wing, everybody dies. Can you imagine everyone in even just a small town going on a family day out on a saturday morning? 2000 aircraft in the pattern!?

Not to mention that I really don't want to share the skies with thousands of other people in my area that kind of thing. Not much fun when it's congested.

[Wing_Z]

I've never really figured out why this should be so, but flying cars are really bad cars, and also really bad aircraft.
Same with floating cars.

[Lionheart]

I agree Ken. Nicest one so far.

Very nice folding wing design.



Bill

[Bjoern]

Couldn't you essentially get a PPL, a used small Cessna *and* a fairly unused car for those $194000?

[Kiwikat]

Just the idea of flying cars is horrifying. People can't even drive on surface streets, let alone highways. It is frightening thinking about people texting while flying. :icon_eek:

[Chacha]

I saw the terrafugia,at the Sun N' Fun 2009.
That plane is great looking.
If they could make that plane/car fly that would be outstanding.
When I was a kid many, many, many years ago,
I was dreaming that we will have flying cars in the next 10 years.
That was many ten years ago.....

And YES, would it be nice to go to work in a flying car....
and land on your rooftop building!
FUN...
I love it...
Even in a dream!

[tigisfat]

We shouldn't be so quick to discount the usefullness of flying cars. I do agree that I wouldn't keep it at my house and drive it to the airport, because then it's no different than owning an airplane and a car. I would really enjoy a flying car for the ability to fly anywhere and then have a car there. There aren't always courtesy cars at tiny airports, and when there are, the instructions aren't always clear. I certainly enjoy the prospect of flying to a small resort town or national park airport, and then already having your own comfortable vehicle there.

[tigisfat]

Just the idea of flying cars is horrifying. People can't even drive on surface streets, let alone highways. It is frightening thinking about people texting while flying. :icon_eek:

Kiwi, I normally agree with your points....but I don't understand or agree with these. Anyone who's ever been new to flying multi engine aircraft and received a simulated engine failure while halfway through setting up an ILS in constant moderate chop will laugh at the prospect of saying texting while flying is dangerous. Precision flight while being distracted and needing to manipulate cockpit devices is the stuff flight training is made of. Hell, even normal flight operations in a single engine trainer will have you working more gizmos in the cockpit than you ever would texting (unless you're writing a novel). While I would whole heartedly discourage texting in the flare, (:icon_lol:)the nature of being PIC means texting has nothing on even tuning the radios. Actually, airline pilots send 'texts' all the time from the cockpit, and so do some military guys.

Cell phone useage in aircraft is spotty anyway. You're not guaranteed good reception, even over urban areas, and your phone can have a tendency to search for or hop towers. That drains battery life like mad. That hasn't stopped me from (disclaimer: in VMC with an appropriately rated safety observer) flying approaches off my iphone. There are several apps I use (just for fun only) for GPS backup and to have electronic charts. You're not supposed to rely on them for anything critical, but apps are great for reference and familiarization. A friend of mine called a family member on the phone while flying a B-1 at 22,000 feet and all kinds of wierd stuff was happening to the signal.

[demorier]

It's a fugly thing, I know that much.

[Bushpounder]

You can park it next to the flying Pinto. (yes, it was real!)

Don

[aeromed202]

I would have few issues with flying cars, provided...

1) Only certified pilots can fly them under the same rules as conventional aircraft.
2) At no time may such vehicle decide to leave the ground capriciously to avoid traffic, etc. (see rule1).
3) The FAA is finally split into two groups, one for promotion and one for safety (with teeth).

I could imagine that a significant segment of aircraft owners or future owners may opt to get one of these instead of a typical plane so perhaps the overall air traffic might not increase if these became affordable, but you couldn't hold these only to ops at airports for long. The pressure would mount to allow them to use all sorts of improvised runways, close to home, work and vacation spots. I'm not sure we are ready for that. You have to consider lots of things if this idea gets serious.
But could you imagine the pre-flight if you were parked downtown for the day? You'd be wringing your hands that you missed something some degenerate did to make you crash. Too much stress.

[Lionheart]

Remember, helicopters can basically land anywhere. You dont see them filling up the skies, or landing in crazy places, though they do need to land on roads when people are harmed.

I remember working for the Ferrari dealership here. They would have us picked up via the company helo from the other side of town, we would drop off the girl at the dealership off at the Biltmore golfcourse near her home. We didnt cause any commotions, all was legal and ATC was in constant contact.

People land Cessna's on roads and in fields all the time out in the country.

My thoughts are that if (if) we got organized and the economy improved, we could have sections of side roads that run parallel with major roads that were just for mini aircraft that were able to drive in traffic also, so that they could merge and land at these remote mini strips, blend into traffic and take their exits to their neighborhoods.

It will simply be a bit different then Helo's is all I am thinking. Plus, they will be so expensive and people still need their license to fly them...



Bill

[Henry]

what i need is a flying and a boat car
now there's a good invention
H

[Wing_Z]

what i need is a flying and a boat car...

...that can dive to 1,000ft and mix a cocktail at the bottom, shaken not stirred :d

[Kiwikat]

Kiwi, I normally agree with your points....but I don't understand or agree with these.

It was mostly aimed at the 16 year old girls... They can't even drive a car. I don't want to imagine what it'd be like if they flew a carplane. :173go1:

[Cazzie]

It's got Piglet written all over it! :ernae::jump:

Caz

[Chacha]

I still LOVE the idea of flying cars....
Like the Hanna-Barbera's The Jetsons....

[Lionheart]

I too love the idea of flying cars. Being able to drive around in traffic, then at a certain point, transition to flight, climb up to say 6,000 feet, setup auto pilot, and go to the next town would be brilliant. When I was in high school, I did a design study in a class doing a program on the future of transportation. Mine was a flying car that could lift off at roughly 80 MPH, was a lifting body with a few retracting control surfaces. My dream was that it could fly to Catalina Island You would land, drive out to the village below, park, enjoy the beach, the little shops, then get back in the car and fly home. The vehicle had a wierd little turbine / tube fan system for flight mode. I was young, but the dream is still very much alive...


Incredible how some people can only relate 'flying car pilots' to drunks and 16 year old girls who cant drive. I dont get it. But I am greatful that I dont.

[Lionheart]

I did a little freeware flying car a few years ago. This isnt the one from highschool that I did. Dubbed the 'Disco Vollante', Italian for Flying Saucer. This has a 3 rotor wankle behind the pilot with belt drives going to two ducted fans housed on each side of the engine. Slots in the front direct air through the venturi two stage fan chambers, then out over the exhaust slot that runs air over the top of the elevator flap in the rear. Turning was via spoiler flaps on the top sides, and small popout fins in the back sides similar to the V-175 Flying Flapjack. The popouts were only needed on slow flight modes, like taking off and landing.


Bill

http://www.lionheartcreations.com/sitebuilder/images/Disco55-998x744.jpg

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[Chacha]

Let's talk about Fuz-O by Honda,
The terrafugia,
Space X Falcon 9,
Jetman Jetwing,
Skybike,
Pal-V One, (this one is old! 1920's)
X Hawk,
LaBiche Aerospace FSC-1,
Moller Skycar,
Air Car,

..... and more.... and more... and

[Chacha]

WOW!

[Dain Arns]

I always enjoyed your Wasp for FS9 as a personal commuter, Bill. :wavey:

http://www.lionheartcreations.com/Wasp_Page3.html

[jhefner]

I've never really figured out why this should be so, but flying cars are really bad cars, and also really bad aircraft.
Same with floating cars.

You would get the worst of both worlds:

No more changing your oil at Wal-Mart. I assume the engine has to be maintained like any other areo engine, including regular inspections.
A car with a low c.g. and moderate weight handles best; propeller planes usually need clearance for the propeller, and are built lighter than you would build cars (at least until recently)
They result in awkward looking cars with protrubances sticking out, and/or airplanes with less than ideal shapes when it comes to drag.
Crash protection and emmission standards, and visibility all around while in car mode will have to be intergrated into the standards needed when in plane mode. The result will be a heavier flying car.
-James

[Ken Stallings]

It's got Piglet written all over it! :ernae::jump:

Caz

I had that exact thought in mind when I created this thread! :engel016:

Ken

[Bjoern]

It was mostly aimed at the 16 year old girls... They can't even drive a car. I don't want to imagine what it'd be like if they flew a carplane. :173go1:


<Aussie> I was listening to some girls talking in a video store.
<Aussie> And one of them was saying that she had failed her learners permit because she had used both hands to change gears.
http://bash.org/?921395

:d

[MenendezDiego]

These flying cars are potentially going to be built at my school. Pretty excited!

[Chacha]

These flying cars are potentially going to be built at my school. Pretty excited!


WOW!

Keep us posted!

:ernae:

[alain95]

this was the Jules VEDRINES dream, a WWI veteran, he thought that soon all buildings will have landing roofs, and to proove it, he landed on the GALERIES LAFAYETTE Shops ! :medals:

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