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Sid2008
April 7th, 2010, 05:49
Hi, I am wondering if I can use Air Wrench to make sure that the aircraft that I am developing is properly seated to the ground when it is parked. Has anyone done this before? Just curious.
Sid

OBIO
April 7th, 2010, 07:22
Sid

Air Wrench has a tab for inputting your contact point information, which includes static height and static pitch. It is not a visual thing...just numbers...so you will have to do some trial and error testing. Input some contact points, check them in the sim, go back into Air Wrench to adjust them, check them in the sim, back and forth until you have it right.

OBIO

Hurricane91
April 7th, 2010, 08:05
You can add lights to the individual contact coordinates. This provides a visual in the sim for where the contact point is located.

Z-claudius24
April 7th, 2010, 10:43
Hi,

For contact points and some other things I use Aircraft Container Manager.
It's all visual and so it's easy and reduce the try and trials :jump:

Wing_Z
April 7th, 2010, 11:35
Hi,

For contact points and some other things I use Aircraft Container Manager.
It's all visual and so it's easy and reduce the try and trials :jump:

IS that still available somewhere?

Willy
April 7th, 2010, 12:12
From what I've heard ACM is pretty much a dead program. It's a shame as those that have it, swear by it.

PutPut
April 7th, 2010, 14:16
There was a link recently (I've lost it) where you could still download ACM, problem was there was no key to make it operate. It was a University Archive of some kind.

Paul

fliger747
April 7th, 2010, 14:36
ACM is indeed a great program, but is not available any longer. Some people have used an expedient of co locating temporary lights at the contact points to get a visual representation of their position.

However it is stiull necwessary to get the correct static compression and compression ratio. MiltoShupe recently gave a dissertation on this in a recent post in another thread.

Cheers: T

hairyspin
April 9th, 2010, 12:00
There used to be an excellent article on contact points and using lights to check them in FS9 - Contact Points 101 for Compleat Idiots. However, it seems to have been lost in the move to the new server, or it's buried somewhere in the archive and hard to find. If anyone still has that article or knows where it has gone, it would be good to have it available again.

Z-claudius24
April 9th, 2010, 12:24
Hi,

There .. but seem's the pics are lost !

http://web.archive.org/web/20080519004436/http://www.sim-outhouse.com/index.php?loc=articles&page=cp


article by -E

Who is it ? :)

hairyspin
April 9th, 2010, 12:31
ACM is indeed a great program, but is not available any longer. Some people have used an expedient of co locating temporary lights at the contact points to get a visual representation of their position.

However it is stiull necessary to get the correct static compression and compression ratio. Milton Shupe recently gave a dissertation on this in a recent post in another thread.

Cheers: T

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2449/contactst201.jpg

Would it be fair to say that lights at the contact point positions would give an accurate fix, if the aircraft is in the air? No worries about compression, the gear should be fully extended then.

A modeller has all the advantages FSDS or Gmax can give: the fun starts when an existing model has an inaccurate set of contact points and the source file is not available.

Unless you have ACM. Then it's a doddle...




Milton's post is here:- http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?t=944 (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?t=944)

hawkeye52
April 9th, 2010, 15:29
Is Aircraft Container System another name for ACM?

- H52

Tom Clayton
April 9th, 2010, 15:49
Is Aircraft Container System another name for ACM?

- H52

Not that I'm aware of. The M stood for "Manager." Are you talking about a different program?

Z-claudius24
April 9th, 2010, 17:12
Hi,

Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004 Aircraft Container SDK


The Aircraft Container system organizes Flight Simulator 2004 aircraft files and attributes so that most aircraft-related files are located close together. This logical and consistent organization makes the files easy to customize.


This SDK describes the Aircraft Container system in detail, explaining how the different files work together. It provides information on how to modify and share components among existing aircraft. It does not explain how to create new aircraft.

hawkeye52
April 9th, 2010, 18:33
Claudius24 answered our mutual question. ACS & ACM are two different animals.

- H52

TARPSBird
April 9th, 2010, 22:57
Just wondering... Since Aircraft Container Manager has been in the category of "abandonedware" for going on five years or so, would there be any legal problem with uploading it with a key to activate it?

Astoroth
April 10th, 2010, 01:01
Yes, because even though the author has long since disappeared, he still retains the copyrights to the software. Such a shame that he disappeared without turning it over to someone to continue it, or releasing it for free, as I bought it a long time ago and it is my most valued "tweaking" tool.

hairyspin
April 10th, 2010, 04:58
Karl-Heinz has not exactly disappeared and is reportedly working on FSX-compatible versions of Aircraft Container Manager as well as Aircraft Airfile Manager. We live in hope.

http://forums.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthread.php?t=158880 (http://forums.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthread.php?t=158880)

Z-claudius24
April 10th, 2010, 10:44
Hi,

08-24-2009, 08:15 AM :mad:

srgalahad
April 10th, 2010, 17:01
Hi,

08-24-2009, 08:15 AM :mad:

Sorry about the lack of instant gratification ....
Rome wasn't built in a day; it was 400+ years between Leonardo da Vinci and the Wright brothers; and 10 years between FS5 and FS9 ... what's a few months?

Z-claudius24
April 10th, 2010, 18:18
Hi,


what's a few months? Few (7) months of silence .. is deafening http://www.getsmile.com/emoticons/smileys-91853/r/winknudge.gif

hairyspin
April 11th, 2010, 10:20
Hi,

Few (7) months of silence .. is deafening http://www.getsmile.com/emoticons/smileys-91853/r/winknudge.gif

Dear me, we are impatient! :icon_lol: Programs aren't coded in a day either! (or tested, debugged, made fit for release etc. And we're talking about coding for a MS product, too - ever read one of their SDKs ???)

Desert Rat
April 11th, 2010, 14:45
There was a link recently (I've lost it) where you could still download ACM, problem was there was no key to make it operate. It was a University Archive of some kind.

Paul

Here? (http://web.archive.org/web/20070701133311/www.aircraftmanager.com/index.php?cn=Download+Area)

as for the key, best of luck. But the demo version is still quite handy.

PHo17
April 12th, 2010, 06:35
Here? (http://web.archive.org/web/20070701133311/www.aircraftmanager.com/index.php?cn=Download+Area)

as for the key, best of luck. But the demo version is still quite handy.

I have some 2500 aircraft folders in FS2004 and I get an error message "List index out of bounds" with everyone of these programs. "640 kilobytes should be enough for everyone" :d

Pekka

dogknot
April 12th, 2010, 07:05
Yes, because even though the author has long since disappeared, he still retains the copyrights to the software. Such a shame that he disappeared without turning it over to someone to continue it, or releasing it for free, as I bought it a long time ago and it is my most valued "tweaking" tool.

Even though I understand the ownership, I too, think it is sort of wasteful...if ya know what I mean. Just the way I was raised and continue to live. I think it was/is too bad that a key wasn't provided on an abandoned endeavor. Oh well.