TR Havoc I Night Fighter and DB-7 now at Simviation

[tonybones2112]

I guess many of you already have seen it, I've not been able to get to the forum for 24 hours. New Havoc I at:

http://www.simviation.com/simviation/?type=item&ID=301&page=14

Enjoy!

Bones

[Rami]

Actually, that's either a Boston Mk. II or Mk. III...because it has the R-2600 Cyclones.

[Shessi]

You spotter Rami!!! .......:d







....but right!

Cheers Shessi

[peperez]

...this is the Havoc NF.MkIIa. The version with 20mm is the NF.MkIIb.

[oldwheat]

"Rivet counters' !! There is going to be a French DB-7 shortly ( No doubt also with the wrong engines :icon_lol:)

As penance for the smart a** crack, I undertook the massive (5 minute) effort to change the 01 .bmp to show a P&W engine. I'll upload it ASAP.

[Skipsan]

I may have an airfile for this one. But it well be a couple of weeks befor I can get to it. On vacation at South Padre Island Tx. It's ah-long an cold way from Wi "thank you very much" TR realy does outstanding work, reaky good stuff :jump:

Skipsan:kilroy:

[tonybones2112]

Actually, that's either a Boston Mk. II or Mk. III...because it has the R-2600 Cyclones.


Gettin' there buddy, I'm a tank man myself, not researched the A-20 variations. I retired my 1%/Alpha A-20 and P-70 to the Hanger, I take this new one and the P-70B out. I'm sure the Havoc I is on it's way.

Bones

[Nole]

Tango_Romeo's new TR_Boston is available for download at SimV's NEW CFS2 Section. Comes with two skins....l'Armee de l'Air, 2nd Escadrille, DB-7 and RAF 23 Squadron Night Intruder Boston: http://www.simviation.com/simviation/?type=item&ID=301&page=14 See thread: http://205.252.250.26/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1265834609

[Nole]

That's two more nice birds from TR, as the TR_Boston became available this afternoon.

[Rami]

Nole,

Thanks for the heads-up! After examining the airfile, it still used Wright Cyclones, so I used that airfile as a basis to create a 1940-era "first batch" DB-7 which had 1,050 / 1,100 horsepower Pratt & Whitney R-1830 radials. Her top speed was about 300mph, and she weighed a little more than one-third less of the later models, topping out at a little over 11,000 pounds.

http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_douglas_DB-7_France.html

The airfile I tweaked still climbs a bit fast, but her top speed is very close to specs.

[tonybones2112]

I'm sure all the CFS2 community benefits, but the last week or so has been pretty good to you and me Rami, we got our Boston/Havoc/P-70s. I got another very nice gift yesterday I'm gonna post about in the main forum. TR, Oldwhest, Sopwith, Bismark and all the rest who contributed to these and the other new planes, we salute you all.

Bones The Night Flyer

[Nole]

I suppose all the chatter about this engine and that engine is for the purists, but I look at it this way: it really makes no difference in performance. First batch weighed 11,000 lbs and had 1,100 hp engines. All the rest weighed in at around 15,000 lbs and had 1,500 hp engines. The added HP was pretty much offset by the added empty weight of the aircraft, which is why the bigger engines were added to start with. All were pretty hot little planes.

[Rami]

Nole,

It's not a question of performance, it's a question of historical accuracy. If I were to use the DB-7 in a campaign during 1940, (something I plan on doing this summer...more on this later) I would want to have the version used by the French that they would have had when the fighting was going on during May and June of 1940.

It's the same reason why I wouldn't use a Boeing B-17G in 1939, or a Fairey Battle in 1945.

[jim001]

Will these aircraft be available for download anywhere else, my current DSL server will not allow me to download from the Simviation website, don't know why.

[Nole]

Will these aircraft be available for download anywhere else, my current DSL server will not allow me to download from the Simviation website, don't know why.

If all else fails, contact Tango_Romeo on the SimV CFS2 Forum. He will probably send you the files you need via email. He's not hard to reach and helped me with a couple of problems: http://205.252.250.26/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?board=cfs2

[Nole]

Nole,

The airfile I tweaked still climbs a bit fast, but her top speed is very close to specs.

It's the default initial elevator trim setting that causes that. Just drop it a few notches as needed.