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OBIO
January 20th, 2010, 23:02
My wife's dear aunt L, a truly fun lady to be around, should be banned from ever touching a computer again. I have been to her house several times these last few months getting her system cleaned of viruses and trojans and stuff. I get it clean, she does stupid stuff, and two weeks later she calls again. Well, around 8:30 yesterday evening, the phone rang and it was aunt L......."Tim, I can't do anything with my computer. I was on the phone with my son, and this box kept popping up and I hit okay and now there is nothing on my screen. I thought it was my anti-virus...it looked like my anti-virus....it was the same color as my anti-virus....but now all my things are gone and my mouse won't move." I had just cut my hair and was about to hit the shower...so I tell her that I will be over in a half hour to an hour and will take a look at it. I get there, and just as she says all her things (Icons) are gone...nothing on the screen but her wall paper. The mouse pointer is smack dab in the middle of the screen...and it won't move. I hit CTRL ALT DELETE and up pops a message telling me that Task Manager has been disable by the Administrator. I hit the power button and power down the system. Fire up a cigarette, hit the power button and try to go into Safe Mode. Can't even get in to Safe Mode. Tried several times...no entry via Safe Mode.

I look at aunt L and tell her...."You've done it this time ya old bat...you finally killed the poor thing." She looks at me with a look of pure panic....and before she can go off the deep end...I tell her that I will fix it but that it will involve bringing her computer home and spending several hours formatting the hard drive, reinstalling Windows, updating it fully, installing a anti-virus system. She asks how much I want for doing all that...I tell her 895 million dollars, which is the going price for that sort of thing.

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Now aunt L says that she uses her computer to play some games (not online games, just on her system), read the local newspaper on line, and read world news on Yahoo....and that's it. I have had to fight some pretty nasty bugs off her system...really nasty bugs....bugs that I don't believe that she has picked up reading Yahoo news or the local paper on line. I think dear 70 year old aunt L is going to some pretty nasty sites and looking at some pretty nasty stuff..cause that is were most of these really nasty bugs come from....or so I've been told.

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OBIO

Wulf190
January 20th, 2010, 23:25
This time install firefox with no script. Configure it for private browsing so it won't save any internet files. That will do afew things. First no-script disables any scrips on a website from running, unless you allow it to. (so no pops up which lead to baddy bugs).

And from what your describing your aunt won't figure out how to enable it.


But Then again I'd recommend pouring some water 'accidentally like' on the mobo and frying it. If she cane manage to mess up a PC that bad and doesn't want to learn how to fix it or pay the piper by replacing it then she can just as well not have it!

Chacha
January 20th, 2010, 23:33
My PC got infected with such a nasty virus...

The only ones that uses it was me and my daughter...

I am pretty sure she doesn't surf the nasty sites ...

It has a Parental Guidance on it...

She surfs through Disney Websites, Nickolodeon and other kids site...

And yet we got the virus from those sites...

How? I do not have a clue...

She is 8 and I check all her activities online...

:monkies:

OBIO
January 21st, 2010, 00:24
Oh, she'll have Foxfire with No Script for sure.

Part of the problem is that I am pretty sure there was something down deep..something that I had not been able to totally kill. When I installed Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware, as soon as I installed it, the exe file would vanish...Poof, gone. I installed nearly a dozen times and every time the exe would simply vanish. It took about 8 hours to get AVG to install on her system....something kept killing the install process.

I told her last time that the next time something comes up, it would probably be a good idea to simply wipe the HD and do a rebuild...that way we would know for sure that the system was clean.

That still doesn't clear aunt L from my suspisions that she is looking at nasty things on nasty sites...she is an ornery gal, a real fire cracker. Just because she is 70 doesn't mean she is a sweet old lady...not her...she is a wild one...heck as recently as 3 years ago she was known for rolling those funny left hand cigarettes...the ones that are illegal.

OBIO

harleyman
January 21st, 2010, 01:08
My PC got infected with such a nasty virus...

The only ones that uses it was me and my daughter...

I am pretty sure she doesn't surf the nasty sites ...

It has a Parental Guidance on it...

She surfs through Disney Websites, Nickolodeon and other kids site...

And yet we got the virus from those sites...

How? I do not have a clue...

She is 8 and I check all her activities online...

:monkies:




Chacha...Those sites you just mentioned, along with myspace and facebook are some of the most evil places to get a trojan downloader ....


They are spiders that just crawl the internet at will, stopping in at busy sites , and doing their damage and moving on..That is why they are next to impossible to track and kill..They are mobile..Come in, damage, and move on....

harleyman
January 21st, 2010, 01:10
You could have tried a windows repair from boot...If she has the OEM disk...I also use any version of the same OEM to boot a dead computer for repairs.

but a format is still the best way to clean it all up..










Oh, she'll have Foxfire with No Script for sure.

Part of the problem is that I am pretty sure there was something down deep..something that I had not been able to totally kill. When I installed Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware, as soon as I installed it, the exe file would vanish...Poof, gone. I installed nearly a dozen times and every time the exe would simply vanish. It took about 8 hours to get AVG to install on her system....something kept killing the install process.

I told her last time that the next time something comes up, it would probably be a good idea to simply wipe the HD and do a rebuild...that way we would know for sure that the system was clean.

That still doesn't clear aunt L from my suspisions that she is looking at nasty things on nasty sites...she is an ornery gal, a real fire cracker. Just because she is 70 doesn't mean she is a sweet old lady...not her...she is a wild one...heck as recently as 3 years ago she was known for rolling those funny left hand cigarettes...the ones that are illegal.

OBIO

kilo delta
January 21st, 2010, 05:41
Once you've carried out a re-install make an image (ghost) of her system. It'll make future installs much easier.


PS. 70 and surfing pr0n? LMAO!

Good on her. :bump:

cheezyflier
January 21st, 2010, 05:48
now all my things are gone and my mouse won't move."


quote of the day, right there! :icon_lol::applause:

Kofschip
January 21st, 2010, 09:51
Once you've carried out a re-install make an image (ghost) of her system. It'll make future installs much easier.


PS. 70 and surfing pr0n? LMAO!

Good on her. :bump:

Kilo delta, you young whippersnapper, don't judge the Old Ones too harshly, it is due to their shenanigans that you exist......:bump::bump:-- Another 70 year old one....:icon_lol:

I just couldn't resist responding to this one.

Tako_Kichi
January 21st, 2010, 10:25
....it is due to their shenanigans that you exist......
Really?!

My parents always put my existence down to shoddy quality control at the London Rubber Co.! :isadizzy:

True story! :icon_lol:

kilo delta
January 21st, 2010, 10:57
Kilo delta, you young whippersnapper, don't judge the Old Ones too harshly, it is due to their shenanigans that you exist......:bump::bump:-- Another 70 year old one....:icon_lol:

I just couldn't resist responding to this one.

:icon_lol: :applause:

Don't get me wrong...I'm not knocking her (**that sounds sooo wrong ..doesn't it!!?**). I admire her in fact. When I hit 70 I'll probably be living on a diet of Viagra and Complan !:icon_lol::icon29:

java2srv
January 21st, 2010, 14:23
OBIO, et al.

You ought to look into this -> "Sandboxie"

www.sandboxie.com (http://www.sandboxie.com)

"Sandboxie runs your programs in an isolated space which prevents them from making permanent changes to other programs and data in your computer. "


Also www.pdfmyurl.com (http://www.pdfmyurl.com) -- will convert a web page to a PDF document --so if you really need to take a look at a web page or at a URL in an email you don't actually have to go the web page in question.


We use both at work and they are generally pretty good tools. Sandboxie in particular seems to have your Aunt's name written all over it.

+1

quote of the day, right there!

:wavey: